confused,..which is true ??
david said ''interest rate will lower drastically starting from December
presstab said ''Interest rate is not going to be lowered dramatically, it will remain the same forever. What will change is that difficulty will being to rise quicker than it is now
you are both the dev of HYP,.why different statements
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October 30, 2014, 03:17:09 AM
October 30, 2014, 12:07:26 AM
This is a crazy idea but if HYP becomes crazy popular POS "ASICS" could become a thing... I imagine tiny USB sticks or machines that connect to the internet and just stake. Basically a RASP pi, but would have to be plug and play, cheap and similar power efficiency.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
I can arange mining shares if there is interest.Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
For EnergyCoin I work together with GQM (Ryan Scott) on the NXTforum and he introduced EnergyGHZ. One share is now 35 NXT and payout weekly in ENRG. He is mining BTC. The ROI is 40 weeks now! Last payout was 100 ENRG per share or 1.1 NXT per share for NXTGHZ shares.
October 29, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
thanks for clarifying prestab i was going to say..i didnt see anywhere about the % going down ...i know the diff. will go up but thats fine haha...maybe raise the max to 2k when the diff. goes crazy? just a thought..
October 29, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
How do I get rid of HYP "dust"?
http://imgur.com/AVy4Ups (IDK how to link it, to just show the image here)
http://imgur.com/AVy4Ups (IDK how to link it, to just show the image here)
Next time you consolidate a block, just include those small inputs as well as what you'd normally use.
Any number of inputs (within reason) can be used there.
More info can be found in the tutorial from presstab:
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13257-splitting-and-combining-blocks-using-coin-control/
I try and do that, but I always get some more left over for some reason...
Hold tight and I will fix the calculations for you
I'll maybe throw out another beta or something. I haven't got all the changes I want for a full release yet, so maybe beta. HyperStake has lots of HyperBeta's lately lol 
Fixed https://github.com/presstab/HyperStake/commit/e4fe8953471f2a98e74ee2c71f8badb93296affc
October 29, 2014, 11:16:08 PM
you reminded me of something..i have NO idea if this is possible im not a programmer...i have a magic jack ...just plug an Ethernet cable into it and into the router and off u go... an asic like that would be awesome...maybe make it accessible via the I.P address on your local network...THAT would be awesome...that even uses less then a raspi (i think) its equal to charging an iphone
sure beats the 80 watt PSU in my desktop im using for staking[/quote]
Interest rate is not going to be lowered dramatically, it will remain the same forever. What will change is that difficulty will being to rise quicker than it is now. So you will either have to keep smaller blocks, or bite the bullet and use larger blocks that will stake faster and hit the ceiling. The rate is only changed for those that decide to go for the faster stake.
It may even be an option to hard fork in order to extend the maximum weight age from 30 days to 60 days or so, giving small patient blocks more time to gain weight, and thus still get full 750%.
The hardest part to predict is how fast difficulty will grow. In my own scenarios, I would estimate January or February is when difficulty will really be out of control. But it is hard to say for sure. Depends on the destruction of age, transactions, block sizes, etc.
Will be fun to watch to be honest.
October 29, 2014, 10:38:50 PM
Bummer indeed. Hopefully I can get a couple more stakes in before hand.
October 29, 2014, 10:34:27 PM
This is a crazy idea but if HYP becomes crazy popular POS "ASICS" could become a thing... I imagine tiny USB sticks or machines that connect to the internet and just stake. Basically a RASP pi, but would have to be plug and play, cheap and similar power efficiency.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
you reminded me of something..i have NO idea if this is possible im not a programmer...i have a magic jack ...just plug an Ethernet cable into it and into the router and off u go... an asic like that would be awesome...maybe make it accessible via the I.P address on your local network...THAT would be awesome...that even uses less then a raspi (i think) its equal to charging an iphone
sure beats the 80 watt PSU in my desktop im using for stakingwell that really sucks...when is it expected to go down to 100%?
October 29, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
This is a crazy idea but if HYP becomes crazy popular POS "ASICS" could become a thing... I imagine tiny USB sticks or machines that connect to the internet and just stake. Basically a RASP pi, but would have to be plug and play, cheap and similar power efficiency.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
you reminded me of something..i have NO idea if this is possible im not a programmer...i have a magic jack ...just plug an Ethernet cable into it and into the router and off u go... an asic like that would be awesome...maybe make it accessible via the I.P address on your local network...THAT would be awesome...that even uses less then a raspi (i think) its equal to charging an iphone
sure beats the 80 watt PSU in my desktop im using for staking(edit: corrected after presstab replied)
October 29, 2014, 09:42:53 PM
This is a crazy idea but if HYP becomes crazy popular POS "ASICS" could become a thing... I imagine tiny USB sticks or machines that connect to the internet and just stake. Basically a RASP pi, but would have to be plug and play, cheap and similar power efficiency.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
you reminded me of something..i have NO idea if this is possible im not a programmer...i have a magic jack ...just plug an Ethernet cable into it and into the router and off u go... an asic like that would be awesome...maybe make it accessible via the I.P address on your local network...THAT would be awesome...that even uses less then a raspi (i think) its equal to charging an iphone
sure beats the 80 watt PSU in my desktop im using for staking October 29, 2014, 09:34:01 PM
This is a crazy idea but if HYP becomes crazy popular POS "ASICS" could become a thing... I imagine tiny USB sticks or machines that connect to the internet and just stake. Basically a RASP pi, but would have to be plug and play, cheap and similar power efficiency.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
Another crazy idea is if there were "HYP Shares" People invested just BTC and you would use it to buy HYP. 5% profit every 15 days or so, and remaining 15% stake could be given to community wallet. Inspired by an idea while back that I can't recall...
Also a multipool is huge... That should be our next goal IMO.
October 29, 2014, 09:27:36 PM
I was actually considering a CrazyLoaf Project Management thread. But with most of this stuff, developers, designers, and marketers are needed. I will go ahead and make it I think
Excellent CrazyLoaf! This is exactly what we need!Alright, I'll be slinging info on this later:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crazyloafs-hyperstake-hyp-project-ideasharing-thread-840187
CrazyLoaf's HyperStake (HYP) Project Management Thread
Join the HYP machine!
October 29, 2014, 09:18:39 PM
1) by using the richlist select an amount of hype . for example those folks holding lets say, 75k or more for longer then a certain number of days gets a bonus...for instance..lets say i owned (i do not actually but for the sake of the statement) 75 k hype...ive had it in my wallet for 90+ days i could get some sort of a bonus...say maybe 1k "bonus HYP" or you could use a percentage like anyone owning over 75k+ HYP on a certain addres for continuous 90 days would receive this bonus...and then a "silver hypster" could maybe be someone who is holding 50-74,999.99 and they could get a bonus as well..and then for bronze anyone who holds 25k-49,999.99k hyp gets a bonus....and then you could always double the bonus if the balances retain the value for a consecutive 180 days...etc... this could be modified in MANY ways (the rewards, the levels, the amounts, etc)
just a thought,it would encourage people to hold the coin long term and encourage even more for people to hold on to there staking coins
2) im not sure if this exists ....if it does,then disregard this one. create a website or branch it off a website , and sell merchandise ..you might say...that costs to much..well no, not really. you could just have them made as you sell them... theres tons of sites that do this and also there are local places here that do it. id buy a HYP coffee mug or hat or shirt and i wouldnt mind waiting a few days to have it "process" (this would be the time it would take for you to get it from the manufacturer) or you could always have it made and keep it on hand, either way i think itd be good.. you have a very strong community and im sure (specially with the pictures of the HYP girls) alot of guys on here would buy stuff from you
3) this branches off of number 2. you could take the profits from the merchandise and put it into contests and development or anything else you wanted to do...or invest it in HYP loan and maybe rather then 4k move it up to 6k or 8k . this would encourage people to contribute to get the loan
4. again,this may already exist. create a video (longer then 3-5 minutes ) explaining HYP and its benefits to the community and what it can offer, id assume presstab would be the guy to do this...but any "sr. member" whose been in hyp for a while (preferably from the beginning). and put it anywhere you can...forums, trollboxes, facebook,twitter ...ANYWHERE!!! itd be good to get the word out there
these are just the finalized ideas , let me know what you think guys i have a few more ideas but i need to refine them a bit but thats what i have so far..any feedback would be great,thanks!!
One would discourage volume, I'm afraid. I prefer Stake Hunter's pledge (or Latapie Pledge): sell 25% or your stake for BTC (or for XMR). Plus telling between bought coins and stacked coins is... difficult at best.just a thought,it would encourage people to hold the coin long term and encourage even more for people to hold on to there staking coins
2) im not sure if this exists ....if it does,then disregard this one. create a website or branch it off a website , and sell merchandise ..you might say...that costs to much..well no, not really. you could just have them made as you sell them... theres tons of sites that do this and also there are local places here that do it. id buy a HYP coffee mug or hat or shirt and i wouldnt mind waiting a few days to have it "process" (this would be the time it would take for you to get it from the manufacturer) or you could always have it made and keep it on hand, either way i think itd be good.. you have a very strong community and im sure (specially with the pictures of the HYP girls) alot of guys on here would buy stuff from you
3) this branches off of number 2. you could take the profits from the merchandise and put it into contests and development or anything else you wanted to do...or invest it in HYP loan and maybe rather then 4k move it up to 6k or 8k . this would encourage people to contribute to get the loan
4. again,this may already exist. create a video (longer then 3-5 minutes ) explaining HYP and its benefits to the community and what it can offer, id assume presstab would be the guy to do this...but any "sr. member" whose been in hyp for a while (preferably from the beginning). and put it anywhere you can...forums, trollboxes, facebook,twitter ...ANYWHERE!!! itd be good to get the word out there
these are just the finalized ideas , let me know what you think guys i have a few more ideas but i need to refine them a bit but thats what i have so far..any feedback would be great,thanks!!
Two is definitely something we consider, although it requires manpower to operate it - and probably outsourcing most of it (which is not an issue, as long as it is done well).
Three is good
Four we are discussing it and we'll probably have a meeting in Paris with waxo and hegemoon (sorry press, SLC another time, promised) in late November/early December.
Presstab would it be possible to add a donation wallet I'm setting up for reddit giveaways onto the main post.
Of course, just let me know the address and I will throw it up.Some time ago, I told about the Latapie pledge: selling 25% of my stakes for for Monero (on the XMR/HYP) market. Still valid.
Some more things I'd like to share with you. I seldom buy at at sell price. Instead, I place buy orders at a round number. My previous one was at 0.02 XMR and it got eaten (pre DDOS, the buy price was at 0.013 XMR, I don't remember for BTC)
As for the block, a rich man's problem is to not have block competing with other too much. So, presstab's latest code introduced first on IRC won't work much for me, because I will have too mich block at the same blocksize at the same moment. 21000/7 would give me 7 blocks at 3000. Generated at the same moment with the same weight, they run the risk of making me hit the subsidy wall. So I stick with my manual (and time-consuming) strategy: 1 block at 3300, 1 at 3600, 1 at 3900. Experience proved me that I have too much block for 4000. Of course the fact that I had to reset my blocks because of my own stupidity some weeks influence my calculation and I should see how it goes in one month. But better safe than sorry, I will continue using this 3300/600/3900/3300 scheme.
understood...1 was kinda like an "eh" thought...after i posted i thought..."why would someone with 75k plus care about 1k? " haha oh well...out of the 4 i posted i believe 4 is the most important...simply because information will build confidence...confidence will build investors... and there u have it
as a side note: i buy and sell HYP with BTC...never was an XMR guy but ill check it out...thanks alot david
October 29, 2014, 09:11:17 PM
I was actually considering a CrazyLoaf Project Management thread. But with most of this stuff, developers, designers, and marketers are needed. I will go ahead and make it I think
Excellent CrazyLoaf! This is exactly what we need! October 29, 2014, 09:10:15 PM
I was actually considering a CrazyLoaf Project Management thread. But with most of this stuff, developers, designers, and marketers are needed. I will go ahead and make it I think
October 29, 2014, 09:07:33 PM
Presstab, I heard something about max coins per day being 960k??? Is that correct? So that is how inflation will be controlled? Also how/where can I find this information of how many coins per day? Thanks as always!!
Max stakereward = 1000 HYP / block1 block every 90 seconds
960 blocks in 86400 seconds or 24 hours.
960 × 1000 = 960.000 HYP max/day
Exactly.
Also checkout this link from the HYP wiki
http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/Max_subsidy
Plus, the two of them belong to the category inflation control: http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Inflation_control
And on the matter of the consequences of max generation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9367805
What we desperately need is a multipool, I would definitely buy a small ASIC or run my GPUs to get some HYP. This allows just another way to get into HYP while also creating volume and liquidity in the exchanges. This can be done through just asking multipools to get HYP as a payout option or the community to make one. To a lesser extent we could do something like Blackcoins black shield (whatever it's called) where buy walls are put up to help control at least a little bit of the volatility...
Desperately is strong word. But yes, this is interesting and should be part of the HyperShield initiative. I proposed it months ago and waxo and me talked about it one week ago again - and we will probably consider how to do during "HYPcon Paris", in at the end of November. By the way, any one around Paris by this time is welcomed to joinI'd also like to bring my 3 prong approach up again:
(1) Social/tipping/sharing asset -Reddit tipbots and the like
(2) Gaming asset - either marketed as a way to save a certain principal to then later gamble with the stake, or within games/gambling itself
(3) Foreign exchange asset - target Bter, Btc38, Btc-e, etc.; localization of marketing in foreign countries
It is good too. I'd say our main issue now is scalability. I predicted it but I failed to work diligently enough on t. I take full responsability on that.(1) Social/tipping/sharing asset -Reddit tipbots and the like
(2) Gaming asset - either marketed as a way to save a certain principal to then later gamble with the stake, or within games/gambling itself
(3) Foreign exchange asset - target Bter, Btc38, Btc-e, etc.; localization of marketing in foreign countries
On the bright side, I'm glad I encouraged Kushed to take maximum initative on HyperPool because now it seem to not need me at all. So I'll do the same here: I need someone to overseer the Three-pronged approach. Crazy, you told me you don't want to be that person so we need someone else and that cannot be me or presstab. So who's willing to devote some time? You won't do everything, you will gather a team, focus on what really maters and keep on going.
If you are uncertain you can do it, contact me and and we'll see.
October 29, 2014, 09:01:58 PM
I'd also like to bring my 3 prong approach up again:
(1) Social/tipping/sharing asset -Reddit tipbots and the like
(2) Gaming asset - either marketed as a way to save a certain principal to then later gamble with the stake, or within games/gambling itself
(3) Foreign exchange asset - target Bter, Btc38, Btc-e, etc.; localization of marketing in foreign countries
(1) Social/tipping/sharing asset -Reddit tipbots and the like
(2) Gaming asset - either marketed as a way to save a certain principal to then later gamble with the stake, or within games/gambling itself
(3) Foreign exchange asset - target Bter, Btc38, Btc-e, etc.; localization of marketing in foreign countries
October 29, 2014, 08:55:35 PM
1) by using the richlist select an amount of hype . for example those folks holding lets say, 75k or more for longer then a certain number of days gets a bonus...for instance..lets say i owned (i do not actually but for the sake of the statement) 75 k hype...ive had it in my wallet for 90+ days i could get some sort of a bonus...say maybe 1k "bonus HYP" or you could use a percentage like anyone owning over 75k+ HYP on a certain addres for continuous 90 days would receive this bonus...and then a "silver hypster" could maybe be someone who is holding 50-74,999.99 and they could get a bonus as well..and then for bronze anyone who holds 25k-49,999.99k hyp gets a bonus....and then you could always double the bonus if the balances retain the value for a consecutive 180 days...etc... this could be modified in MANY ways (the rewards, the levels, the amounts, etc)
just a thought,it would encourage people to hold the coin long term and encourage even more for people to hold on to there staking coins
2) im not sure if this exists ....if it does,then disregard this one. create a website or branch it off a website , and sell merchandise ..you might say...that costs to much..well no, not really. you could just have them made as you sell them... theres tons of sites that do this and also there are local places here that do it. id buy a HYP coffee mug or hat or shirt and i wouldnt mind waiting a few days to have it "process" (this would be the time it would take for you to get it from the manufacturer) or you could always have it made and keep it on hand, either way i think itd be good.. you have a very strong community and im sure (specially with the pictures of the HYP girls) alot of guys on here would buy stuff from you
3) this branches off of number 2. you could take the profits from the merchandise and put it into contests and development or anything else you wanted to do...or invest it in HYP loan and maybe rather then 4k move it up to 6k or 8k . this would encourage people to contribute to get the loan
4. again,this may already exist. create a video (longer then 3-5 minutes ) explaining HYP and its benefits to the community and what it can offer, id assume presstab would be the guy to do this...but any "sr. member" whose been in hyp for a while (preferably from the beginning). and put it anywhere you can...forums, trollboxes, facebook,twitter ...ANYWHERE!!! itd be good to get the word out there
these are just the finalized ideas , let me know what you think guys i have a few more ideas but i need to refine them a bit but thats what i have so far..any feedback would be great,thanks!!
One would discourage volume, I'm afraid. I prefer Stake Hunter's pledge (or Latapie Pledge): sell 25% or your stake for BTC (or for XMR). Plus telling between bought coins and stacked coins is... difficult at best.just a thought,it would encourage people to hold the coin long term and encourage even more for people to hold on to there staking coins
2) im not sure if this exists ....if it does,then disregard this one. create a website or branch it off a website , and sell merchandise ..you might say...that costs to much..well no, not really. you could just have them made as you sell them... theres tons of sites that do this and also there are local places here that do it. id buy a HYP coffee mug or hat or shirt and i wouldnt mind waiting a few days to have it "process" (this would be the time it would take for you to get it from the manufacturer) or you could always have it made and keep it on hand, either way i think itd be good.. you have a very strong community and im sure (specially with the pictures of the HYP girls) alot of guys on here would buy stuff from you
3) this branches off of number 2. you could take the profits from the merchandise and put it into contests and development or anything else you wanted to do...or invest it in HYP loan and maybe rather then 4k move it up to 6k or 8k . this would encourage people to contribute to get the loan
4. again,this may already exist. create a video (longer then 3-5 minutes ) explaining HYP and its benefits to the community and what it can offer, id assume presstab would be the guy to do this...but any "sr. member" whose been in hyp for a while (preferably from the beginning). and put it anywhere you can...forums, trollboxes, facebook,twitter ...ANYWHERE!!! itd be good to get the word out there
these are just the finalized ideas , let me know what you think guys i have a few more ideas but i need to refine them a bit but thats what i have so far..any feedback would be great,thanks!!
Two is definitely something we consider, although it requires manpower to operate it - and probably outsourcing most of it (which is not an issue, as long as it is done well).
Three is good
Four we are discussing it and we'll probably have a meeting in Paris with waxo and hegemoon (sorry press, SLC another time, promised) in late November/early December.
Presstab would it be possible to add a donation wallet I'm setting up for reddit giveaways onto the main post.
Of course, just let me know the address and I will throw it up.Some time ago, I told about the Latapie pledge: selling 25% of my stakes for for Monero (on the XMR/HYP) market. Still valid.
Some more things I'd like to share with you. I seldom buy at at sell price. Instead, I place buy orders at a round number. My previous one was at 0.02 XMR and it got eaten (pre DDOS, the buy price was at 0.013 XMR, I don't remember for BTC)
As for the block, a rich man's problem is to not have block competing with other too much. So, presstab's latest code introduced first on IRC won't work much for me, because I will have too mich block at the same blocksize at the same moment. 21000/7 would give me 7 blocks at 3000. Generated at the same moment with the same weight, they run the risk of making me hit the subsidy wall. So I stick with my manual (and time-consuming) strategy: 1 block at 3300, 1 at 3600, 1 at 3900. Experience proved me that I have too much block for 4000. Of course the fact that I had to reset my blocks because of my own stupidity some weeks influence my calculation and I should see how it goes in one month. But better safe than sorry, I will continue using this 3300/600/3900/3300 scheme.
October 29, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
Presstab, I heard something about max coins per day being 960k??? Is that correct? So that is how inflation will be controlled? Also how/where can I find this information of how many coins per day? Thanks as always!!
Max stakereward = 1000 HYP / block1 block every 90 seconds
960 blocks in 86400 seconds or 24 hours.
960 × 1000 = 960.000 HYP max/day
Exactly.
Also checkout this link from the HYP wiki
http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/Max_subsidy
HYPster, are you also asking how many coins are actually minted per day? if so, you can run "money supply" in the wallet's debug console
amonng others, you would see this:
"supply change(last 960 blocks)" : 513982.99980200,
"supply change(last 6,720 blocks)" : 3356545.35696700,
"supply change(last 28,800 blocks)" : 11843339.57843200,
October 29, 2014, 08:23:44 PM
DDoS.....hmm...anyway...what was the price of HYP before polo went out ? anyone know?
Around 0.00003744, I think.
It is slightly lower than that now, but the site seems fine again.
October 29, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
Presstab would it be possible to add a donation wallet I'm setting up for reddit giveaways onto the main post.
Of course, just let me know the address and I will throw it up.
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