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September 06, 2014, 07:48:47 AM
The exchanges must be uncredible profitable. They must be milionars $. Anyway, other thing is this so much has to do with the profitability of the exchanges but rather the amount of coins stored on these types of exchanges. Lot of people like to trade altcoins in a "day trading" fashion and as a result keep their coins on the exchanges. This results there being more coins on the exchange then there really should be.

They have low margins, high costs, they can be hacked; who knows how many bitcoins they have and how many exchanges would survive if all customers were withdrawing all their coins
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August 29, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: KuromaYoichi
they make a lot of money from the fees
but idk how much money is needed for running their service
Not much really, they need infrastructure to handle the website and trades plus maybe a few staff to handle support. Not much overhead and almost guaranteed profits.


But now need to work on security also few new exchanges have this problem hacked very easily and lost all money
I would say that security is likely a major expense for exchanges. The fact that they hold so much money on behalf of their customers likely makes them a big target for hackers.
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August 25, 2014, 09:50:23 PM
Quote from: KuromaYoichi
they make a lot of money from the fees
but idk how much money is needed for running their service
Not much really, they need infrastructure to handle the website and trades plus maybe a few staff to handle support. Not much overhead and almost guaranteed profits.


of course may need money to build the system and its security, but it is only the beginning,
and a little to the cost of maintanance and their employees,
but the profit is huge because transactions take place every day, every hour, even every minute, the profits will be greater if the exchanger was popular and had a lot of user.  Shocked
The more popular the exchange is, the more demand for tasks that an exchange's employees will have. In other works the more volume that an exchange handles, the more staff it will need to hire. I also think the more popular exchanges also have a lot of smaller, less profitable accounts that I would think would have a fixed cost to setup.
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August 25, 2014, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: KuromaYoichi
they make a lot of money from the fees
but idk how much money is needed for running their service
Not much really, they need infrastructure to handle the website and trades plus maybe a few staff to handle support. Not much overhead and almost guaranteed profits.


But now need to work on security also few new exchanges have this problem hacked very easily and lost all money
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August 25, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
At the end the one who is gonna make the most of profit are the exchanges,they are the beast.
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August 25, 2014, 02:34:01 AM
Quote from: KuromaYoichi
they make a lot of money from the fees
but idk how much money is needed for running their service
Not much really, they need infrastructure to handle the website and trades plus maybe a few staff to handle support. Not much overhead and almost guaranteed profits.


of course may need money to build the system and its security, but it is only the beginning,
and a little to the cost of maintanance and their employees,
but the profit is huge because transactions take place every day, every hour, even every minute, the profits will be greater if the exchanger was popular and had a lot of user.  Shocked
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August 24, 2014, 10:44:07 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/26/bitcoin-bitstamp/

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Charging trading fees ranging from .5% to .2%, Bitstamp’s founders make clear in their steady, confident way that they are making bank. Their monthly revenue at current trading volume — which is lower than usual — is between $700,000 and $900,000 USD. “We’re not the richest people in Slovenia, but we may be the richest 20-year-olds,” says Merlak.

Kind of make me wonder why there are so few exchanges spring up to compete with them if the profit is so high.

If some 20-year-olds kids can do it, surely some experience people will be able to do it too.
Good question.

Actually there are many small exchanges that are not listed on the popular charts (and many more that have folded). 

One barrier is that it takes a lot of investment, programming, and paperwork to set up an exchange with the quality and features that clients now expect.  This initial expense doe snot depend on how much volume the exchange has.  So a new exchange starts out in the red and remains so for months.

Exchanges serving the same market compete on the basis of features, quality, fees, client service, etc.  Larger exchanges can afford more staff so they can improve faster.

Finally, given a  choice between a small and a large exchange, clients will prefer the larger one, since it has more liquidity.  That is, a largish buy or sell will get a better price on the larger exchange, even if the market price starts out the same on on both.  Thus the larger exchange will tend to grow, while the smaller one will shrink.
I think the lack of these reasons in bitcoin's early days is the reason why MtGox was able to survive and thrive for as long as it did. For many years it did not have any real competition, however lacked most features that are assumed to be at today's exchanges.
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August 24, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
Its so profitable that new exchangers that are starting from scratch are popping out
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August 23, 2014, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: KuromaYoichi
they make a lot of money from the fees
but idk how much money is needed for running their service
Not much really, they need infrastructure to handle the website and trades plus maybe a few staff to handle support. Not much overhead and almost guaranteed profits.

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August 23, 2014, 05:02:14 PM
The earnings grow along with trading volumes, it's really difficult to start an exchange from scratch.
Absolutely right we watch few exchanges starts few days back and gone very quickly because managing them is not easy job
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August 23, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
The earnings grow along with trading volumes, it's really difficult to start an exchange from scratch.
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August 23, 2014, 04:15:44 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/26/bitcoin-bitstamp/

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Charging trading fees ranging from .5% to .2%, Bitstamp’s founders make clear in their steady, confident way that they are making bank. Their monthly revenue at current trading volume — which is lower than usual — is between $700,000 and $900,000 USD. “We’re not the richest people in Slovenia, but we may be the richest 20-year-olds,” says Merlak.

Kind of make me wonder why there are so few exchanges spring up to compete with them if the profit is so high.

If some 20-year-olds kids can do it, surely some experience people will be able to do it too.
You need to have a lot of technical skills and a lot of time to setup an exchange. You also need to be somewhat reputable (or enter the market early enough so this is not necessary). I don't think that many people would trust an exchange that no one has heard of with their money. 
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August 23, 2014, 03:42:43 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/26/bitcoin-bitstamp/

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Charging trading fees ranging from .5% to .2%, Bitstamp’s founders make clear in their steady, confident way that they are making bank. Their monthly revenue at current trading volume — which is lower than usual — is between $700,000 and $900,000 USD. “We’re not the richest people in Slovenia, but we may be the richest 20-year-olds,” says Merlak.

Kind of make me wonder why there are so few exchanges spring up to compete with them if the profit is so high.

If some 20-year-olds kids can do it, surely some experience people will be able to do it too.
Good question.

Actually there are many small exchanges that are not listed on the popular charts (and many more that have folded). 

One barrier is that it takes a lot of investment, programming, and paperwork to set up an exchange with the quality and features that clients now expect.  This initial expense doe snot depend on how much volume the exchange has.  So a new exchange starts out in the red and remains so for months.

Exchanges serving the same market compete on the basis of features, quality, fees, client service, etc.  Larger exchanges can afford more staff so they can improve faster.

Finally, given a  choice between a small and a large exchange, clients will prefer the larger one, since it has more liquidity.  That is, a largish buy or sell will get a better price on the larger exchange, even if the market price starts out the same on on both.  Thus the larger exchange will tend to grow, while the smaller one will shrink.

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August 23, 2014, 02:49:02 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/26/bitcoin-bitstamp/

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Charging trading fees ranging from .5% to .2%, Bitstamp’s founders make clear in their steady, confident way that they are making bank. Their monthly revenue at current trading volume — which is lower than usual — is between $700,000 and $900,000 USD. “We’re not the richest people in Slovenia, but we may be the richest 20-year-olds,” says Merlak.

Kind of make me wonder why there are so few exchanges spring up to compete with them if the profit is so high.

If some 20-year-olds kids can do it, surely some experience people will be able to do it too.
sr. member
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August 23, 2014, 01:55:16 PM
To be profitable an exchange must have a very high volume of tradings, not all of them are making big profits.
Big exchanges making very good profit because they have too much volume and high fees
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August 23, 2014, 01:22:27 PM
To be profitable an exchange must have a very high volume of tradings, not all of them are making big profits.
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August 23, 2014, 11:12:05 AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/26/bitcoin-bitstamp/

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Charging trading fees ranging from .5% to .2%, Bitstamp’s founders make clear in their steady, confident way that they are making bank. Their monthly revenue at current trading volume — which is lower than usual — is between $700,000 and $900,000 USD. “We’re not the richest people in Slovenia, but we may be the richest 20-year-olds,” says Merlak.
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August 23, 2014, 10:32:41 AM
what about tax? it must be crazy for them to keeps every move, and they are forced to declare them
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August 23, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
They are so profitable with their fees, really really profitable, Cryptsy guy is now rich for life i think.
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August 23, 2014, 06:24:27 AM
If they are making gains without fees there is something fishy for sure. They are probably getting bribed by shitcoin devs and shitcoin holders to add the coins on their markets for instance.
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