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Topic: How to stop paying taxes, and get out from under government control. - page 5. (Read 791 times)

legendary
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If you own property (including an apartment/condo) and don't pay property taxes, eventually the government will just seize your property and sell it to recover taxes (and a shit load of fees) owed.  I don't think there's any way around that.

Also, if you sell it with owed taxes, the government will get paid before you do.

But not necessarily.

If you don't have a contract with government stating that you are going to pay taxes, and you file a formal court claim against anyone in government who is messing with your property, you can stave off government intruders. Physical property seizure will be a return of far greater $amounts when you win in court, if you do it the common law, man-to-man way.

Don't sell your property. Rather, place it in trust with yourself as the trustee. If you find a prospective buyer, make him the successor trustee, in line to take over if you resign from your trusteeship. When he has paid you, resign. No sale... the same trust still owns the property. No sales tax, because no sale. If the government is picky, have him place his money in trust, and make you the successor trustee. When he resigns, you become the trustee of the money trust.

All perfectly legal and lawful, upheld by the freedom to contract expressed by the US Constitution and courts, and upheld by all State Constitutions... because they all have agreed to uphold the US Constitution.

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legendary
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Right! If you file your W-4 with your employer, n-a (non-assumpsit) on all the lines except the "EXEMPT" line, where you write EXEMPT, and sign it non-assumpsit, By: Your Signature, Agent, you can sue your employer if he withholds.

"Non-assumpsit" means "no-contract" to the IRS. They will honor it if you don't have some other contracts with them, because taxes are voluntary by contract or agreement. Your employer might not honor it, however, because he is basically ignorant about the voluntary nature of income taxes.

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Even if it were legal you should not be allowed to do this.

People who do not want to pay taxes in the USA should not be allowed to live permanently in the US, own any property, be a citizen, etc.

You don't want to pay taxes? Fine, you will be stripped of the US citizenship, or Green Card, your property, the bank accounts will be seized without compensation and you can immigrate to any country that will take you.

Either you are part of that society or you are not.  Being part of that society means you have to contribute to it.

Selfish leeches should be removed, or incarcerated IMHO.

All you tax "resisters" will be put in jail and your property will be seized, one way or another.  Only complete morons can follow your logic.

"I don't have to pay taxes but I will drive on public roads, drink water from public aquifers, send my kids to public schools, get my government IDs or other services, register my real property, etc."

Are you a complete moron, or you are just pretending to be one?

That is a very socialist/communist way of thinking.  I want stuff but I don't want to pay for it.

Not only is this legal, it's also lawful. It has to do with contract law. Living in your definition of the USA doesn't have anything to do with it. The USA is what upholds what I have written, and many people are doing it all the time, with more learning how.

People are finding that, if they were born in a State, that they are not really US citizens... although the US accepts them readily. So, they are changing their status on paper to State citizen through things like this - http://coppermoonshinestills.com/id71.html.

What happens when you become a State citizen and not a US citizen, with regard to income taxes? You don't have to file with the IRS... except to tell them that you are not making any agreements with them. All State taxes are based on IRS returns. No IRS return = no State return, either. Totally legal and lawful.

If you are the kind of person who wants to pay, great! Pay. But why do you want to take my freedom to NOT pay away from me? You are a slave maker, at least in spirit. And you want to make slaves of anybody who is free, especially if they use the law to be free.

At best you are a hypocrite. At worst you are a complete controller/slave-maker. That's way more socialistic and communistic than exercising your freedom.

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legendary
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US taxes are completely voluntary!
Why are people been arrested because they refuse to pay tax in the USA? In every country, people that have no such of income and has no home or any taxable assets are completely exempted from tax.
 The recommendations op is given will definitely going to land someone that try to do that in prison. Paying of tax is good if the governments and tax officers are not embezzled the money and the proceed from tax are used to build social amenities.

It's actually not illegal to not pay your taxes in the USA.  You can't be arrested for refusing to pay.

Lying on your taxes is a different story.

Right! If you file your W-4 with your employer, n-a (non-assumpsit) on all the lines except the "EXEMPT" line, where you write EXEMPT, and sign it non-assumpsit, By: Your Signature, Agent, you can sue your employer if he withholds.

"Non-assumpsit" means "no-contract" to the IRS. They will honor it if you don't have some other contracts with them, because taxes are voluntary by contract or agreement. Your employer might not honor it, however, because he is basically ignorant about the voluntary nature of income taxes.

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Even if it were legal you should not be allowed to do this.

People who do not want to pay taxes in the USA should not be allowed to live permanently in the US, own any property, be a citizen, etc.

You don't want to pay taxes? Fine, you will be stripped of the US citizenship, or Green Card, your property, the bank accounts will be seized without compensation and you can immigrate to any country that will take you.

Either you are part of that society or you are not.  Being part of that society means you have to contribute to it.

Selfish leeches should be removed, or incarcerated IMHO.

All you tax "resisters" will be put in jail and your property will be seized, one way or another.  Only complete morons can follow your logic.

"I don't have to pay taxes but I will drive on public roads, drink water from public aquifers, send my kids to public schools, get my government IDs or other services, register my real property, etc."

Are you a complete moron, or you are just pretending to be one?

That is a very socialist/communist way of thinking.  I want stuff but I don't want to pay for it.

If you own property (including an apartment/condo) and don't pay property taxes, eventually the government will just seize your property and sell it to recover taxes (and a shit load of fees) owed.  I don't think there's any way around that.

Also, if you sell it with owed taxes, the government will get paid before you do.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
US taxes are completely voluntary!
Why are people been arrested because they refuse to pay tax in the USA? In every country, people that have no such of income and has no home or any taxable assets are completely exempted from tax.
 The recommendations op is given will definitely going to land someone that try to do that in prison. Paying of tax is good if the governments and tax officers are not embezzled the money and the proceed from tax are used to build social amenities.

It's actually not illegal to not pay your taxes in the USA.  You can't be arrested for refusing to pay.

Lying on your taxes is a different story.

Right! If you file your W-4 with your employer, n-a (non-assumpsit) on all the lines except the "EXEMPT" line, where you write EXEMPT, and sign it non-assumpsit, By: Your Signature, Agent, you can sue your employer if he withholds.

"Non-assumpsit" means "no-contract" to the IRS. They will honor it if you don't have some other contracts with them, because taxes are voluntary by contract or agreement. Your employer might not honor it, however, because he is basically ignorant about the voluntary nature of income taxes.

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Even if it were legal you should not be allowed to do this.

People who do not want to pay taxes in the USA should not be allowed to live permanently in the US, own any property, be a citizen, etc.

You don't want to pay taxes? Fine, you will be stripped of the US citizenship, or Green Card, your property, the bank accounts will be seized without compensation and you can immigrate to any country that will take you.

Either you are part of that society or you are not.  Being part of that society means you have to contribute to it.

Selfish leeches should be removed, or incarcerated IMHO.

All you tax "resisters" will be put in jail and your property will be seized, one way or another.  Only complete morons can follow your logic.

"I don't have to pay taxes but I will drive on public roads, drink water from public aquifers, send my kids to public schools, get my government IDs or other services, register my real property, etc."

Are you a complete moron, or you are just pretending to be one?

That is a very socialist/communist way of thinking.  I want stuff but I don't want to pay for it.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
US taxes are completely voluntary!
Why are people been arrested because they refuse to pay tax in the USA? In every country, people that have no such of income and has no home or any taxable assets are completely exempted from tax.
 The recommendations op is given will definitely going to land someone that try to do that in prison. Paying of tax is good if the governments and tax officers are not embezzled the money and the proceed from tax are used to build social amenities.

It's actually not illegal to not pay your taxes in the USA.  You can't be arrested for refusing to pay.

Lying on your taxes is a different story.

Right! If you file your W-4 with your employer, n-a (non-assumpsit) on all the lines except the "EXEMPT" line, where you write EXEMPT, and sign it non-assumpsit, By: Your Signature, Agent, you can sue your employer if he withholds.

"Non-assumpsit" means "no-contract" to the IRS. They will honor it if you don't have some other contracts with them, because taxes are voluntary by contract or agreement. Your employer might not honor it, however, because he is basically ignorant about the voluntary nature of income taxes.

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legendary
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US taxes are completely voluntary!
Why are people been arrested because they refuse to pay tax in the USA? In every country, people that have no such of income and has no home or any taxable assets are completely exempted from tax.
 The recommendations op is given will definitely going to land someone that try to do that in prison. Paying of tax is good if the governments and tax officers are not embezzled the money and the proceed from tax are used to build social amenities.

It's actually not illegal to not pay your taxes in the USA.  You can't be arrested for refusing to pay.

Lying on your taxes is a different story.
sr. member
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US taxes are completely voluntary!
Why are people been arrested because they refuse to pay tax in the USA? In every country, people that have no such of income and has no home or any taxable assets are completely exempted from tax.
 The recommendations op is given will definitely going to land someone that try to do that in prison. Paying of tax is good if the governments and tax officers are not embezzled the money and the proceed from tax are used to build social amenities.
legendary
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As long as you don't own a home, plan on buying a home, own a business, are employed by a business, or plan on being employed by a business for more than a few months, then yeah, US taxes are completely voluntary!
legendary
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I'm in the UK. Taxes here are only voluntary if you are a citizen of the City of London.
legendary
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I believe that it is better to follow the laws of your country, and to pay taxes, even if you disagree with the use they make of the money. This doesn't prevent you from arranging your affairs to reduce your tax liabilities, and to follow a lifestyle that provides you with the greatest freedom. This is why I have become a digital nomad, but I don't try to fight the system, I just try to take advantage of it wherever possible.

This is the exact point. In the USA, income taxes are legally voluntary. Have you never see the paperwork that the IRS published in the past that said your taxes are voluntary?

If you volunteer in, you can volunteer out. But you can't even tie your shoe laces if you don't know how. So, learn how to volunteer out if you want. Otherwise, your taxes are voluntary. And voluntary means they are essentially gifts from you.

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legendary
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I believe that it is better to follow the laws of your country, and to pay taxes, even if you disagree with the use they make of the money. This doesn't prevent you from arranging your affairs to reduce your tax liabilities, and to follow a lifestyle that provides you with the greatest freedom. This is why I have become a digital nomad, but I don't try to fight the system, I just try to take advantage of it wherever possible.
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This is an amazing guide if you want to get arrested, put in front of a judge and told that you have to do whatever they tell you because being a state citizen isn't going to work in the least. I've seen more and more videos of people doing this, but it still doesn't work.

This is some old BS that people try to cite from one of the original documents relating to the formation of the US. So just don't try this or you're going to get arrested.
There are some great youtube compilations of these idiots trying to sell all those nonsensical arguments to cops and judges.

search "sovereign citizens getting owned" and enjoy.

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Haha i saw those videos, it is funny how people believe everything they see on the internet, and when they try that thing in the real  life, they get owned:D

Only way to avoid paying taxes all together  is if you go to the jungle, cut yourself completely from society and try to be self-sufficient. And maybe , just maybe you might get away with it.

legendary
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This is an amazing guide if you want to get arrested, put in front of a judge and told that you have to do whatever they tell you because being a state citizen isn't going to work in the least. I've seen more and more videos of people doing this, but it still doesn't work.

This is some old BS that people try to cite from one of the original documents relating to the formation of the US. So just don't try this or you're going to get arrested.
There are some great youtube compilations of these idiots trying to sell all those nonsensical arguments to cops and judges.

search "sovereign citizens getting owned" and enjoy.

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legendary
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Of course it doesn't work. Magic doesn't just happen because you have some paperwork, or because you watched some Youtube videos, or because you listened to some law guru. But, when you make things happen, they do.

Generally the judge isn't going to get up, call in the local newspaper or TV guy, and say, "This guy won. We lost." There are many records of wins with this stuff, often because the judge helped somebody out a little with the guy's own paperwork.

When a prosecutor drops the charges and the case, most people don't know how to go after reimbursement. And if the case is dropped, it doesn't getrwritten up in court records with enough detail to tell what happened or why. Paperwork like this is giving people a winning edge all over the place.

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EDIT: Look through the instructions for filling out the paperwork. When you sign the paperwork, you sign it: By: Your Signature, Agent. Under Laws of agency, you aren't responsible for what the principal does. So, whoever that principal is that is named in the paperwork, you get the paperwork done, you get your status, but you aren't responsible, except if you harm someone.
legendary
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This is an amazing guide if you want to get arrested, put in front of a judge and told that you have to do whatever they tell you because being a state citizen isn't going to work in the least. I've seen more and more videos of people doing this, but it still doesn't work.

This is some old BS that people try to cite from one of the original documents relating to the formation of the US. So just don't try this or you're going to get arrested.
legendary
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Become a State Citizen, and back it up with man-to-man common law.

BEAT THE LAW | DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY | STATE CITIZEN PASSPORT - http://coppermoonshinestills.com/id71.html.

Learn more - http://www.abodia.com/.

Even more - http://jurorinlaw.com/talkshoe/klentz/.

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