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Topic: [HYP] HyperStake | Generous Reward Staking | Advanced Staking Controls & Wallet - page 188. (Read 679332 times)

legendary
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Forgot about these little HYPster Hotties I had on my PC... Smiley
legendary
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Oh, I didn't know it had to be added..,  I was just wondering if a command already existed - was built in.
But thanks for the info and help!


I am happy to add it. It will probably take less than 5 minutes.

Edit - https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/commit/fd00560f27522eef841621646f41f5749db788ef
Thanks for adding this new feature of weight in listcoin rpc call. I also appreciate it.

Thanks also !!


legendary
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Oh, I didn't know it had to be added..,  I was just wondering if a command already existed - was built in.
But thanks for the info and help!


I am happy to add it. It will probably take less than 5 minutes.

Edit - https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/commit/fd00560f27522eef841621646f41f5749db788ef
Thanks for adding this new feature of weight in listcoin rpc call. I also appreciate it.
legendary
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A few more commits so far today (all taken from bitcoin)

Guard against the potential forking from the newest openSSL version - https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/commit/9cdb1371d97e2943bd2d482e0e6c9d34007b63aa

Fix memory leaks in cKey - https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/commit/a9e6659b2a2d5500ce4cc864736e56c1083043d3

Silence the useless JSON typedef build warnings - https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/commit/0937fbf186bb5d6bc0d31ab0eddf4592f36bfbdb

Also I have continued working on multi-s4c address capability. Have been able to get it to work a bit, but its all messy right now and hardcoded in there. Will hopefully clean it up and commit it with RPC capability sometime this week.
legendary
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Oh, I didn't know it had to be added..,  I was just wondering if a command already existed - was built in.
But thanks for the info and help!


I am happy to add it. It will probably take less than 5 minutes.

Edit - https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/commit/fd00560f27522eef841621646f41f5749db788ef
legendary
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Is there any command that will list your coins and their weights in the console window?

I know how to see it in coin control..  I just want to know if there is a way in console too.

Thanks. 





hmmm looks like the closest rpc call for what you want is cclistcoins


I'll have to add weight to this rpc call.

Oh, I didn't know it had to be added..,  I was just wondering if a command already existed - was built in.
But thanks for the info and help!


legendary
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Is there any command that will list your coins and their weights in the console window?

I know how to see it in coin control..  I just want to know if there is a way in console too.

Thanks. 





hmmm looks like the closest rpc call for what you want is cclistcoins


I'll have to add weight to this rpc call.
legendary
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Is there any command that will list your coins and their weights in the console window?

I know how to see it in coin control..  I just want to know if there is a way in console too.

Thanks. 





hmmm looks like the closest rpc call for what you want is cclistcoins
legendary
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It is showing 7.5 now like yesterday all of a sudden i had 7 blocks that staked.
legendary
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Yeah I think diff is just jumping up and down again Smiley
sr. member
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I also noticed recently that the diff was down to 3 to 4 for a short while recently, I believe a couple of days ago.

Is the diff history recorded somewhere? 

My diff is 8.9 currently
legendary
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Is there any command that will list your coins and their weights in the console window?

I know how to see it in coin control..  I just want to know if there is a way in console too.

Thanks. 


legendary
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I also noticed recently that the diff was down to 3 to 4 for a short while recently, I believe a couple of days ago.

Is the diff history recorded somewhere? 
legendary
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Difficulty (on 1.0.73) shows that its like 3.6, but network weight 4 billion or whatever it is. Is my wallet malfunctioning, or whats going on?

Double check that your wallet matches the block explorer and that you aren't off on a fork. There aren't any forking problems that I know of, but if your difficulty seems unusual then check it out.

I checked/repaired wallet, and I don't think I'm off blockchain, difficulty is 8.6 as of now. How do I go about to check that the wallet matches the block explorer just in case?
legendary
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Difficulty (on 1.0.73) shows that its like 3.6, but network weight 4 billion or whatever it is. Is my wallet malfunctioning, or whats going on?

Double check that your wallet matches the block explorer and that you aren't off on a fork. There aren't any forking problems that I know of, but if your difficulty seems unusual then check it out.
legendary
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HyperLoan, a wallet feature to make protected loans:
   Replace potencially risky and nonproductive faucets,givaways, and old fashion (risky) loans, all probably inherited from capitalism as patches to attempt egalitarianism, by basic protected loan transactions (loan contract + cash in exchange of some work), a new posibility emerging directly from cryptocurrency technology where property control is never fully given, the owner of the money never lose ownership.

   Loan transactions are only usable for staking purposes, and their ammount remain blocked (by network) on third party wallets prohibiting any other kind of use (sending it) while contract is active. By contract the borrower earns a custom fee after succesfully using that loan as a stake, and once the contract is over, the loan ammount plus the sustancial gain returns to the loaner. (technically a trigger based on time and proffit ammount).

   Loaner always remain as the owner of the loan, he has control. Borrower just remain being owner of a temporal staking potencial that worth investment. No hall of shame needed, no one can steal the loans, money remain network-blocked and returns in case of contract violation and maybe also at loaner's will.

   Protected Loan is a basic technology that opens endless posibilities. May be implemented based on Multisend and Trigger technologies:  loan(borrower_address, ammount, expire_date, gain_limit, [return_address1,return_fee1]...[return_addressN,return_feeN])

   Protected Loans may have multiple implementations, but what must be taken care of is incentivating the new/poor holder. For example by implementing a AutoAcceptLoanProposals feature turned on, forcing wallets to be 24/7 online, we can encourage people to stand by “onlinenely” in order to catch new loan contracts otherwise they can expire to grant some confidency to loaners wanting their money to work for them as much time as possible. I thought on this because of Matylda, the tip bot. I started staking being unable of depositing money because of a tricky bitcoin service that retain my stake-intended money for days and because I have not much money at all, so I used ##HyperStake IRC channel to earn my very first coins and knowledge. I'ts a bit sad but is fair. All what the new ones can offer to the coin is participation, involvement, time, work. I'll talk about this important point soon on the text.


    Protective measures should be taken care of, such as refusing manually or automatically to sign (agree) Loan contract requests to prevent some kind of economical attacks or invasive loans agains borrowers.

This is an interesting idea. Would require forking the coin and some well thought out code. Possible to borrow and modify the cold storage staking that will be released on PPC in the near future.
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Renting the staking potencial:
   
   Think about this 2 patches I propose here:

   Protected Loan Contracts  plus locohammerhead's idea of degrading interest rate according to balance. An inmediate posibility derived from this two feature proposal appears: Renting the staking potencial.

   Rich people in order to increase unlimitedly their wealth can be wisely pushed (via degrading interest rate, limited staking potencial), in exchange of a minimal fee (rent fee), to help poor/new people do their first stakes using their fresh new network participation (high staking potencial) as a stake investment protected natively by the network (protected loans).

   In other words, in order to became much richier by staking, rich people could just securely “rent” poor wallets at a low fee to keep making profit at high interest rates, otherwise their stakes lose profitability.

   But if you are rich or plan to be it you shouldn't be worried because there are several ways to guarrantee you will keep earning money at high interest rates, maybe not as purely as current staking posibilities but almost at the same rate while protecting the coin: HyperPools, redefined.
There is no way to categorize people by wealth.  One person != one address. I have most of my holding in two addresses, but could split between 5,000 addresses if I really wanted to in order to avoid this type of wealth discrimination.
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HyperPools, redefined:

   Direct loan from A wallet to B wallet is the atom, the native implementation, I think we can be pioneers on this. But for rich getting richier to administrate many direct loans will not be posible, or helpfull, so there is where appears a new financial entity, the molecule: HyperPools, a huge borrower entity in a form of a pool of trustable re-borrowers.

   To protect loaners from bad (non profitable) borrowers, financial entities namely HyperPools, should appear as pools filtering bad from well behaving borrowers with nice staking records. (masive loaning administrated by a financial entitiy).

   Also, a centralized (or maybe not, I preffer allways not towards equality of posibilities and coin confidence) borrower index embeded on wallet would be the perfect implementation to automate the process of finding good borrowers while keeping the posibility of rich to do solo-staking without sending money to other entities/servicies.

Incentive to gain visivility:
   
   All new users join high-POS cryptocurrencies willing to stake. All of them can't stake because of the logicall empty startup and new inversion distrust. While this was fair and logical it's neither productive, educational or marketing-positive. Most services offer trials to new users in order to let them taste the product before buying.

   Incentive at zero cost as visibility strategy campaign, that only demands joining to the network and participating (wallets unlocked for stake ) in exchange of profit, educational experience and network grow it's what I propose. Educational staking experience at zero risk for new holders, children, and even real poor people using fiat currencies. (HyperIdeology)


Equalitarian redistribution of posibilities:
   Shortening the gap between rich and poor in a moral and communitarian way not limitting the rich capacity to became richier. [equalitarian redistribution of profit posibilities] (HyperIdeology)

Out of the box incentive:
   Expands the network exponentially via incentive, at zero risk for joining. Viraly increasing currency holders with incentives provided nearly out of the box (solo loaning or masive loaning administrated by a financial entitiy).

Redefining Entities:
   Redefining central financial entities functions and demonopolizing them to provide a more confident/autonomous network.  If we want a “To the moon and much beyond” network, it's health must relay mostly over the code, not over the good will of our community. (HyperShield)

Volume allocation redistribution:
   Redistribution of currency volume across the network to prevent few wallets holding majority of the volume will be a possible because degrading stake interest rate of rich people, pushes them to continue staking but now on 3rd party wallets (because lack of staking potencial reached) using the protected loan system. If we want a “To the moon and much beyond” network, it's health should relay mostly over the code posibilities, not over the good will of the community. (HyperShield)
This would have to be something voluntary. To force redistribution would probably kill the coin, and goes against the very principal of crypto-currency, where you have ultimate and undisturbed control over your holdings.

Obviously I am the largest holder. I have attained a lot of my holdings by staking, but also grabbed a lot of coins off the market. I have purchased over 100k in the last week. Should I be penalized for that? I don't think so.  But I do enjoy voluntarily sharing my coins (mostly through tipbot rain) and am open to new voluntary ways to share coins.
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Community awareness driven by entities as last resort:
   Posibility of alt-powered staking for richs in order to bypass limited staking potencial per wallet/address may occur (at a consecuent hardware/complexity cost) without giving the network a fair chance of prosperity/protection. As an attempt on avoiding this selfish behaviour, financial entities providing high profit without loaning to third party wallets may appear, and in that case they can give loans to poor people independently of the client decission , in order to restore some health. Community awareness on entitie's hands. (HyperShield)
Make sure you aren't mixed up. There is no limit for staking per wallet. The stake limit is per stake, not per wallet.
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   Rich affecting the poor has been talked, also poor massibly refussing loan contracts in some sort of revolt may took place(oh what a crazy future), in that case they will stake by their own means, as current system works, and became affected with less gain, lose of incentive, lose confidence at loaners eyes while rich ones may subsist as clients of multi alt powerered staking entities, once again community awareness on entitie's hands would be necesary to gain some health.[/color]

Overall I like a lot of your ideas, and the thought behind them. My opinion is that we should try to keep the coin as close to the original design as possible, only adding new code to fork the coin where we absolutely need to. I am all about voluntary actions rather than forced actions that are enforced through the network (which is actually a nightmare to code too).
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We are the first to program your future (c)
Another thought: What if we burn HYP?
Then we go back in time and small wallets stake faster?
The exchange rate goes up because market cap is lower?
I have a great idea how we can compensate for burning HYP.
PM me.

This coin is designed to have big supply (restrained by inflation control), it's not an issue we should fight with. First of all, there is no guarantee that the price will skyrocket after burning (which can cause a potential security threat). But even if it does, the coin will soon regain the supply to today's level, so the price will decline again leaving new investors with massive loses. There is no difference between 1 coin @ 1000 sat and 1000 coins @ 1 sat except of the fact that in the latter example the price has reached it's absolute floor and won't drop further. We can't burn coins again and again to start from initial 2% per day when the difficulty rises substantially, it looks like cheating. There always will exist small wallets, and the whole coin ecosystem shouldn't adjust itself to them sacrificing some important things.
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I had a nice stake of 1000 HYP:
Code:
Status: 266 confirmations, broadcast through 9 nodes
Date: 1/10/2015 01:37
From: unknown
To: pUpyFwkmiqs4eaZSdNiiRP9VeqZugBsJw8 (own address, label: Crypto4Jan)
Credit: 1000.00 HYP
Net amount: +1000.00 HYP
Transaction ID: 85e1da8f590c6d8e20fe3a1cc98aa5e7823bcaf1008d14e4c4ea095eb8e61c8a
But in coin controll there is only 1 new block of 3000.99975 HYP
So is that posible that a block not split after stake?


Yes, it happens sometimes to me. Once in ~20 blocks. I think it's not a big problem. Smiley

If it takes longer than 30 days to stake, it will automatically stay as one block. Also you can tweak you split threshold using RPC commands http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ#What_is_setstakesplitthreshold_and_how_to_use_it.3F

Thanks!
I think I go setup the threshold @2500-4000 HYP.
Yesterday 3times 1000 HYP stake!

Another thought: What if we burn HYP?
Then we go back in time and small wallets stake faster?
The exchange rate goes up because market cap is lower?
I have a great idea how we can compensate for burning HYP.
PM me.
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