[HYP] HyperStake | Generous Reward Staking | Advanced Staking Controls & Wallet - page 214.

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Quote from: ntsdm on November 27, 2014, 03:05:33 AM

Quote from: billotronic on November 27, 2014, 02:00:37 AM

Quote from: ntsdm on November 27, 2014, 01:30:33 AM

Hi everyone ,
I know this will be a lame question and I will sound like a true and total noob but.....
is there any way that I can reduce the chance of a stake going bad and being not accepted? I have about 50% of my stakes that are always rejected? is this normal and im just a noob? and if I am just excuse me for starting on the wrong foot!

thanks all

1, Everyone starts off at zero
2. That is a shit ton of orphans!
F. Is it about 50? Could I trouble you for an exact ratio?
2.1 What os/hardware/a/s/l?
3. What version wallet are you using?
4. Are you doing anything stressful on said computer while staking?
5. I can't remember what five was
6. The best tech support can be had in the irc chan. This sounds strange and warrents some lookin into

ok I will do my best to answer so please bear with me...
1= noobs are noobs and in the start even adam and eve were noobs she had boobs and adam after a while figured out what to do thus....everyone else......
2= I agree that it is a shit ton and the reason I asked the question...lol
F= yes 50% on eves boobs so I get the right one
2.1= windows 7 fully updated on a acer laptop and as this noob not sure what you meen by a/s/l for me it would meen age sex and location= im 50 years old im male and in the Metro Manila area
3= 1.0.7.3 and im using the theams as a really fricking cool perk that is awesome!!!!!! GREAT JOB DEVS
4=nothing stressfull ... I cant even watch porn cuz the wifey don't want me to so im simply on the net
5= im an old fart and understand forgetting things
6= irc is a bit advanced for me and im unstable mentally at times on a chat so its best I refrain from causing issues
7 thanks for the intrest and help!

1, word
2. word
F. hmmm
2.1 That's exactly what I meant. two points (pm me your address so I can send you some love for that. I literally laughed out loud.)
3. ok. and a huge shoutout to zeewolf for the theme code! w00t w00t
4. ok
5. thanks
6. Freenode has a browser based client here. You could just use it this one time and we wont tell anyone. I swear. It's also a million times better to try and troubleshoot what's going on if someone can talk to you in real time as opposed to 'snail mail' ing it through this forum. Just sayin.
7. Don't thank me yet, I have no clue why you are getting so many orphans. I was banking on you rar'ing the internet with the client staking or something of that nature.
8. Shot in the dark, what is your CPU usage when and when you do not have mature coins?
9. What is the speed of your internet?
10. How many connections do you have?
11. Can you upload your debug.log? In win7 it should be in C:\Users\YourUserName\Appdata\Roaming\HyperStake

54. To anyone who can answer, would getstaketx show anything on an orphan? I dont have any in my history to check right now.
55. What the shit would cause that many orphans?

ntsdm

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Quote from: billotronic on November 27, 2014, 02:00:37 AM

Quote from: ntsdm on November 27, 2014, 01:30:33 AM

Hi everyone ,
I know this will be a lame question and I will sound like a true and total noob but.....
is there any way that I can reduce the chance of a stake going bad and being not accepted? I have about 50% of my stakes that are always rejected? is this normal and im just a noob? and if I am just excuse me for starting on the wrong foot!

thanks all

1, Everyone starts off at zero
2. That is a shit ton of orphans!
F. Is it about 50? Could I trouble you for an exact ratio?
2.1 What os/hardware/a/s/l?
3. What version wallet are you using?
4. Are you doing anything stressful on said computer while staking?
5. I can't remember what five was
6. The best tech support can be had in the irc chan. This sounds strange and warrents some lookin into

ok I will do my best to answer so please bear with me...
1= noobs are noobs and in the start even adam and eve were noobs she had boobs and adam after a while figured out what to do thus....everyone else......
2= I agree that it is a shit ton and the reason I asked the question...lol
F= yes 50% on eves boobs so I get the right one
2.1= windows 7 fully updated on a acer laptop and as this noob not sure what you meen by a/s/l for me it would meen age sex and location= im 50 years old im male and in the Metro Manila area
3= 1.0.7.3 and im using the theams as a really fricking cool perk that is awesome!!!!!! GREAT JOB DEVS
4=nothing stressfull ... I cant even watch porn cuz the wifey don't want me to so im simply on the net
5= im an old fart and understand forgetting things
6= irc is a bit advanced for me and im unstable mentally at times on a chat so its best I refrain from causing issues
7 thanks for the intrest and help!

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Quote from: David Latapie on September 20, 2014, 03:56:03 PM

Latapie pledge: sell 25% of your stake to HYP/XMR market

Why?

StakeHunter pledge: "sell 25% of your stake to increase liquidity". I would add: it will also encourage volume

But calculating what is 25% of your stake is difficult, except if you decide on one day and stick to this discipline every month (or week).

Fortunately, HyperSend makes it much simpler. Set Stake for Charity to 25 % and you're done. And this is as smooth as it can get, since it happens as soon as you staked, no every day/week/month. Waste and headache are kept at a minimum. Use your favourite exchange address as the destination address.

Voilà! You easily sell 25% of your stake. The actual selling, though, is not automated and this is a good thing (read Where no coin has gone before for the reasons).

I will personally do even better: I will not sell for BTC, I will sell for XMR. First because I love XMR and am a core dev there too (but this is not important for HYP), second because it will allow us to be constantly on top of the volume of the XMR market (we already are #2 #1 since last time I watched the volume), which will further increase our visibility. Consider the amount of visibility DIEM got from being the previous #1, compared to what the coin really represent. Now imagine with HYP the boost of visibility it would be.

Man that is so clever..I just saw the stake for charity in the wallet, so cool..

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Quote from: ntsdm on November 27, 2014, 01:30:33 AM

Hi everyone ,
I know this will be a lame question and I will sound like a true and total noob but.....
is there any way that I can reduce the chance of a stake going bad and being not accepted? I have about 50% of my stakes that are always rejected? is this normal and im just a noob? and if I am just excuse me for starting on the wrong foot!

thanks all

1, Everyone starts off at zero
2. That is a shit ton of orphans!
F. Is it about 50? Could I trouble you for an exact ratio?
2.1 What os/hardware/a/s/l?
3. What version wallet are you using?
4. Are you doing anything stressful on said computer while staking?
5. I can't remember what five was
6. The best tech support can be had in the irc chan. This sounds strange and warrents some lookin into

ntsdm

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Hi everyone ,
I know this will be a lame question and I will sound like a true and total noob but.....
is there any way that I can reduce the chance of a stake going bad and being not accepted? I have about 50% of my stakes that are always rejected? is this normal and im just a noob? and if I am just excuse me for starting on the wrong foot!

thanks all

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Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 02:46:17 AM

Can someone give me a good long term strategy for HYP?

Set S4C to send 25% of your stake to your Poloniex address, then every once in a while, place a sell order as you see fit. That way, you don't stress over the price and you don't kill the golden goose.
Read Latapie Pledge

Endowment will be a good reading too.

Quote from: mtwelve on November 26, 2014, 08:47:25 AM

Been on vacation guys, what I have missed? Currently in Florida for Disney Cheesy

Welcome back!

Out of HyperStake: MyMonero.com
Within HyperStake: check Slack

Oh and Project Giveaway (cycoinminer) and the draft for HyperWallet.

Quote from: ChrisLandin on November 26, 2014, 09:25:30 AM

Hey guys.

Ive just bought me a few hyp as an investment.

Im going to read the thread and take in all the info.

Glad to be onboard

Welcome ChrisLandin!

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Quote from: ChrisLandin on November 26, 2014, 09:25:30 AM

Hey guys.

Ive just bought me a few hyp as an investment.

Im going to read the thread and take in all the info.

Glad to be onboard

welcome aboard the HYPerstake enterprise!

any questions feel free to post on here or on IRC at ##hyperstake always someone on there who can answer your questions

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Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 08:50:31 AM

Quote from: Serby on November 26, 2014, 05:10:24 AM

Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 03:42:50 AM

Quote from: Serby on November 26, 2014, 03:21:39 AM

Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 02:46:17 AM

Can someone give me a good long term strategy for HYP? I am now nearly back to 30k coins just got to grab 3 more K..I started with 19k most bought at 6-8k sats, few k were bounty as well..Now I had to sell a few last week but got them nearly all back now. I was thinking to grow them to 100k if possible through staking and buying a few more then begin say taking out 30% roi from my stake and grow/ compound the other 70%..Is this idea any good? Or are there better strategies for long term growth plus turning over a profit?..

The idea is full stake, not selling at all.

But eventually you want to make your investment back slowly slowly and some monthly roi no? Say after 1 year or so get back your initial and slowly be in profit?

Consider it like a profit made on interest rates on a bank account, if you move your 30% from the wallet, it will be 19k minus the 30% staking, instead of 30% on top of your 19k. That's why those who know better never sell the profits made with their stakes. Not to mention that, after this phase where we see HYP value has stabilized, it will undergo major implementations/improvements as the devs are working hard on various projects. That means when you sell, it will probably turn out to be at a loss (considering you bought at 6-8k). Patience is the key.

PS, when the price rises, it does so fastly more than slowly, so you can hardly make up for lost time if you sold beforehand.

Thanks for the kind explanation. I am now back to my 30k HYPS so happy to let them stake for months now hopefully without touching them. Yes My Idea is to only sell from staked stakes when my account really grows..Now I understand how you put it.. Wink

Also keep in mind that we are still in a phase of max reward, so stake as much as you can.
Pick up some cheap coins and expand your stacks.

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Hey guys.

Ive just bought me a few hyp as an investment.

Im going to read the thread and take in all the info.

Glad to be onboard

qiwoman2

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Quote from: Serby on November 26, 2014, 05:10:24 AM

Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 03:42:50 AM

Quote from: Serby on November 26, 2014, 03:21:39 AM

Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 02:46:17 AM

Can someone give me a good long term strategy for HYP? I am now nearly back to 30k coins just got to grab 3 more K..I started with 19k most bought at 6-8k sats, few k were bounty as well..Now I had to sell a few last week but got them nearly all back now. I was thinking to grow them to 100k if possible through staking and buying a few more then begin say taking out 30% roi from my stake and grow/ compound the other 70%..Is this idea any good? Or are there better strategies for long term growth plus turning over a profit?..

The idea is full stake, not selling at all.

But eventually you want to make your investment back slowly slowly and some monthly roi no? Say after 1 year or so get back your initial and slowly be in profit?

Consider it like a profit made on interest rates on a bank account, if you move your 30% from the wallet, it will be 19k minus the 30% staking, instead of 30% on top of your 19k. That's why those who know better never sell the profits made with their stakes. Not to mention that, after this phase where we see HYP value has stabilized, it will undergo major implementations/improvements as the devs are working hard on various projects. That means when you sell, it will probably turn out to be at a loss (considering you bought at 6-8k). Patience is the key.

PS, when the price rises, it does so fastly more than slowly, so you can hardly make up for lost time if you sold beforehand.

Thanks for the kind explanation. I am now back to my 30k HYPS so happy to let them stake for months now hopefully without touching them. Yes My Idea is to only sell from staked stakes when my account really grows..Now I understand how you put it.. Wink

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Been on vacation guys, what I have missed? Currently in Florida for Disney Cheesy

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Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 03:42:50 AM

Quote from: Serby on November 26, 2014, 03:21:39 AM

Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 02:46:17 AM

Can someone give me a good long term strategy for HYP? I am now nearly back to 30k coins just got to grab 3 more K..I started with 19k most bought at 6-8k sats, few k were bounty as well..Now I had to sell a few last week but got them nearly all back now. I was thinking to grow them to 100k if possible through staking and buying a few more then begin say taking out 30% roi from my stake and grow/ compound the other 70%..Is this idea any good? Or are there better strategies for long term growth plus turning over a profit?..

The idea is full stake, not selling at all.

But eventually you want to make your investment back slowly slowly and some monthly roi no? Say after 1 year or so get back your initial and slowly be in profit?

Consider it like a profit made on interest rates on a bank account, if you move your 30% from the wallet, it will be 19k minus the 30% staking, instead of 30% on top of your 19k. That's why those who know better never sell the profits made with their stakes. Not to mention that, after this phase where we see HYP value has stabilized, it will undergo major implementations/improvements as the devs are working hard on various projects. That means when you sell, it will probably turn out to be at a loss (considering you bought at 6-8k). Patience is the key.

PS, when the price rises, it does so fastly more than slowly, so you can hardly make up for lost time if you sold beforehand.

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Quote from: Serby on November 26, 2014, 03:21:39 AM

Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 02:46:17 AM

Can someone give me a good long term strategy for HYP? I am now nearly back to 30k coins just got to grab 3 more K..I started with 19k most bought at 6-8k sats, few k were bounty as well..Now I had to sell a few last week but got them nearly all back now. I was thinking to grow them to 100k if possible through staking and buying a few more then begin say taking out 30% roi from my stake and grow/ compound the other 70%..Is this idea any good? Or are there better strategies for long term growth plus turning over a profit?..

The idea is full stake, not selling at all.

But eventually you want to make your investment back slowly slowly and some monthly roi no? Say after 1 year or so get back your initial and slowly be in profit?

Serby

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Quote from: qiwoman2 on November 26, 2014, 02:46:17 AM

Can someone give me a good long term strategy for HYP? I am now nearly back to 30k coins just got to grab 3 more K..I started with 19k most bought at 6-8k sats, few k were bounty as well..Now I had to sell a few last week but got them nearly all back now. I was thinking to grow them to 100k if possible through staking and buying a few more then begin say taking out 30% roi from my stake and grow/ compound the other 70%..Is this idea any good? Or are there better strategies for long term growth plus turning over a profit?..

The idea is full stake, not selling at all.

qiwoman2

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Can someone give me a good long term strategy for HYP? I am now nearly back to 30k coins just got to grab 3 more K..I started with 19k most bought at 6-8k sats, few k were bounty as well..Now I had to sell a few last week but got them nearly all back now. I was thinking to grow them to 100k if possible through staking and buying a few more then begin say taking out 30% roi from my stake and grow/ compound the other 70%..Is this idea any good? Or are there better strategies for long term growth plus turning over a profit?..

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Quote from: iantunc on November 25, 2014, 06:56:29 PM

Press, I have added an entry based on this post to the main (Introduction) section of HyperStake Wiki. Hope you don't mind

Awesome thanks for doing that!

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Quote from: presstab on November 25, 2014, 03:48:25 PM

Quote from: HappyHogan on November 25, 2014, 02:43:54 PM

I had actually checked out the thread before, but never realized this. So I read the OP and am not sure I fully understand. The money supply increases 750% per year? I can't really see how inflation is controlled in that case.

There is a maximum reward of 1,000 HYP per stake. Difficulty targets 1 block/stake per 90 seconds, this translates to 960 blocks/stake per day. This difficulty targets it quite well, as of this moment the last 960 blocks is 1.01 days. If there are 960 blocks in one day, this means that if everyone stakes the maximum amount in one day, it will be 960k HYP added per day. That is what we call "max generation" around here.

It is most likely that we never will hit a full 960k in one day, because everyone will size down there coin blocks so that they won't hit the 1k limit. As time goes on, the coin supply grows larger, yet the max reward stays the same. This means that overtime the coin supply grows less % everyday after we approach the max generation.

In the last day we have added about 610k HYP, about 63% of the maximum generation.

So the entire inflation control mechanism is based around time (long term), and a constant (max reward) becoming less and less compared to a variable (coin supply).

If we suppose that everyday from now on that max generation will occur (again this is unlikely, we are only 63% there so far), this is what the schedule of daily inflation rate will look like over the next two years.

Press, I have added an entry based on this post to the main (Introduction) section of HyperStake Wiki. Hope you don't mind

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Quote from: nioc on November 25, 2014, 05:20:44 PM

Quote from: billotronic on November 25, 2014, 04:34:35 PM

Quote from: presstab on November 25, 2014, 04:28:37 PM

Quote from: LiteBit on November 25, 2014, 04:17:02 PM

Thanks everyone. Makes sense now.
Silly question but say I've got a number of ~1600 blocks staking right now. Do the staked coins join each block once either the 1000 limit hits or 30 day limit hits (whichever happens first)?

I guess I'm asking is it an instant addition of coins to the wallet and then I need to re-calculate new blocks and repeat?

In the newest version of the wallet you can tell it what to do. It is called "splitstakethreshold" and is in the RPC commands. If you set the threshold to 1,000 (default setting in new wallet) it means that it will take your full reward and old block amount, and if it is over 2,000 HYP it will make them into two blocks. If the full amount was less than 2,000 it would combine them as one block.

So you think of the threshold number as the minimum block size it will make if it splits.

and it saves to the wallet!!!! man I LOVE that... one less thing for me to forget to do!

Except that when you restart your wallet I see no way to see if is set correctly. When you set it it says it is saving it and either you trust that it did or you do what I do and set it again when restarting the wallet.

try getstakesplitthreshold

edit - just noticed that it shows up out of order in the rpc command list Angry

Shows up as setstakesplitthreshold Sad

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Quote from: billotronic on November 25, 2014, 04:34:35 PM

Quote from: presstab on November 25, 2014, 04:28:37 PM

Quote from: LiteBit on November 25, 2014, 04:17:02 PM

Thanks everyone. Makes sense now.
Silly question but say I've got a number of ~1600 blocks staking right now. Do the staked coins join each block once either the 1000 limit hits or 30 day limit hits (whichever happens first)?

I guess I'm asking is it an instant addition of coins to the wallet and then I need to re-calculate new blocks and repeat?

In the newest version of the wallet you can tell it what to do. It is called "splitstakethreshold" and is in the RPC commands. If you set the threshold to 1,000 (default setting in new wallet) it means that it will take your full reward and old block amount, and if it is over 2,000 HYP it will make them into two blocks. If the full amount was less than 2,000 it would combine them as one block.

So you think of the threshold number as the minimum block size it will make if it splits.

and it saves to the wallet!!!! man I LOVE that... one less thing for me to forget to do!

Except that when you restart your wallet I see no way to see if is set correctly. When you set it it says it is saving it and either you trust that it did or you do what I do and set it again when restarting the wallet.

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Quote from: billotronic on November 25, 2014, 04:34:35 PM

Quote from: presstab on November 25, 2014, 04:28:37 PM

Quote from: LiteBit on November 25, 2014, 04:17:02 PM

Thanks everyone. Makes sense now.
Silly question but say I've got a number of ~1600 blocks staking right now. Do the staked coins join each block once either the 1000 limit hits or 30 day limit hits (whichever happens first)?

I guess I'm asking is it an instant addition of coins to the wallet and then I need to re-calculate new blocks and repeat?

In the newest version of the wallet you can tell it what to do. It is called "splitstakethreshold" and is in the RPC commands. If you set the threshold to 1,000 (default setting in new wallet) it means that it will take your full reward and old block amount, and if it is over 2,000 HYP it will make them into two blocks. If the full amount was less than 2,000 it would combine them as one block.

So you think of the threshold number as the minimum block size it will make if it splits.

and it saves to the wallet!!!! man I LOVE that... one less thing for me to forget to do!

Cool! I'll look in the RPC commands and fool around with it over the long weekend.

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