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It is always a question if we can be tracked by simply clicking a link, or malware from a picture from a chat, like Telegram. For some chat, it is hard to know what attempt each scammer is trying.

Can a coder explain maybe?
How safe is it to download a picture, video, click link, when a stranger writes it to us in a normal chat?
In, for example, Telegram?
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How secure do you feels when unknown user chats you and immediately begins to demand of your country where your chatting from?

Nice one, even if she had the intention to scam you, you kept her busy in identifying the country and made her speak of her country first  Cheesy

Well, these unknown chats from telegram are common, as have joined many groups, people just get our contact from any group and try to message us for any help but in the end, the intention is always to scam. Asking for the country is necessary if the scam is intended for some particular region people or maybe they don't have any other way to start the conversation other than asking for the country  Huh
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I can't help being on my guard when I see such and the first action I take is to either query you thoroughly to get more info

Right from seing the content of the message or chats they are sending to you, you would have sensed if they are the type that has something good to discuss or was an attempt to spam you up or scam, especially when they are having no direction and being specific.

and if I see that is not happening, I simply ignore or block.

Best and perfect decision to take, some people deserve not giving an attention to because the more you gobe a listening ears the more they psych you further if care is not taken.

One used the pattern of working in my bank and needed some details from me, hoping to get the numbers behind my card, claiming my card had a fault that needed fixing. It was just my fault for entertaining the chat for too long though.

They have many ways and means they can come through, that is why we should be privacy and security consciouss in everything that we do.
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 I can't help being on my guard when I see such and the first action I take is to either query you thoroughly to get more info, and if I see that is not happening, I simply ignore or block. These days they are getting smarter by the minute and no longer make use of phishing links.
 One used the pattern of working in my bank and needed some details from me, hoping to get the numbers behind my card, claiming my card had a fault that needed fixing. It was just my fault for entertaining the chat for too long though.
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The spiritual way, could it be like hypnosis or Voodoo-like manta (LOL) or some words that will trap the victim because of some sweet promises given.
Do not get carried away by the sweet words spoken by scammers, unknown people, and even someone who is not related to anything in your life.

Bro is funny right? But is the real truth, voodoo or whatever you call it, it stands as one of the best way (If I should say) to get victims fall in less than 10mins, shit happens. Sweet words are included but that's not what they're after,  your trust is what they're after. The main thing is that if you don't feel like start or continuing the conversation is best to stop or block the user like you said, but keep your important details to yourself.

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I even often receive messages from unknown people when entering and commenting in a telegram group that many users have joined.
This is already an indication that they are scammers who are only eyeing your assets. It's easy enough to spot.

It is best not to respond to anything, just delete and block such users. If you respond to the chat and continue the conversation they will send phishing links or some applications that are already infected with malware, which will be dangerous.

The methods of scammers are evolving and new ones are emerging. Email messages, Twitter, and other social media are also full of spam from scammers.
Even Whatsapp messages are also targeted by scammers. It is necessary to be vigilant to anticipate things that are not wanted.

Those mentioned apps are really the best place to be careful of, in as much as we find a place to just do a legit business we shouldn't let our guards down.
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I can't and I don't believe that spiritual means can make me fall, being vigilant and careful doesn't mean you have to chase some chats that are unknown to you. Sometimes it your spirit says you should stop the conversation is best you do so, in this spiritual means of scamming people is just that we don't listen to our mind, is like we get carried away by those sweet words.
The spiritual way, could it be like hypnosis or Voodoo-like manta (LOL) or some words that will trap the victim because of some sweet promises given.
Do not get carried away by the sweet words spoken by scammers, unknown people, and even someone who is not related to anything in your life.

I even often receive messages from unknown people when entering and commenting in a telegram group that many users have joined.
This is already an indication that they are scammers who are only eyeing your assets. It's easy enough to spot.

It is best not to respond to anything, just delete and block such users. If you respond to the chat and continue the conversation they will send phishing links or some applications that are already infected with malware, which will be dangerous.

The methods of scammers are evolving and new ones are emerging. Email messages, Twitter, and other social media are also full of spam from scammers.
Even Whatsapp messages are also targeted by scammers. It is necessary to be vigilant to anticipate things that are not wanted.
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How secure do you feels when unknown user chats you and immediately begins to demand of your country where your chatting from?
What do you think could be their reason for chatting you up and instantly demanding your country of residence, does this makes any sense and how do you cope with such question or do you feels that such user has an evils motives towards you to either scam you or harm.
I saw this kind of message in my telegram few days ago. When I asked about her, she tried to find out about me. Where do I live or what  I do etc. by asking various questions. Then I understood she was trying to collect information from me.
There was a similarity in the profile where beautiful girl picture was shown. In my conversation though the picture was not same but the approach was much similar. I realized that she was trying to steal my information or for some other nefarious purpose. I immediately blocked the user.
sr. member
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Sometimes whenever a chat comes up I just feel like getting to know the user immediately because it might be someone who meant well or probably someone who wants to get something from you, could be a vital information or could be a scammer as the case maybe.
To me I'd let the chat flow and I might even play to the tune of the unknown user, but giving out information from my end won't be possible until the intention of the user has been stated and one needs to be careful. I feel anxious sometimes when an unknown message pops up from someone I don't know even here in this forum.
I don't know if you have encounter scammers before, when you give a scammer attention it will totally change your mindset for investment plan, and if its the kind of investment you're anticipating to have or join it will be very easier for you to be victim or scam, because scammers has almost ten different strategies or numerous dimensions of applications to scam people through their communications, do you know that some can influence you with spiritual manipulation since you have already established communications and you are responding positively from the day it chatted, so we to be vigilant and take proper precautions concerning people slide on your DM for investment, when you notice that the user chatting you is unknown to know and the content of his discussion is not what you are expecting or thinking, you have every right to blacklist the user before you will be convinced to abide with the its agenda or policy.

I have encountered scammers in several occasions but that doesn't mean I won't get to know if the person has a genuine reason for sliding into my DM. No doubt that scammers have different ways of getting into the head on their victims but it only takes a stronger person to get to another, I can't and I don't believe that spiritual means can make me fall, being vigilant and careful doesn't mean you have to chase some chats that are unknown to you. Sometimes it your spirit says you should stop the conversation is best you do so, in this spiritual means of scamming people is just that we don't listen to our mind, is like we get carried away by those sweet words.
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on telegram, i'm quite active there and join a lot of crypto communities and the like but when a new person i don't know sends a chat to me, i will ignore the person because i know that I don't have business with them.

The abuse on telegram in particular is getting out of hands this days, just because they think they can invite someone into joining a group with their username without first receiving permission from them, now the function has to be enabled before anyone can add you to any group on telegram, also so.e groups have made the restriction on the participants from posting than the admin alone, this is also to reduce all manner of abuse that might comes in through such access.

Apart from that, i also never ask for help from somebody on Telegram when I have trouble on an exchange or gambling site because usually there will be lots of people who admit as an admin who starts chatting with me and offers help.

If one is not looking for free things out of thin air, he would not give out the little chance they seek to get ones attention through their PMs. greediness is what lead some people to get scammed, you want to harvest from where you never planted at, how possible?
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on telegram, i'm quite active there and join a lot of crypto communities and the like but when a new person i don't know sends a chat to me, i will ignore the person because i know that I don't have business with them.   

Apart from that, i also never ask for help from somebody on Telegram when I have trouble on an exchange or gambling site because usually there will be lots of people who admit as an admin who starts chatting with me and offers help.
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Simply just ignore it. If you are a Telegram user, then there are definitely many users who have sent you such messages. Try not to see their messages as much as possible because all the words of such people are unreadable and if you talk to them for a long time, you may unknowingly have them.

When I don't a user or have anything in common to do with them, which means how they got me on board is through a phishy means and that enough is a good point to use or hold against them by just ignoring them, there are situations that could warrant us not to chat, read or respond to some inbox we received because they are full of tricky ways to get us under their attack, in such situations, we should flee away from them.
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Caps lock, sir sir, using fake profile, and no point discussion, do you really think it's a good reason to believe the user is legit?
LOL.  Assuming I even used a chat app like OP did, if I'd gotten a message like that not only would I have immediately blocked the user, but it wouldn't have crossed my mind to create a thread on bitcointalk about it.  Not sure if this is a merit-grab attempt or what, but if people have common sense (and it's questionable whether that's true) they'd realize an unsolicited message with the tone and content shown in the example here is either some idiot with too much time on their hands at best OR an obvious attempt at sucker-baiting for a scam at worst.

I know nobody would admit this on a public discussion forum, but have any of you actually fallen prey to messages like this one?  And by that I mean getting scammed because of receiving one.  My guess?  Probably not.
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It is almost always a question of the intention of fraud. The conversation usually starts with a short introduction, an inquiry about personal life and, if possible, giving a certain dose of empathy. It's actually a psychological game and it's trying to gain some kind of trust.
Everything is actually preparation for what follows, proposing a very profitable investment, business or whatever. Because you will more easily accept and believe in advice from someone you already know in some way. if you are a little more inert, it will be harder for you to tell him to screw up, and he will use that to pressure you to give in and believe his proposals.

The points raised about fraud and manipulation tactics are accurate. Remain cautious when strangers approach you with lucrative offers, as they often have ulterior motives. Use blocking features to protect yourself from online harassment. Stay vigilant and prioritize your safety.
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If you don't have any ongoing or existing plans of investment and unknown user on your DM is emphasising on investment and gives he/her investment tablets plans, which you know quite well that you have not negotiate or had any investment discussion with anyone, I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped

Valid solution but not with me though, I love to mess with scammers, I give them hopes of thinking they have gotten me then all of a sudden I stop responding just to watch how frustrated they'll become. I don't get easily excited about an investment opportunity so whenever I get this kind of message I play along. If you're just a regular users on the internet that have join one or more crypto groups then be rest assured whenever you get this kinds of message, they're scammers trying to steal from you and got your details from those groups you joined.

How secure do you feels when unknown user chats you and immediately begins to demand of your country where your chatting from?
What do you think could be their reason for chatting you up and instantly demanding your country of residence, does this makes any sense and how do you cope with such question or do you feels that such user has an evils motives towards you to either scam you or harm.
What are likelihood of this user not wanting to scam me because of his or her questions.

Depends on the line of business you're into, not everybody knows how to start a conversation. I have done businesses with people that if I considered how they reached out to me initially, I would probably won't have done the business with them but in your case, this is obviously a scam attempt, the user mightn't come from the country that he/she is claiming. But if you're a business man likes myself, never judge a book by its cover although if you're not into any business that'll require you to be contacted by unknown numbers then consider evey message you get a scam attempt and approach with precautions.
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Sometimes whenever a chat comes up I just feel like getting to know the user immediately because it might be someone who meant well or probably someone who wants to get something from you, could be a vital information or could be a scammer as the case maybe.
To me I'd let the chat flow and I might even play to the tune of the unknown user, but giving out information from my end won't be possible until the intention of the user has been stated and one needs to be careful. I feel anxious sometimes when an unknown message pops up from someone I don't know even here in this forum.
I don't know if you have encounter scammers before, when you give a scammer attention it will totally change your mindset for investment plan, and if its the kind of investment you're anticipating to have or join it will be very easier for you to be victim or scam, because scammers has almost ten different strategies or numerous dimensions of applications to scam people through their communications, do you know that some can influence you with spiritual manipulation since you have already established communications and you are responding positively from the day it chatted, so we to be vigilant and take proper precautions concerning people slide on your DM for investment, when you notice that the user chatting you is unknown to know and the content of his discussion is not what you are expecting or thinking, you have every right to blacklist the user before you will be convinced to abide with the its agenda or policy.
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However, there are genuine people online, but you must have to be with them for so many time in order to develop that trust and whatever you do online should be a teamwork and not expressely financial deals that will rely on one person to be delivered

Even here, I would be too pessimistic. You can call me a sociopath, but the people on the internet are not the people we meet offline. It all depends on the size of the victim. Scammers can seem like decent people for a very long time, and you can even do some business with them, but one day, something unforeseen will happen when a decent person turns into a very professional scammer.
Therefore, all other people's letters and other people's proposals that come from strangers must either be filtered with a magnifying glass or completely ignored.

Yea, we have seen the method of exit scam so many times and you are correct about it. They may decide to be patient with you and even to the extent of becoming your online friend. They may decide to sacrifice one or two resources to enable them balance well for their exit scam.
A stranger is a stranger no matter how close they may try to be.

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I would even go so far as to say that chatting via telegram and accidentally clicking on links can lead to the full disclosure of your identity, and further problems can be expected as a result.

I feel so much exposed while on telegram and that's why I deactivated my account and I no longer get forum mentions notification.
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Simply just ignore it. If you are a Telegram user, then there are definitely many users who have sent you such messages. Try not to see their messages as much as possible because all the words of such people are unreadable and if you talk to them for a long time, you may unknowingly have them. You can also share personal information. 
I don't feel any need to talk to such people as you don't know him or have any idea about him. If such hot people have messaged you it would be better for you to block or ignore the account.
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If you are going to get into someone's inbox and the first thing you do is not talk about yourself by introducing yourself but ask questions about the other person...total red flag and with me I ignore for a few minutes to hours then later on if you persist with more questions you are definitely meeting the ban hammer and report this privacy intrusion to telegram...No two ways about it!

And why do these fraudsters think using a beautiful  lady as the profile picture gets the conversation going Huh And why do they always think the person they are try to chat with is always male???
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I think its best time you blacklist the unknown user, because if you dare respond to them, it's very obvious that you have been trapped, because some greedy people like investment with huge profits. Sometimes ignoring some of the investment can at a point make you to be free from scammers.
Ignoring them is the best remedy, only the prudent make use of this. Those who salivate over mouthwatering investment are no different from those who scam them because they too are greedy. Otherwise, why would anyone think a random stranger they meet online can make them wealthy overnight because of the type of offer they make them if not that they throw caution to the wind once they hear it has a nice ROI.

It's not by deleting their contact that solves the whole issues with this kind of bug, one has to ignor them as you've said or permanently block them without replying to them, because the more we responds to them the more we become vulnerable to them and that's what they were always after, to seek in for the ome chance opportunity to read about us and get some information to help them channel their mode of attack.

We should also not serve them an avenue to find and locate us by any means of online engagements that we do, we must be very careful with online forms we fill, links we click, images we download and many more.
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I am fully secure in my view. I remember a person that chatted with me after I joined a telegram group, telling me that he is from Brazil and introduced me to meta trade or something. I laughed and start to take his time too. Where it landed is a lie from me to have a physical visit with me in my country. It ended as nothing, no scam success because I knew he was a scammer even before the start of our conversation. Nothing like online friends to me, they are all scammers and they have not disappointed me before not to be a good person.

Nice way to play along and get to bust the bubble of the intended scammer. I do such sometimes too when I have the time in my hands but if I don't have time I just tell an unknown chatter off.

I'm taking aback when a new and unknown chat greets my phone, it immediately gets my 6th sense activated to watch out for scam related discussions and like you rightly said, it usually ends up the expected way; leading to scam but I don't fall for such.


Recently I got busier and I just ignor strangers. I did not also join groups again and nothing like new stranger 's messaging.


This is surely a way that the unknown persons are avoided. When you reduce the rate of sign ups and joining online groups then we have already done half of the stress not to get involved with such people because in actual fact we are the architect of it, very limited number of people can get our contacts if we remain on our lane but by joining unsolicited services, telegram groups that are not required then we are opening arrays of unwanted chats.
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