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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 02:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

These people are experts, they can easily traced if you submitted fake account, so don't imperil your account by doing this thing, they know very well that faking KYC is very much rampant and people can buy information in the black market, sometimes they ask video verification and interview, here our local exchange ask for video calling so they verify your account in the near future this could be implemented.

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Quote from: sunsilk on October 11, 2019, 05:58:49 AM

It's a criminal offense and I think you should learn the laws that lies within that idea you have. You will sure be in a big trouble by doing that and why not just send your own identity if you want to pass on KYC?

Are you keeping identities of other people in your computer? you better get rid of them as soon as possible. To deal with no problems in the future, just send your own but if you are not willing, use a DEX or an exchange that doesn't require KYC that supports the deposit/withdrawal you want.

Funny how you ask if the OP is sitting with peoples KYC on their pc when that is exactly what the people that sk for it are doing. Ironic huh...

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 02:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

What are you hidding for? Just apply your real documents following your account bank. Those company have deal with you to all information or data costumers. Just take a read then reseach those company able to be trusted or not.
Then how possible you can made a fake document? if you do it, you could be face-to-face with laws then you will potentially deal with prison or pay fines.

Noone is hiding. Why do they ask? If we hiding why they asking?

Nonsense, no one will go to jail. The exchange will just have an excuse to shut your account down and keep your funds. Most of these exchanges don't use legit methods to obtain KYC. Some even do it themselves!! x_X

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Submiting fake documents - I never had such idea in my mind. If I feel not comfortable to pass KYC or I don't trust in particular website enough to give my personal data, I simply try to look for alternatives.
Submiting fake documents can give more harm than benefits. What if you will be caught? Closing of account and freezing of funds isn't the worst thing that could happen. Falsification of documents is serious crime and can even end up in jail. Do you really want that?

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Quote from: MFahad on October 12, 2019, 02:39:30 PM

You might escape with it on some sites but those who are good can re-check your identity. Ever heard of audit being done in companies ?
The same can be done in the crypto related sites too and if you are got caught, a legal action can be taken against you along with fine and if none of this is possible, even then the site has a valid excuse to eat up your money.

gee that is scary . i would have suggesting that before to others that wants to bypass kyc but after knowing that the consequences of being caught is too severe ,i think im not going to suggest it with anyone else . if they are asking for kyc its better if we will do it honestly as long as if your also agreing on thier rules and the risk that you can get . you can also reject them if you feel unsure if what are you going to enter . better safe than sorry

So basically you are left with two options, either to reject the kyc and leave the site Or do a proper legit kyc.
Doing the fake kyc may benefit in the short term as your identity remains hidden but it can be a pain in the ass type thing in the long run, can only bring you trouble.

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Quote from: MFahad on October 12, 2019, 02:39:30 PM

You might escape with it on some sites but those who are good can re-check your identity. Ever heard of audit being done in companies ?
The same can be done in the crypto related sites too and if you are got caught, a legal action can be taken against you along with fine and if none of this is possible, even then the site has a valid excuse to eat up your money.

gee that is scary . i would have suggesting that before to others that wants to bypass kyc but after knowing that the consequences of being caught is too severe ,i think im not going to suggest it with anyone else . if they are asking for kyc its better if we will do it honestly as long as if your also agreing on thier rules and the risk that you can get . you can also reject them if you feel unsure if what are you going to enter . better safe than sorry

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 02:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

You might escape with it on some sites but those who are good can re-check your identity. Ever heard of audit being done in companies ?
The same can be done in the crypto related sites too and if you are got caught, a legal action can be taken against you along with fine and if none of this is possible, even then the site has a valid excuse to eat up your money.

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 02:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

Lets suppose you got your fake documents submitted and it work and you got KYC approved.
Later you deposit some big money to their site and they recheck the KYC ad ask you to give some additional documents. Then you will be caught and all your funds will be lost. So better avoid Fake verification.

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 02:33:55 AM

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

I will not dare to submit fake documents while doings these kind of trades as i am not ready to face the consequence of getting your account blocked and your funds being frozen. I want privacy but that does not mean that i have to submit fake documents to purchase the coins, even if you provide fake documents and you are planning to wire the money from your account, then what is the point your privacy ends at that point Tongue

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Quote from: MMysterious on October 11, 2019, 02:44:35 AM

Many times it comes to my mind about submitting fake profiles but I realized that I should just submit my real documents because in the future you might have issues and is needed to resubmit your information documents again which is hard if you are submitting fake profiles. But as much as possible I am not into KYC unless super necessary.

If you want to buy bitcoin then maybe try peer to peer. Then you can send it to exchanges that have high limits even if no verification. In Binance, no verification or level 1 account withdrawal limit is 1 btc daily.

If you trust your exchange I recommend that you don't fake your KYC, I have an awful experience on my local exchange, I thought they are not going to last long so, I send my cousins credentials instead and after 4 years they send a notification that they all accounts on their platform needs to go through another KYC as mandated by our central bank, unfortunately, my cousin is in faraway province where there is no internet access, so if you trust your exchanger don't fake your KYC.

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This is what about pure decentralization and staying as KYC resistant. I guess this will be the only solution which may last for ever and viable for the people who value their privacy and other confidential things the most. Trading within us will be quite possible when we build a community for that purposes. It may look hard for today but with the help of social media and friends/colleagues/neighbors, it is going to be the only way in future for buying/selling crypto with all safety measurements.

Quote from: crairezx20 on October 12, 2019, 05:00:55 AM

I'm currently using my uncle's document without any problem if they require KYC again I contact my uncle again to pass the KYC again.

What is the difference from using your own? I mean your uncle may face tax or other things which are supposed to be you then what is the point of using your uncles's docs instead of yours. Your uncle is now residing in different country or a senior citizen who are not/less taxable (as per some countries)? (I am just asking for any new idea which may be helpful if I will be copying Wink

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Quote from: malevolent on October 11, 2019, 10:38:00 PM

Legacy banking institutions are usually laxer on KYC compared with some cryptocurrency services.

I think that's solely related to the fact that crypto exchanges want to keep their bank accounts functional, which explains why they are so paranoid. They are basically a slave of their banks and therefore very strict.

It wasn't all that long ago where Bitstamp randomly started asking their traders very weird questions about their finances---questions I remember my bank asked me too when I created a new bank account with them.

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I was planning to bypass KYC before in binance but I realize the risk can be happen when using fake documents there possibilities that when you deposit a big amount they will ask again for KYC a video recording while holding IDs if you can't send the KYC files as a proof your funds will be held and there is no refund.
So it's recommended to use original documents. In my experience, you can also use documents from a friend or family member. I'm currently using my uncle's document without any problem if they require KYC again I contact my uncle again to pass the KYC again.

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The thought of bypassing kyc have also crossed my mind on several occasions but for some reason I still find myself presenting my original data anytime am required to do kyc which am really getting tired of,
presenting a fake id is not a big deal but doing selfie with the presented fake id is where the problem lies, because am sure both the person's face and that of the id would have to match for you to pass kyc otherwise you will be rejected.
If not for the selfie part it will be easy to bypass by just presenting fake id.

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Quote from: malevolent on October 11, 2019, 10:38:00 PM

Quote from: timerland on October 11, 2019, 04:05:50 AM

They are pretty easy to catch out and if the service communicates with your bank

Bank secrecy laws should prevent that.

Quote from: harizen on October 11, 2019, 06:44:54 AM

I mean, isn't it usual that KYC is always associated with any money transactions much especially to fiat transactions involving banks?

Legacy banking institutions are usually laxer on KYC compared with some cryptocurrency services.

Of course, it makes absolutely zero sense to try to pass fake info or dox if you want to send or withdraw fiat money to your bank account registered in your name.

Indeed, the exchanger will allow deposit and withdrawing if your KYC profile and bank account registered in the same name, there is no shortcut in this matter regarding fiat currencies due to AML policy. It's better to buy bitcoin from someone trusted here, there must be some people who willing to do that. But only with a trusted person.

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I suggest you use real documents so you don't have to get any trouble in the future. But I also suggest you find someone who can help you to transfer the funds into your account. So far, I always use my friend's service every time I want to transfer fiat into bitcoin or convert bitcoin to fiat. He has a good reputation in the bank so the bank will not suspicious of activity in send or receive the money. The bank will know if you give them a fake document so I don't think you can do that.

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Quote from: timerland on October 11, 2019, 04:05:50 AM

They are pretty easy to catch out and if the service communicates with your bank

Bank secrecy laws should prevent that.

Quote from: harizen on October 11, 2019, 06:44:54 AM

I mean, isn't it usual that KYC is always associated with any money transactions much especially to fiat transactions involving banks?

Legacy banking institutions are usually laxer on KYC compared with some cryptocurrency services.

Of course, it makes absolutely zero sense to try to pass fake info or dox if you want to send or withdraw fiat money to your bank account registered in your name.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on October 11, 2019, 07:02:08 PM

Quote from: Kyraishi on October 11, 2019, 05:43:29 PM

Yep. Nowadays there are basically 2 parts of ID verification that are pretty popular.

1. Just inputting your passport details and expiration date as well as your full name so the system can look you up, this will probably come back and say you made an error if you use fake identification.

2. Sending the photos of your ID, this will end poorly for you if you try and fake ID, it'll probably instantly close your account since their database is huge and it'll be obvious it's a fake ID.

Don't forget that they also required selfie while holding your ID so if you didn't meet the requirements you won't be able to exchange your crypto into fiat and you will just waste your time and crypto if they found you are trying to submit fake documents for KYC.

For me, if you want to exchange a large amount of crypto and withdraw them to your bank better use your real documents so that you have less risk of getting ban or suspended. Or look to other exchanges that don't require KYC verification.

Oh yeah. Your completely screwed if you fake that section of the test, ID verification software has been developed for years now and they have foolproofed it pretty well, don't risk jail time, trade in another site and just take 1-2 percent spreads.

Bitcoin ATMs are a good option. Not sure about how bad spreads are though.

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 02:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on October 11, 2019, 05:43:29 PM

Yep. Nowadays there are basically 2 parts of ID verification that are pretty popular.

1. Just inputting your passport details and expiration date as well as your full name so the system can look you up, this will probably come back and say you made an error if you use fake identification.

2. Sending the photos of your ID, this will end poorly for you if you try and fake ID, it'll probably instantly close your account since their database is huge and it'll be obvious it's a fake ID.

Don't forget that they also required selfie while holding your ID so if you didn't meet the requirements you won't be able to exchange your crypto into fiat and you will just waste your time and crypto if they found you are trying to submit fake documents for KYC.

For me, if you want to exchange a large amount of crypto and withdraw them to your bank better use your real documents so that you have less risk of getting ban or suspended. Or look to other exchanges that don't require KYC verification.

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on October 11, 2019, 08:18:38 AM

Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 02:33:55 AM

I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

I think you might be severely underestimating how advanced most techniques are that services such as netverify use to check whether a document is real.

Even if you get away with that, you are, correct me if i'm wrong, looking to use a fake ID on the exchange, but use your real bank account to send money to the exchange?
I'm not sure where you're from, but if it's anything like an IBAN or SEPA(?), they'll start asking questions real soon, maybe not for 50$, but for bigger amounts, you might very well get investigated -- not to mention,

you essentially linked (on purpose) your name (with your bank account!) to "an identity" (fake id) ...that is committing identity fraud.... You're not anonymous in any way, if anything: quite the opposite?

I don't think you've really though long and hard about this? Why go through all this trouble just to purposely commit identity fraud? They already know everything if they'd wanted to due to your wire transfer, (i assume)

This, ofcourse, is aside from the fact that it's just stupid to defraud an exchange for all the reasons listed above...

Yep. Nowadays there are basically 2 parts of ID verification that are pretty popular.

1. Just inputing your passport details and expiration date as well as your full name so the system can look you up, this will probably come back and say you made an error if you use fake identification.

2. Sending them photos of your ID, this will end poorly for you if you try and fake ID, it'll probably instantly close your account since their database is huge and it'll be obvious it's a fake ID.

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