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newbie
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June 27, 2014, 08:04:38 PM
#32
Is this a real thing?Huh And i thought you could trust today's medic system  Angry. I hate doctors so much , they told vaccines were good for you. I'll never take vaccines again, and i'm gonna tell all my friends and family to not get vaccines!!!!
newbie
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June 27, 2014, 07:53:45 PM
#31
I believe they don't cause autism. It's actually sad how many people believe that Sad. There is NO actual scientific facts that prove that vaccines cause autism. Angry
hero member
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June 27, 2014, 07:27:10 PM
#30
Vaccines do cause autism, Jenny McCarthy said so.

I mean, who can dispute these facts: http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

 Grin
legendary
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June 27, 2014, 05:07:58 PM
#29
Those serious side effects are allergic reactions and occur in less than 1% of vaccinations.

Would your rather eradicate horrific, fatal diseases? Or worry about an adverse effect that occurs one in a million.

The argument against big drug companies and pushing drugs for profit is irrelevant in relation vaccines. In certain pharmaceutical markets, yes, but not vaccines. A drug company may give a doctor incentives to push a certain drug but that doesn't relate to MMR, tetanus, hep, hpv shots or anything else your baby would get when born.



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In the UK, the MMR vaccine was the subject of controversy after publication of a 1998 paper by Andrew Wakefield et al. reporting a study of twelve children who had bowel symptoms along with autism or other disorders, including cases where onset was believed by the parents to be soon after administration of MMR vaccine.[33] In 2010, Wakefield's research was found by the General Medical Council to have been "dishonest",[34] and The Lancet fully retracted the original paper.[35] The research was declared fraudulent in 2011 by the British Medical Journal.[36] Several subsequent peer-reviewed studies have failed to show any association between the vaccine and autism.[37]

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,[38] the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences,[39] the UK National Health Service[40] and the Cochrane Library review[17] have all concluded that there is no evidence of a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.

Administering the vaccines in three separate doses does not reduce the chance of adverse effects, and it increases the opportunity for infection by the two diseases not immunized against first.[37][41] Health experts have criticized media reporting of the MMR-autism controversy for triggering a decline in vaccination rates.[42] Before publication of Wakefield's findings, the inoculation rate for MMR in the UK was 92%; after publication, the rate dropped to below 80%. In 1998, there were 56 measles cases in the UK; by 2008, there were 1348 cases, with 2 confirmed deaths.[43]

In Japan, the MMR vaccination has been discontinued, with single vaccines being used for each disease. Rates of autism diagnosis have continued to increase, showing no correlation with the change.[44]

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June 27, 2014, 05:06:49 PM
#28
The vaccine you guys are referring to is called "Pandemrix", it has been discontinued by GSK.

Most vaccines have side effects, some more serious than others. You just have to balance the benefits and the probability/gravity of the side effects yourself. I would give my children vaccines for serious illnesses and never for flu.

If people are so worried about vaccine side effects, what about antibiotics or common paracetamol? They have side effects too, where do you draw the line?

I haven't took paracetamol in more than three years and if I even ever have took antibiotics, I was so young I can't remember it anymore (under 7 or so).
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June 27, 2014, 04:47:47 PM
#27
The vaccine you guys are referring to is called "Pandemrix", it has been discontinued by GSK.

Most vaccines have side effects, some more serious than others. You just have to balance the benefits and the probability/gravity of the side effects yourself. I would give my children vaccines for serious illnesses and never for flu.

If people are so worried about vaccine side effects, what about antibiotics or common paracetamol? They have side effects too, where do you draw the line?
legendary
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amarha
June 27, 2014, 03:26:21 PM
#26
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.
You're wrong and are going to cause people to die.

Why I am wrong?
H1N1 vaccine caused narcolepsy, even doctors admitted it.
And I'm sure other vaccines will have other side effects too, they sell them for money.

If a vaccine is used in modern medicine then whatever side effects are there outweigh the dangers of not being vaccinated. Children die because of people like you. You should seriously consider what your willing to do in the name of 'fighting the system'.

Well that's where I disagree, if there were definitive proof that these vaccines did serious harm to children then by all means I'd be fighting it as well, but really this is just a case of paranoid delusion, if it really were the case that vaccines caused this many problems then doctors would be up in arms, because you know, there are people who choose to become doctors to help people, that's why you can trust them more than say a politician.

Yeah, I agree that if there were any evidence of serious side effects that the offending vaccines would be taken out of use. I'm just saying that the known side effects are not harmful enough to cause doctors to want to discontinue their use. What I was trying to say is that if they are being used in medicine that means that the evidence is there that they don't cause serious harm. But like any medicine, may have some undesirable side effects.
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June 27, 2014, 03:07:01 PM
#25
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.
You're wrong and are going to cause people to die.

Why I am wrong?
H1N1 vaccine caused narcolepsy, even doctors admitted it.
And I'm sure other vaccines will have other side effects too, they sell them for money.

If a vaccine is used in modern medicine then whatever side effects are there outweigh the dangers of not being vaccinated. Children die because of people like you. You should seriously consider what your willing to do in the name of 'fighting the system'.

Well that's where I disagree, if there were definitive proof that these vaccines did serious harm to children then by all means I'd be fighting it as well, but really this is just a case of paranoid delusion, if it really were the case that vaccines caused this many problems then doctors would be up in arms, because you know, there are people who choose to become doctors to help people, that's why you can trust them more than say a politician.

Those doctors who want to help, haven't made those vaccines.
Big drug companies make them and they wan't money.
And this is for other drugs too, not just vaccines. Have you read those side effect warnings in them?
legendary
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June 27, 2014, 02:57:13 PM
#24
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.
You're wrong and are going to cause people to die.

Why I am wrong?
H1N1 vaccine caused narcolepsy, even doctors admitted it.
And I'm sure other vaccines will have other side effects too, they sell them for money.

If a vaccine is used in modern medicine then whatever side effects are there outweigh the dangers of not being vaccinated. Children die because of people like you. You should seriously consider what your willing to do in the name of 'fighting the system'.

Well that's where I disagree, if there were definitive proof that these vaccines did serious harm to children then by all means I'd be fighting it as well, but really this is just a case of paranoid delusion, if it really were the case that vaccines caused this many problems then doctors would be up in arms, because you know, there are people who choose to become doctors to help people, that's why you can trust them more than say a politician.
legendary
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amarha
June 27, 2014, 02:52:56 PM
#23
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.
You're wrong and are going to cause people to die.

Why I am wrong?
H1N1 vaccine caused narcolepsy, even doctors admitted it.
And I'm sure other vaccines will have other side effects too, they sell them for money.

If a vaccine is used in modern medicine then whatever side effects are there outweigh the dangers of not being vaccinated. Children die because of people like you. You should seriously consider what your willing to do in the name of 'fighting the system'.
sr. member
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June 27, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
#22
I'm sure vaccines make more good than bad, that's why we take them , i might be wrong, but if we didn't get vaccines for major diseases, than most of the living people would not be living anymore. If you want to risk, go ahead, keep beeing without vaccines.
hero member
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June 27, 2014, 02:20:48 PM
#21
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.
You're wrong and are going to cause people to die.

Why I am wrong?
H1N1 vaccine caused narcolepsy, even doctors admitted it.
And I'm sure other vaccines will have other side effects too, they sell them for money.
legendary
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June 27, 2014, 02:02:32 PM
#20
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.
You're wrong and are going to cause people to die.

There seems to be a slight split of opinions on vaccinations. Here's a link that everyone should visit to learn all about the topic:

http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/

Who the fuck spends that much on a domain name just to troll people? LOL Cheesy.... Oh wait, that's exactly the sort of thing I'd do if I had the money.

What is it, like $7 dollars or something to register a domain and a buck a month to host it? Tongue

Dude, that's like a whole $7 a year! What a total waste of money man!
legendary
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amarha
June 27, 2014, 01:44:34 PM
#19
There seems to be a slight split of opinions on vaccinations. Here's a link that everyone should visit to learn all about the topic:

http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/

Who the fuck spends that much on a domain name just to troll people? LOL Cheesy.... Oh wait, that's exactly the sort of thing I'd do if I had the money.

What is it, like $7 dollars or something to register a domain and a buck a month to host it? Tongue
legendary
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June 27, 2014, 12:02:47 PM
#18
There seems to be a slight split of opinions on vaccinations. Here's a link that everyone should visit to learn all about the topic:

http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/

Who the fuck spends that much on a domain name just to troll people? LOL Cheesy.... Oh wait, that's exactly the sort of thing I'd do if I had the money.
hero member
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June 27, 2014, 11:42:26 AM
#17
Maybe it's a correlation thing. Most kids with Autism Spectrum Disorder are diagnosed at around the same time that they're getting a lot of vaccines. I would just say, be aware of actually what goes into vaccines because it isn't just a weakened version of the virus. For instance, you may wish to look at this list of some common ingredients of vaccines: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vaccine-decision/ingredients.html Which is basically, if your kid is allergic to eggs or might have a bad reaction to formaldehyde or the preservative, you might want to ask your doctor what kind of alternatives there are.
legendary
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June 27, 2014, 11:37:07 AM
#16
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.

You're crazy. You can't actually be serious can you?

I assume you were immunized as a child. But are you saying that if you had kids(do you?) you wouldn't get them their shots?

Don't engage someone who refers to vaccines as poison. You aren't going to win.

hero member
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June 27, 2014, 11:35:05 AM
#15
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.

You're crazy. You can't actually be serious can you?

I assume you were immunized as a child. But are you saying that if you had kids(do you?) you wouldn't get them their shots?

I don't have kids. I wouldn't give them shots if I would have.
legendary
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amarha
June 27, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
#14
I think they do cause autism.
And even if they don't, they are poison anyway, so I'm not going to take them.

You're crazy. You can't actually be serious can you?

I assume you were immunized as a child. But are you saying that if you had kids(do you?) you wouldn't get them their shots?
legendary
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June 27, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
#13
Can you fuckers go on an island and fuck yourselves over instead of everyone else. 
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