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Quote from: harizen on October 11, 2019, 05:44:54 AM

Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

Don't involve yourself in any form of money transactions if you will just use fake documents. I mean, isn't it usual that KYC is always associated with any money transactions much especially to fiat transactions involving banks?

Not necessarily. There are services in Europe that allow you to buy/sell bitcoins without KYC using bank transfers. The landscape is obviously changing, though. Not so long ago, Localbitcoins and Paxful were the go-to places for trading without KYC, and before that you could use BTC-e.

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I have also been nursing the idea of using a fake Id for kyc too, only that I don't know how to get one yet plus lately I see some kyc demanding a selfie together with id and that days date, something tells me this method is as a result of the fake Id many people have been submitting, I hope you are able to bypass the the kyc process but I highly doubt it.

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

i never submit fake documents to crypto-related service because if i do this all my balance and account will be locked because of the fake documents

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There really isn't any way to bypass KYC in any service. They are doing extensive background checks on every info that people are submitting to ensure that no one is faking it, and no one will have the liberty to use their service into something malicious and illegal. You'll end up facing much more problems if they found out that you have submitted fake info and they could forward it to your local enforcement agencies. I suggest that you just undergo the normal KYC processing and get done with it, or use any other service that does not require one.

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use fake id only in claiming your bounty reward and not in exchange that holds your funds except you don't intend to leave funds in that account, otherwise it is not such a good idea even though kyc is a bit annoying, it is better to go through the process and make your purchase, you never know when something might go wrong and you will be force to use accurate id.

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Quote from: 1Referee on October 11, 2019, 07:39:51 AM

It's against any law and TOS of any company to submit fake info, regardless of how easy or tempting the whole process might appear to you.

In fact, I know someone who registered an account on Bittrex with false information, and that person got his account locked after Bittrex asked for additional information, which he obviously couldn't provide. Now he is out a few hundred bucks because of his stupid action. I told him it was a stupid idea and now he's at mercy of Bittrex to get his funds back, and to not file a police report of abuse.

I'm pretty sure that there are hundreds of more people who tried the same but were busted. Such a bad idea. Lips sealed

People would only realize if they faced up problems but on initial point where circumstances doesnt still happen they do force it up to fake everything.
Its good while it last but sooner or later they would really be checked or traced up and thats the time they do realize on the mistakes that they have done.
Sending fake documents is always been illegal or a violation neither on online services or on a typical physical ones.

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

Many exchanges are aware that people are submitting a fake profile, some of them are buying these fake credentials in the black market, or they hire con artist for a fake passport and driver license, so they ask people to take a selfie with them holding their passport or license with the date and the name of the exchange attach to the passport, Bitfoex is doing this now, to make sure that only legit people are using their platform.

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Quote from: 1Referee on October 11, 2019, 07:39:51 AM

It's against any law and TOS of any company to submit fake info, regardless of how easy or tempting the whole process might appear to you.

In fact, I know someone who registered an account on Bittrex with false information, and that person got his account locked after Bittrex asked for additional information, which he obviously couldn't provide. Now he is out a few hundred bucks because of his stupid action. I told him it was a stupid idea and now he's at mercy of Bittrex to get his funds back, and to not file a police report of abuse.

I'm pretty sure that there are hundreds of more people who tried the same but were busted. Such a bad idea. Lips sealed

That should be a lesson for anyone going to try to submit fake documents.
If he is just going to submit few coins that he can just forget if he is questioned to submit new documents then he can try try the risk. Its not going to be anyones problem but his.

I'm not from UK so I have n idea but is dsx.uk a good exchange to make transaction? If you can't trust the company, then don't trust to submit your KYC documents.

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It's against any law and TOS of any company to submit fake info, regardless of how easy or tempting the whole process might appear to you.

In fact, I know someone who registered an account on Bittrex with false information, and that person got his account locked after Bittrex asked for additional information, which he obviously couldn't provide. Now he is out a few hundred bucks because of his stupid action. I told him it was a stupid idea and now he's at mercy of Bittrex to get his funds back, and to not file a police report of abuse.

I'm pretty sure that there are hundreds of more people who tried the same but were busted. Such a bad idea. Lips sealed

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

I think you might be severely underestimating how advanced most techniques are that services such as netverify use to check whether a document is real.

Even if you get away with that, you are, correct me if i'm wrong, looking to use a fake ID on the exchange, but use your real bank account to send money to the exchange?
I'm not sure where you're from, but if it's anything like an IBAN or SEPA(?), they'll start asking questions real soon, maybe not for 50$, but for bigger amounts, you might very well get investigated -- not to mention,

you essentially linked (on purpose) your name (with your bank account!) to "an identity" (fake id) ...that is committing identity fraud.... You're not anonymous in any way, if anything: quite the opposite?

I don't think you've really though long and hard about this? Why go through all this trouble just to purposely commit identity fraud? They already know everything if they'd wanted to due to your wire transfer, (i assume)

This, ofcourse, is aside from the fact that it's just stupid to defraud an exchange for all the reasons listed above...

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

I would strongly advise against submitting any form of fake ID.

Regardless of what anyone feels about KYC (I personally think it's completely unnecessary in a lot of instances), you should not be defrauding the exchange and going against their terms and conditions. You are not only going against the loan here, but also you're putting your own funds at risk - why bother?

As others said, it's no laughing matter. There are ways to buy BTC with card on other sites with slightly worse rates without verification, but this ain't it chief.

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

Don't involve yourself in any form of money transactions if you will just use fake documents. I mean, isn't it usual that KYC is always associated with any money transactions much especially to fiat transactions involving banks?

Are you really not comfortable with KYC or you are hiding something? I have known lots of people who dislike the idea of KYC but never think of submitting fake documents like what you want. Instead, they are finding alternatives and which you didn't consider.

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It's a criminal offense and I think you should learn the laws that lies within that idea you have. You will sure be in a big trouble by doing that and why not just send your own identity if you want to pass on KYC?

Are you keeping identities of other people in your computer? you better get rid of them as soon as possible. To deal with no problems in the future, just send your own but if you are not willing, use a DEX or an exchange that doesn't require KYC that supports the deposit/withdrawal you want.

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Your only option if you can't/don't want to do it is to ask a friend to verify an account and then you both can use it. I don't recommend this though because as people have said.. If there's any issue - you *will* lose your funds..

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

What are you hidding for? Just apply your real documents following your account bank. Those company have deal with you to all information or data costumers. Just take a read then reseach those company able to be trusted or not.
Then how possible you can made a fake document? if you do it, you could be face-to-face with laws then you will potentially deal with prison or pay fines.

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Quote from: 1R1S on October 11, 2019, 01:33:55 AM

I want to register at dsx.uk to buy btc for market price, I have to make a fiat deposit either via their card(epayments) or bank wire. Obviously this thing conforms to KYC regulations, which nobody likes. Suppose I submit fake documents, do you think I'll have troubles depositing to exchange with bank wire? Normally any financial service requires you to deposit from your own bank account, I'm not sure if exchange would check where money come from.

I also want to hear from you how many times you submitted fake documents to crypto-related services, and how it turned out in future. Did you have your accounts locked? If so, how much time passed between locking and verification process? I was stupid enough to believe this government-forced bullshit which anyone can bypass with a bit of photoshop.

Do not send fake documents in, definetly no. They are pretty easy to catch out and if the service communicates with your bank or anything and finds out it's fake, all the money you have in those accounts are instantly no longer yours and you will likely never get them back, as well as face jail time and definetly a hefty fine for forging government documents.

It'll be pretty hard to buy BTC for marker prices without kyc, you can either just submit to them and do actual kyc or find buyers on localbitcoins or localETH that don't care about your ID, but have pretty hefty fees.

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If you submit fake documents and you get caught, you're in trouble. You could possibly be facing jail time as far as I know.

if you don't want to submit KYC, simply use services that don't require KYC! Try out Bisq[1]. It's a peer-to-peer marketplace. Though liquidity is bad and you might need to set up buy/sell offers to get prices you want, this is probably the best option you have.

[1] https://bisq.network/

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Never try to fake out your identity in centralized exchange because if someday if you get blocked and the exchange asked for KYC then you won't be able to prove that you are who you were and this may lead to losing your funds. As Steamtyme said, there are other ways to buy coins; check those out... as an example localbitcoins, you can buy up to 1k euro without KYC though it requires email & phone verification. But traders may ask you for KYC if your payment term is a risky one.

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Do not send fake documents for KYC. You are essentially forfeiting any rights to the coins should they choose to check, which I'm sure they will. I've never submitted fake documents, this day in age it's a terrible idea to attempt to pass off fake ID's. There are so many other options to get your hands on coins, if you don't want to use a KYC exchange. The Forums Marketplace for one has a currency exchange board. It will be tough to find someone to trust you for PP or something like that given your newbie account status.

P2P doesn't always come with a higher fee, some people are more than happy to go 1:1. I've never used it but someone was mentioning bisq as an option, which might work for you starting with small amounts at first. I've used Binance for a quick under $1000 purchase and would continue to do it, mind you I wasn't transferring Fiat, I was using crypto to buy coins.

Unfortunately it seems to be the trend that any business that has the ability to freeze your funds might just do so. It's a risk so be prepared to provide documents or take a loss.

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Quote from: MMysterious on October 11, 2019, 01:44:35 AM

Many times it comes to my mind about submitting fake profiles but I realized that I should just submit my real documents because in the future you might have issues and is needed to resubmit your information documents again which is hard if you are submitting fake profiles. But as much as possible I am not into KYC unless super necessary.

If you want to buy bitcoin then maybe try peer to peer. Then you can send it to exchanges that have high limits even if no verification. In Binance, no verification or level 1 account withdrawal limit is 1 btc daily.

P2P trading implies high fees (5% in best case); maybe binance is good choice, as long as I don't keep a lot of funds there... I heard it can freeze your account and ask you for verification even if their ToS don't require that.

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