How to Win using martingale system? - page 16.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on February 11, 2017, 04:53:42 AM

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if you believe that a strategy is bad, then it doesn't matter if you play with that strategy for one minute or half an hour! you can lose with it in the first minute.
and also if the strategy works for (30min-1hr etc..) then it should work for 10 hours too. since the time is not a factor in the results of betting specially when it comes to a provably fair dice game.

martingale is bad mostly because the bankroll of the players can not handle the amount of loss when a big losing streak hits. but if the bankroll problem is fixed then it can be useful.

Tell that to the gamblers who won for the first few hours and then lost in the end! also, time is a huge factor if you want to gain profit and it also helps you lessen the chance of losing your bankroll.

You're making me laugh! How can you fix a bankroll? increasing the amount of the bankroll? you're just increasing the amount you're going to lose!

all you have to do is adjust the amount of your bet suited to your bankroll for you to use martingale even if you don't have a huge amount of bankroll.

increasing the bnkroll is based on how much you are betting and it is assuming you still have the same bet sizes not increase the bankroll and then increase the size of your bets too, that would be pointless.

also i didn't say increasing bankroll is going to guarantee your win. i didn't even say increase your bankroll. if you read the comment again you can see that i am saying the problem with losing in martingale is the bankroll which means if you have unlimited bankroll you can win other wise it is not guaranteed.

with a higher bankroll you will only increase the chances of winning.

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Martingale system is easy to play, double the bet amount when you lose, it is too thrilled, but easy to be broke. I like Fabonacci system, which is proven profitable if you have decent strategy.

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Although I know that martingale strategy isn't always working I use it in dice games from time to time. First I divide my bankroll by 2 eight times. That's how I know what my base bet would be for playing with 50% win chance. Then I set the NUMBER OF ROLLS to 100 on AUTOMATED BETTING and of course ON LOSS increase by 100% and ON WIN return to base. Most of the time it works for me, but of course not always, and when I lose, I lose all my bankroll.

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Quote from: rizkyhiw on February 14, 2017, 04:02:49 AM

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Quote from: sir.humus on February 11, 2017, 05:42:06 AM

The important thing to know about Martingale is that it doesn’t increase your odds of winning. Your long-term expected return is still the same. You can’t escape from that.
What the strategy does do is delay losses. Under the right conditions, losses can be delayed by so much that it seems a sure thing.

Right but actually what I have seen is that when people easily win money using martingale they just increase their initial amount of betting and hence loosing much quickly. I was betting at fortunejack for a long time using martingale and I realize this thing that the more smaller we bet, though profits are less too but we bust a lot later.

No way you can make profit steady in the long run with martingale
It works for short term only , i have done this for years and yet i am in negative
Trust me you better to stay away , don't dare to even try this method.

You really cannot make profit from gambling sites all the time and that is a fact and If you are using martingale as a strategy make sure you have a good balance so that you do not bust and the most safe route is to increase the odds and lower the risk ,if not the house edge will catch up with you.

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Many time we have more loses then we expected so I don't think Martingale is also working every time because this also can give you some big loses as you expected try to avoid these systems and play small which you can afford to lost I not realize this so currently completely out of way now trying to settle away from this gambling

It is a good idea to stay away from gambling and if you are not winning for a long time then it is definitely time to move away to other things,the chances of winning through martingale system is when you are having a good balance and when you roll with a decently low base bet and reset after a certain limit and start from the beginning,i have won some using that strategy.

as always, we should use this for such a short period of time since it was design to double your bets after losing with certain amount and if house give you a wild streak of red for sure your bankroll will be eaten alive with this, better to use your own experiment to win little and still enjoying the game.

Yeah exactly as martingale is based on basically " waiting for loosing " and the longer you play it the more you are exposed to the risk and hence basically you will loose in the end if you just keep doing it. I think paroli is another good one if we see because its opposite of martingale.

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Quote from: Monnt on February 14, 2017, 02:44:06 AM

Quote from: sir.humus on February 11, 2017, 05:42:06 AM

The important thing to know about Martingale is that it doesn’t increase your odds of winning. Your long-term expected return is still the same. You can’t escape from that.
What the strategy does do is delay losses. Under the right conditions, losses can be delayed by so much that it seems a sure thing.

Right but actually what I have seen is that when people easily win money using martingale they just increase their initial amount of betting and hence loosing much quickly. I was betting at fortunejack for a long time using martingale and I realize this thing that the more smaller we bet, though profits are less too but we bust a lot later.

No way you can make profit steady in the long run with martingale
It works for short term only , i have done this for years and yet i am in negative
Trust me you better to stay away , don't dare to even try this method.

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Quote from: Monnt on February 14, 2017, 02:44:06 AM

Quote from: sir.humus on February 11, 2017, 05:42:06 AM

The important thing to know about Martingale is that it doesn’t increase your odds of winning. Your long-term expected return is still the same. You can’t escape from that.
What the strategy does do is delay losses. Under the right conditions, losses can be delayed by so much that it seems a sure thing.

Right but actually what I have seen is that when people easily win money using martingale they just increase their initial amount of betting and hence loosing much quickly. I was betting at fortunejack for a long time using martingale and I realize this thing that the more smaller we bet, though profits are less too but we bust a lot later.

If you are having a good balance then martingale could work fine if you are playing with low odds and low base value and make sure you are good to see more reds with the bank roll you have and if so you dont bust and if you can do that it is highly unlikely you will be busting.Change odds often and never stick to a single pattern to win in a dice site.

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Quote from: sir.humus on February 11, 2017, 05:42:06 AM

The important thing to know about Martingale is that it doesn’t increase your odds of winning. Your long-term expected return is still the same. You can’t escape from that.
What the strategy does do is delay losses. Under the right conditions, losses can be delayed by so much that it seems a sure thing.

Right but actually what I have seen is that when people easily win money using martingale they just increase their initial amount of betting and hence loosing much quickly. I was betting at fortunejack for a long time using martingale and I realize this thing that the more smaller we bet, though profits are less too but we bust a lot later.

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Quote from: error08 on February 12, 2017, 12:24:37 PM

Quote from: LovelyPrey on January 13, 2017, 12:05:47 PM

i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

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Martingale will not works in games such as dice or slots which depends on luck, I don't believe it as players have very small chance to win the game, even though you're lucky enough and get profit, you will lose in the end or another day when you come back.
Mostly case, the martingale strategy will make your loss doubled, many people have prove it.

Indeed, this strategy is not fully successful, but this system could be useful to get a win in a game of dice or slots. The point of this Martingale system requires us to bet flat along the session. But when we lose, we have to redouble our bets on the next opportunity. And keep in mind this is only for short periods of time because the longer the play will be even greater losses. Financial management and self-control is required in this system. Most gamblers do Martingale system in the long term and continuous so failed.

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Quote from: LovelyPrey on January 13, 2017, 12:05:47 PM

i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

Share it here if you have something there Cheesy

Martingale will not works in games such as dice or slots which depends on luck, I don't believe it as players have very small chance to win the game, even though you're lucky enough and get profit, you will lose in the end or another day when you come back.
Mostly case, the martingale strategy will make your loss doubled, many people have prove it.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on February 11, 2017, 08:22:09 AM

you must have the an early goal how much profit you want if I'm 5% of bankroll if it has reached the desired profit me more often to create a new account one account only for one session. I often use this strategy and more profitable than losses
NB : stop if your loss has reached 10% of bankroll

If only we could control ourselves, not everyone can control themselves when winning/losing. if one is winning he wants more, if losing he wants to recover his loss. controlling is everything in gambling if we can't control our emotions then gambling isn't for us.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 12, 2017, 06:03:30 AM

Quote from: Herbert2020 on February 11, 2017, 04:53:42 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on February 11, 2017, 04:40:20 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 11, 2017, 02:58:47 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on February 11, 2017, 02:51:20 AM

Quote from: LovelyPrey on January 13, 2017, 12:05:47 PM

i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

Share it here if you have something there Cheesy

It doesn't matter if you have a big or a small bankroll to use martingale, you can just adjust your betting amount
suited to your bankroll may it be big or small. but if you want to make the best use of martingale strategy use it
only for a short time what I mean about this is use martingale for as short as possible until you have a profit
if you failed to earn a profit then stop. but if you ask me personally avoid martingale strategy as long as possible.
you know what they(gambling owners) call martingale strategy? donation strategy!

Our aim is to win in the long run and we need consistency to be able to do that, martingale can help us if we will make it with a game that no house edge is involve. It is true that we lose in the long run and the house always wins but that reality can be bypass, we have to be smart enough to develop our skills and choose only a game where we think it can deliver us profit.

Poker is a good example of that game, I believe there are quite few gamblers who made fortune with that type of gambling.[b/]

So does in dice games, roulette, slot, scrap, blackjack etc...

and as you said few gamblers, can't imagine how many gamblers lost in poker!

My point is, don't use martingale ever time you play or if you use martingale, use it for short time only(30min-1hr etc..)
and if you failed to win some profit then use another strategy. don't aim to win in the long run aim to win every time you gamble.

if you believe that a strategy is bad, then it doesn't matter if you play with that strategy for one minute or half an hour! you can lose with it in the first minute.
and also if the strategy works for (30min-1hr etc..) then it should work for 10 hours too. since the time is not a factor in the results of betting specially when it comes to a provably fair dice game.

martingale is bad mostly because the bankroll of the players can not handle the amount of loss when a big losing streak hits. but if the bankroll problem is fixed then it can be useful.

Tell that to the gamblers who won for the first few hours and then lost in the end! also, time is a huge factor if you want to gain profit and it also helps you lessen the chance of losing your bankroll.

You're making me laugh! How can you fix a bankroll? increasing the amount of the bankroll? you're just increasing the amount you're going to lose!

all you have to do is adjust the amount of your bet suited to your bankroll for you to use martingale even if you don't have a huge amount of bankroll.

I agree that time is important factor, the more you play more likely you are going to lose. But when you use martingale there are no guaranties that your game will last more than 15 seconds.

Quote from: acroman08 on February 12, 2017, 06:03:30 AM

all you have to do is adjust the amount of your bet suited to your bankroll for you to use martingale even if you don't have a huge amount of bankroll.

For example? If i have 0.1btc, and i set base bet to 1 satoshi, i can miss 23 times in row, If i set base bet 10 sat i can miss 19 times etc, i don't see how you can adjust martingale.

EDIT* Is it worth to risk 0.1btc for 1 satoshi? NO.

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There are so many variations of the martingale with completely varying results. I think the skill that is required is knowing when to stop. As time goes on, the system becomes increasingly riskier since you end up risking more and more money. It seems strange that a lot of gamblers seem to look for very specific systems, not realising that you need to be smart and willing to accept losses if you are not winning.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on February 11, 2017, 04:53:42 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on February 11, 2017, 04:40:20 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 11, 2017, 02:58:47 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on February 11, 2017, 02:51:20 AM

Quote from: LovelyPrey on January 13, 2017, 12:05:47 PM

i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

Share it here if you have something there Cheesy

It doesn't matter if you have a big or a small bankroll to use martingale, you can just adjust your betting amount
suited to your bankroll may it be big or small. but if you want to make the best use of martingale strategy use it
only for a short time what I mean about this is use martingale for as short as possible until you have a profit
if you failed to earn a profit then stop. but if you ask me personally avoid martingale strategy as long as possible.
you know what they(gambling owners) call martingale strategy? donation strategy!

Our aim is to win in the long run and we need consistency to be able to do that, martingale can help us if we will make it with a game that no house edge is involve. It is true that we lose in the long run and the house always wins but that reality can be bypass, we have to be smart enough to develop our skills and choose only a game where we think it can deliver us profit.

Poker is a good example of that game, I believe there are quite few gamblers who made fortune with that type of gambling.[b/]

So does in dice games, roulette, slot, scrap, blackjack etc...

and as you said few gamblers, can't imagine how many gamblers lost in poker!

My point is, don't use martingale ever time you play or if you use martingale, use it for short time only(30min-1hr etc..)
and if you failed to win some profit then use another strategy. don't aim to win in the long run aim to win every time you gamble.

if you believe that a strategy is bad, then it doesn't matter if you play with that strategy for one minute or half an hour! you can lose with it in the first minute.
and also if the strategy works for (30min-1hr etc..) then it should work for 10 hours too. since the time is not a factor in the results of betting specially when it comes to a provably fair dice game.

martingale is bad mostly because the bankroll of the players can not handle the amount of loss when a big losing streak hits. but if the bankroll problem is fixed then it can be useful.

Tell that to the gamblers who won for the first few hours and then lost in the end! also, time is a huge factor if you want to gain profit and it also helps you lessen the chance of losing your bankroll.

You're making me laugh! How can you fix a bankroll? increasing the amount of the bankroll? you're just increasing the amount you're going to lose!

all you have to do is adjust the amount of your bet suited to your bankroll for you to use martingale even if you don't have a huge amount of bankroll.

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Early exit with profit is only way to not loss much with martingale. Decide what % of profit you will be happy with and what % of loss you can afford before you start playing and strictly follow this.

Request withdrawal when you reach your targeted profit % and stop playing when you hit % of loss you can afford.

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Quote from: acroman08 on February 11, 2017, 04:40:20 AM

My point is, don't use martingale ever time you play or if you use martingale, use it for short time only(30min-1hr etc..)
and if you failed to win some profit then use another strategy. don't aim to win in the long run aim to win every time you gamble.

Better not to use martingale at all. Short or long time, no matter 30min or 1 hour, or you can run martingale for days(if you are very lucky of course), but in the end, you will face more than 20 reds in row and you will lose your entire bankroll, no matter how small your base bet is.

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you must have the an early goal how much profit you want if I'm 5% of bankroll if it has reached the desired profit me more often to create a new account one account only for one session. I often use this strategy and more profitable than losses
NB : stop if your loss has reached 10% of bankroll

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Quote from: bitcoinmasterlord on February 11, 2017, 05:51:35 AM

Quote from: sir.humus on February 11, 2017, 05:42:06 AM

The important thing to know about Martingale is that it doesn’t increase your odds of winning. Your long-term expected return is still the same. You can’t escape from that.
What the strategy does do is delay losses. Under the right conditions, losses can be delayed by so much that it seems a sure thing.

Yes, it will not increase our odds, but it will increase our betting amount for ever loss in the game. And yes only when we are in loss we will use this method to get back our loss. This is not a winning strategy. If anyone make a profit in martingale method? Is it easy?

Not that easy , Martingle is not just increasing betting it need to be appropriate with the game that martingle would be one of the stratedgy to win . I make some profit with it but not too large amount . Sportsbetting and dice is the game which i use martingle method with right pause and play again a little bit boring but profitable. Timing and patient is needed.

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Quote from: sir.humus on February 11, 2017, 05:42:06 AM

The important thing to know about Martingale is that it doesn’t increase your odds of winning. Your long-term expected return is still the same. You can’t escape from that.
What the strategy does do is delay losses. Under the right conditions, losses can be delayed by so much that it seems a sure thing.

Yes, it will not increase our odds, but it will increase our betting amount for ever loss in the game. And yes only when we are in loss we will use this method to get back our loss. This is not a winning strategy. If anyone make a profit in martingale method? Is it easy?

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The important thing to know about Martingale is that it doesn’t increase your odds of winning. Your long-term expected return is still the same. You can’t escape from that.
What the strategy does do is delay losses. Under the right conditions, losses can be delayed by so much that it seems a sure thing.

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