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rdyoung

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Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 10:26:03 PM

Quote from: coinnewbit on April 10, 2014, 08:19:53 PM

Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 08:12:07 PM

it just amazes me how short-term you guys appear to be thinking...

=squeak=

Do you manually add the squeak thing after every post?

Yes... it is my signature Tongue

=squeak=

Its awesome that you could reply to that post and yet couldn't see fit to comment on more pressing matters. Do you by chance work for fox news???

rdyoung

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YAY!!!!!!!!!! We found a block, now our "luck" is a whopping 44.1%/7 days 80.0%/30 days 81.5%/90 days

Its all good folks, nothing to see here, variance will eventually adjust our way and we will be fine, gotta look long term. Don't worry about the car wreck in front of you, or the bridge that just collapsed up ahead, LOOOONNNNNGGGGG term it will all be fine.

Squeaker

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Quote from: coinnewbit on April 10, 2014, 08:19:53 PM

Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 08:12:07 PM

it just amazes me how short-term you guys appear to be thinking...

=squeak=

Do you manually add the squeak thing after every post?

Yes... it is my signature Tongue

=squeak=

rdyoung

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Quote from: coinnewbit on April 10, 2014, 09:56:37 PM

Hey squeaker don't you want your money back too? This is getting out of hand

Some information to digest.

The following address is pyraminings p2pool address, 1CzLSNz7V6EufECrjvMXBiVo8Tu7z3XgkF
Going back till the 27th when the earnings from the new hardware started to appear, we have mined 4.827 btc.
Factoring in 9 days of earnings at the last increase, we could have been earning .70btc/day for a total of 6.3btc before the last increase.
The last 5 days would have earned us another 2.87btc.

I based all this math on 7ths. If I went back to when he actually installed the new hardware this #s would likely be much larger.

To sum it up.
We have earned : 4.827btc
We COULD have earned : 9.176btc
We have LOST : 4.351 btc

Squeaker: Please explain how this scenario is OK? Its all ok because of variance?? Right??? It will all swing back and we will get that 4.351BTC back right??? I have no idea how much it costs pyramining to run the mine, but that missing 4.351btc would have gone a long way to filling the hole from the last hardware and putting money back in our digital pockets.

coinnewbit

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Hey squeaker don't you want your money back too? This is getting out of hand

rdyoung

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Quote from: coinnewbit on April 10, 2014, 08:19:53 PM

Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 08:12:07 PM

it just amazes me how short-term you guys appear to be thinking...

=squeak=

Do you manually add the squeak thing after every post?

It makes him feel special

rdyoung

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Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 08:12:07 PM

it just amazes me how short-term you guys appear to be thinking...

=squeak=

Bullshit

How is watching us lose ground with p2pool and operating at less than 100% of the standard network looking short term?
Its NOT OK to get a block every 1.5 days on average and keep losing ground with every difficulty increase.

You still haven't answered me as to what's enough for you see things differently? 1 block/payout a week? What about every 2 weeks? P2pool is losing hashing power as the network grows.

Why are you so stuck on p2pool? Why are you so vehemently against changing so that we actually make money?

The only argument you have made is variance is normal and that 5+ days between blocks is ok because variance.
I am here saying NO its not ok. Do you have any idea the # of blocks that p2pool now 163ths would have to find back2back to bring us back up to 100% earnings? Do you realize the odds of that happening now as p2pool is actually losing hashing rate.
We have cleared the last longest round time, 5d20h and counting. This is to be blunt, fucking ridiculous.

I know I repeated a couple of things but I am tired of reading your variance is ok BS argument while you ignore the reality of whats happening.

coinnewbit

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Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 08:12:07 PM

it just amazes me how short-term you guys appear to be thinking...

=squeak=

Do you manually add the squeak thing after every post?

Squeaker

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it just amazes me how short-term you guys appear to be thinking...

=squeak=

rdyoung

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Quote from: coinnewbit on April 10, 2014, 09:32:02 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 07:03:37 AM

:facepalms:

lol sorry. Its just frustrating that pyra is not getting back to us even though bitching about here is not helping

Either he is confused as to why we want a standard pool or he finally pulled his head out of the sand.
He has been arguing that 5+ days between block is ok, variance yada yada, even though we are losing ground at every difficulty change. P2pool.info shows 180ish ths. I think others see the writing on the wall.

Update: I just sent pyra a PM, he hasn't been logged in since the 31st, hopefully he will log back in sooner than later and see it.

coinnewbit

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Quote from: Squeaker on April 10, 2014, 07:03:37 AM

:facepalms:

lol sorry. Its just frustrating that pyra is not getting back to us even though bitching about here is not helping

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:facepalms:

coinnewbit

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please pyramining change to other pools

seventie

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we need another pool
no p2pool.
please do something so we get our btc

rdyoung

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Yet another 4day 9 hour round and no block found.

How this kind of spacing between blocks/payouts is ok with anyone is beyond me.
Pyramining: Can we please move a different pool/s????
Leave some with p2pool and move the rest to eligius, ghash etc.

On the 26th of march you posted that payouts could start in a few days, that was 2 weeks ago and p2pool has found 8 blocks since then.
Something has to change. P2pool has been earning 87.9% of the btc we would have earned on another standard pool.
Please do something about this.

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so any update?

rdyoung

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Quote from: inaltoasinistra on April 08, 2014, 02:28:32 AM

If he uses gbt (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate) is possible to use Eligius but keep the mining power in hand of Mr Pyramining

This is very nice and basically removes the need for p2pool.

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If he uses gbt (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate) is possible to use Eligius but keep the mining power in hand of Mr Pyramining

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Quote from: Monkey1 on April 07, 2014, 07:21:13 AM

Getting back on track, I support a move to one, or several large pools to reduce variance. I am aware of how variance works, but at this stage in the game, I would prefer regular payments rather than the possibility of 1 per week.

Also, a quick question for Pyramining. I have several chained accounts. The top two accounts are chained, with nothing above the top one. I deposited exactly the same into each account and this was held for new hardware. Now both accounts have been activated and both have the same allocated hashrate? Surely the top account should have more as it should have a percentage (either 15% or whatever has been implemented for new deposits) from the account below and the second account should have less (due to giving up 15% or whatever to the account above)?

When you previously stated that things would not change for old accounts and the rules would be published before being enacted, I assumed that the % hashrate being passed up would continue. Is this not the case?

Thank you, someone else who understands where I am coming from. I would rather give up the theorized extra BTC from p2pool to gain stability and daily if not more often payouts. Here is my thought, leave say 10ths with p2pool and split the rest between eligius, ghash and find another pool that could benefit from the hashpower boost. I add ghash because they are now only 25% of the network plus they merge nmc/dvc/ixc, if and when they get closer to 50% I would support leaving them for awhile till they drop again.

As I understand it, the bonus hashrate is not added to the account, its from the earnings from the account below.

Monkey1

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Getting back on track, I support a move to one, or several large pools to reduce variance. I am aware of how variance works, but at this stage in the game, I would prefer regular payments rather than the possibility of 1 per week.

Also, a quick question for Pyramining. I have several chained accounts. The top two accounts are chained, with nothing above the top one. I deposited exactly the same into each account and this was held for new hardware. Now both accounts have been activated and both have the same allocated hashrate? Surely the top account should have more as it should have a percentage (either 15% or whatever has been implemented for new deposits) from the account below and the second account should have less (due to giving up 15% or whatever to the account above)?

When you previously stated that things would not change for old accounts and the rules would be published before being enacted, I assumed that the % hashrate being passed up would continue. Is this not the case?

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