How will AMD Vega affect GPU mining? - page 5.

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Quote from: dadesu on July 26, 2017, 03:38:22 PM

Maybe vega will be good for eth, but price is also very important, and power consumption.
If vega realy take more than 350w in dual mining mode I dont belive there will be good
way to keep card cold enought. And if 2x 1060 are faster than vega, then I think all talks
about HBM2 are pointless...

You act like you ain't heard of undervolting before...

Watchig what AMD gives lately is don good.
I think AMD lost battle with Nvidia..
with most algo NVIDIA taking the lead..
for example, with Lira2REV2 algo nobody can not optimized god miner for AMD...

No one has published one ;3

Quote from: dadesu on July 26, 2017, 04:05:20 PM

Reading tests from net about vega and cant find with low consumption and big hash.
Even if you are optimise miner very good will be imposible to have good hashrate without decent
core clocks. For example 2x 1060 have about 50m in eth and take very low power to make that speed.
Vega will hardly make that speed, and even more hard make that low power consumption.
And 2x 1060 can buy right now, and vega will be easy to buy when?
Do you understand my point?
Undervolted or not Wink

On a HEAVY compute based workload (Sia mining) - my Vega had stock volts for performance level at 1.2V. After forcing it to go no higher than 1.025V, she's stable and good.

Now, you're assuming miner optimizations for Vega are the only thing that can be done... If the only thing I could get out of a Vega card at the end of the day (say my Vega FE) - when all done, was 50MH/s, I would consider it a personal failure.

I look forward to your work and I hope that you will be able to achieve what you want. But it will be hard to realize the speed of the two 1070 (about 64m in eth) which are cheaper than one vega fe.

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Quote from: dadesu on July 26, 2017, 03:38:22 PM

Maybe vega will be good for eth, but price is also very important, and power consumption.
If vega realy take more than 350w in dual mining mode I dont belive there will be good
way to keep card cold enought. And if 2x 1060 are faster than vega, then I think all talks
about HBM2 are pointless...

You act like you ain't heard of undervolting before...

Watchig what AMD gives lately is don good.
I think AMD lost battle with Nvidia..
with most algo NVIDIA taking the lead..
for example, with Lira2REV2 algo nobody can not optimized god miner for AMD...

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Reading tests from net about vega and cant find with low consumption and big hash.
Even if you are optimise miner very good will be imposible to have good hashrate without decent
core clocks. For example 2x 1060 have about 50m in eth and take very low power to make that speed.
Vega will hardly make that speed, and even more hard make that low power consumption.
And 2x 1060 can buy right now, and vega will be easy to buy when?
Do you understand my point?
Undervolted or not Wink

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Maybe vega will be good for eth, but price is also very important, and power consumption.
If vega realy take more than 350w in dual mining mode I dont belive there will be good
way to keep card cold enought. And if 2x 1060 are faster than vega, then I think all talks
about HBM2 are pointless...

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Unvelibable... Why do you people bother so much. We will see when card will be released. No point in speculating.

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Quote from: Apneal on July 03, 2017, 03:04:36 AM

I don't understand why anyone thinks the VEGA would have ever had better ETH hashrate. It uses HMB memory. The Fury/Nano has already shown that HMB is worse for ETH but FAR better for other algorithms such as ZEC. I'm more interested in the ZEC numbers.

HMB1 and HMB2 isnt the same thing, vega should do at the end (after optimization, drivers, and overclocking) about 800-850 sols on ZEC, and about 60-70MH on eth but will cost about 600$ so...

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Quote from: daadog on July 24, 2017, 10:12:42 AM

Seems like we can agree that the AMD VEGA is overpriced and consumes too much power in comparison to how much hashpower it produces.

Sticking to the 5xx series or waiting for the mining cards seems to be the best choice as of now.

No, Just what is currently out on the market. The Vega Frontier Edition. For its current price it doesn't seem like a good choice. We'll have to wait for RX Vega in a couple of weeks to see how it pans out.

Yupp for sure. One of the problems though will be getting enough juice for it to run 6 VEGAs on 1 mobo. If 1 VEGA= 400w, 6 VEGAs= 2,4kW = you need two 1300w PSUs to be safe.

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Quote from: daadog on July 24, 2017, 10:12:42 AM

Seems like we can agree that the AMD VEGA is overpriced and consumes too much power in comparison to how much hashpower it produces.

Sticking to the 5xx series or waiting for the mining cards seems to be the best choice as of now.

No, Just what is currently out on the market. The Vega Frontier Edition. For its current price it doesn't seem like a good choice. We'll have to wait for RX Vega in a couple of weeks to see how it pans out.

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Seems like we can agree that the AMD VEGA is overpriced and consumes too much power in comparison to how much hashpower it produces.

Sticking to the 5xx series or waiting for the mining cards seems to be the best choice as of now.

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Quote from: dadesu on July 24, 2017, 12:15:37 AM

Look like vega is new amd epic fail card Sad

When the compute memory access bug on Linux gets fixed - I can't wait to use all the neat tricks I've got in store for this card, and make you and the others saying that eat your words. Tongue

I hope you are right, but the chances are very thiny Wink

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Look like vega is new amd epic fail card Sad

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Purchased some 1080 ti's middle of last month based on a sketchy report on the vega's mining ability. One reason was to not time, but ride the wave and the other reason was that since the vega appears to not to mine at it's potential out of the box, this probably adds at least a month to whatever the useful deployment time is.

For me the great unknown so far is vega tweakability. Tweakability milestones that stand out in this is the 290X 4GB with the Stilt bios and the 4XX with the right bios mods.

At this point I'm guessing that vaguega has the edge because of AMD's history of GPU upside tweakability.

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Quote from: ZenFr on July 03, 2017, 02:39:51 AM

AMD VEGA = poor hashrate and big power consumption.

The only thing tested for mining with Vega is the Frontier version, it did bad, something like 30MH/s @ 300watts OEM VBIOS. But, the FirePro Polaris series also does poorly. Both of these cards are workstation-grade and were released before the gaming consumer versions.

Saying Vega is crap when only seeing test results for the workstation/server version targeted at AI, deep-learning, neural-network data mining, is like saying the RX 470/480/580/570s are going to be crap based on the results of the AMD FirePro release.

Even before the RX 500-series was released, miners started selling the RX 400-series based on rumored architecture and estimated hashrates before anyone had test results. Those miners then paid for new 570/580s and their hashrate and power consumption didn't change.

Vega still has a chance to prove itself in mining once some RX Vegas come out. But, I wouldn't go selling all your current cards betting on Vega being "better."

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Got mine, and working on it.

looking forward your review.

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Got mine, and working on it.

can you run claymore epoch benchmark on it? ))

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Got mine, and working on it.

vega should be a dual mining beast the 1080ti and the 1070 are decent dual miners but vega should shine

with profits on individual coins dropping dusl mining might be the way to maximize hardware although half my nanos have been killed by dual mining for over a year lol

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I'm sticking to my undervolted 1070s

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lol to many noobs miner in here, vega confirmed the best gpu mining in the future, take my word and put on trash, Grin

nano 1000/500 is doing 450 sol
vega 1600/960 should be 60% faster @minimum, and they have smaller latency on memory should be good on dual mining, vega is the next true king,
power consumption well can be manage, like nano from 170 to 100 watt undervolted

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Quote from: jpouza on July 03, 2017, 03:15:36 AM

Quote from: ZenFr on July 03, 2017, 02:39:51 AM

AMD VEGA = poor hashrate and big power consumption.

It looks like it will be, with the already released Frontier version consuming almost 400W from the wall and staying bellow a 1080 nonTi, AMD just do not stop releasing crappy cards to the masses.

oh son, it looks another fury based card, hoping for vega nano, with 800sol/150w should be amazing thing, haha
i believe amd always deliver good gpu for mining

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If you look at the test Vega is sligtly faster then Fury X... it use too mutch power and even mining only ETH is drop clock by +10%!
VEGA is pure failure

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