ive got a few ideas in mind i just want to run them through my mind a bit more before i post them...ill just say this...for now...ive been in crypto only a few months (since juneish) and this is BY FAR, the best coin/idea ive EVER seen...thank you guys for all you do ill be posting soon with a few ideas, thanks!
just one quick questions, are you wanting ideas JUST for HYP loan? or for HYP in general?
Topic: [HYP] HyperStake | Generous Reward Staking | Advanced Staking Controls & Wallet - page 258. (Read 679335 times)
October 27, 2014, 09:14:29 PM
October 27, 2014, 08:14:30 PM
OK, here is an idea for those who get the HYPerloan. They have to set S4C to 10% to either the Bounty Wallet or make a new wallet for HYPerloans only to come out of. Once a month or two has passed then the HYPerloan wallet should be self sufficient and thus no other inputs needed. And once it is big enough then it can stake on its own and can thus give out even more HYPerloans. Kind of what paulsonnumismatics was saying just use S4C to achieve it.
I mean you have to pay interest on any other loan, right? So why not this one too which in turn benefits future HYPerloaners.
Making HYP and helping others at the same time. Sounds very good to me.
I like the idea (although this is still a 0% loan, only the profits are reduced). I you are increasing your chances to get a future loan I mean you have to pay interest on any other loan, right? So why not this one too which in turn benefits future HYPerloaners.
Making HYP and helping others at the same time. Sounds very good to me.
I will ask jaybeeuk to implement it in his wallet (the "S4C to HyperLoan Fund" is easier to implement than the other method, I think). The limitation is on how to verify this is actually being done - I think I will use the filters in the wallet for this.
Update: can't work with present code. I'll ask presstab if it would be difficult to add a code for "only from a given address", so that you do not send to HyperLoan Fund your stake from other addresses than HyperLoan. I think that should be a trigger and I added it as an example use on HyperStake Wikia - Triggers (look for "HyperLoan autofunding").
It looks like an edge case at first, but the you realise that it starts to render the use of a multi-wallet (HBN) less useful. Considering the heavy memory and CPU footprint of multi-wallet, this is quite interesting.
You don't lose the benefit of your contribution, HYPster
October 27, 2014, 07:51:58 PM
I found an error in the cryptocoinexplorer for Hyp.
For a while I had the idea that my balance was off, comparing the online cryptocoinexplorer reporting
with my wallet balance. So, today I went ahead and dug through all the entries in my wallet and
suddenly I saw the difference: One on my staked amounts was identical to the difference.
So, I went to the different explorers and indeed, the cryptocoinexplorer appeared to have stored an orphan block,
because it is different from the entries in the two other HYP explorers. That also explains the lower balance on
cryptocoinexplorer than my wallet shows. You can see the orphan block here: http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=117548
I have no idea if that is the only orphan or that the cryptocoinexplorer's block chain has more.
You can find them if you notice a difference in balance, then search your transaction list for that value, then find the
block number of that transaction and verify if you see your transaction in the explorer on that block nr or not.
For a while I had the idea that my balance was off, comparing the online cryptocoinexplorer reporting
with my wallet balance. So, today I went ahead and dug through all the entries in my wallet and
suddenly I saw the difference: One on my staked amounts was identical to the difference.
So, I went to the different explorers and indeed, the cryptocoinexplorer appeared to have stored an orphan block,
because it is different from the entries in the two other HYP explorers. That also explains the lower balance on
cryptocoinexplorer than my wallet shows. You can see the orphan block here: http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=117548
I have no idea if that is the only orphan or that the cryptocoinexplorer's block chain has more.
You can find them if you notice a difference in balance, then search your transaction list for that value, then find the
block number of that transaction and verify if you see your transaction in the explorer on that block nr or not.
I have reported this to CCE. I am guessing the block got put into the database right away, so when it reorganized to the correct chain it did not overwrite the existing block.
October 27, 2014, 07:47:37 PM
what can increase our odds of winning just activity and posts?
I'm glad you asked, because I want the community to choose in the future, not me.First, you should have a minimum of 100 posts. This is not mandatory and is meant to deter sockpuppets. If you prove your involvement, even by only being on IRC, you could get nominated.
Second, try to give an good idea that benefit either HyperLoan alone or the whole of HyperStake (the coin, the community, or both). paulsonnumismatics's idea significantly increased his chances to be the next nominee and kawa900jc's idea too.
There are probably other complementary directions, though.
My address: pD3ME8QQTYTB2eFDzYSxUtJ5FB3jjzaSTE
October 27, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
I have implemented paulsonnumismatics's idea
Now, block 1, 2 et 3 will stake. Block 1 won't have time to stake before being sent to someone else. But block 2 and 3 could very well stake.
It will be difficult to keep track of the stake after a while, since the break the original block, but I'm sure we will find a way.
Now, block 1, 2 et 3 will stake. Block 1 won't have time to stake before being sent to someone else. But block 2 and 3 could very well stake.
It will be difficult to keep track of the stake after a while, since the break the original block, but I'm sure we will find a way.
October 27, 2014, 07:26:01 PM
I found an error in the cryptocoinexplorer for Hyp.
For a while I had the idea that my balance was off, comparing the online cryptocoinexplorer reporting
with my wallet balance. So, today I went ahead and dug through all the entries in my wallet and
suddenly I saw the difference: One on my staked amounts was identical to the difference.
So, I went to the different explorers and indeed, the cryptocoinexplorer appeared to have stored an orphan block,
because it is different from the entries in the two other HYP explorers. That also explains the lower balance on
cryptocoinexplorer than my wallet shows. You can see the orphan block here: http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=117548
I have no idea if that is the only orphan or that the cryptocoinexplorer's block chain has more.
You can find them if you notice a difference in balance, then search your transaction list for that value, then find the
block number of that transaction and verify if you see your transaction in the explorer on that block nr or not.
For a while I had the idea that my balance was off, comparing the online cryptocoinexplorer reporting
with my wallet balance. So, today I went ahead and dug through all the entries in my wallet and
suddenly I saw the difference: One on my staked amounts was identical to the difference.
So, I went to the different explorers and indeed, the cryptocoinexplorer appeared to have stored an orphan block,
because it is different from the entries in the two other HYP explorers. That also explains the lower balance on
cryptocoinexplorer than my wallet shows. You can see the orphan block here: http://hyp.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=117548
I have no idea if that is the only orphan or that the cryptocoinexplorer's block chain has more.
You can find them if you notice a difference in balance, then search your transaction list for that value, then find the
block number of that transaction and verify if you see your transaction in the explorer on that block nr or not.
October 27, 2014, 06:59:39 PM
what can increase our odds of winning just activity and posts?
I'm glad you asked, because I want the community to choose in the future, not me.First, you should have a minimum of 100 posts. This is not mandatory and is meant to deter sockpuppets. If you prove your involvement, even by only being on IRC, you could get nominated.
Second, try to give an good idea that benefit either HyperLoan alone or the whole of HyperStake (the coin, the community, or both). paulsonnumismatics's idea significantly increased his chances to be the next nominee and kawa900jc's idea too.
There are probably other complementary directions, though.
OK, here is an idea for those who get the HYPerloan. They have to set S4C to 10% to either the Bounty Wallet or make a new wallet for HYPerloans only to come out of. Once a month or two has passed then the HYPerloan wallet should be self sufficient and thus no other inputs needed. And once it is big enough then it can stake on its own and can thus give out even more HYPerloans. Kind of what paulsonnumismatics was saying just use S4C to achieve it.
I mean you have to pay interest on any other loan, right? So why not this one too which in turn benefits future HYPerloaners.
Making HYP and helping others at the same time. Sounds very good to me.
October 27, 2014, 06:43:22 PM
what can increase our odds of winning just activity and posts?
I'm glad you asked, because I want the community to choose in the future, not me.First, you should have a minimum of 100 posts. This is not mandatory and is meant to deter sockpuppets. If you prove your involvement, even by only being on IRC, you could get nominated.
Second, try to give an good idea that benefit either HyperLoan alone or the whole of HyperStake (the coin, the community, or both). paulsonnumismatics's idea significantly increased his chances to be the next nominee and kawa900jc's idea too.
There are probably other complementary directions, though.
October 27, 2014, 06:36:00 PM
what can increase our odds of winning just activity and posts?
Didn't they say it was random?
October 27, 2014, 06:34:55 PM
what can increase our odds of winning just activity and posts?
October 27, 2014, 05:29:37 PM
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So, with no further ado, the first nominee for HyperLoan is... jaybeeuk
Amazing ! Thank you so much - this is brilliant. I will make sure I keep you all posted and will normally be around on this post or the IRC channel for questions ! Here is my address : pLiXwqHyKHY9WMPJcaCrADs3A99UNJDFLH
October 27, 2014, 06:27:59 PM
HyperLoan round 2 candidates so far (+x is the number or unsuccessful round - the more you have, the higher your chances) :
I would like to avoid FIFO nomination (first arrived, first served) because it is unfair and doesn't reflect the involvement - jaybeeuk was chosen on his introduction - I liked this "per aspera ad astra" story of him.
- +1 crypto4jan
- +1 jaybeeuk (introduction)
- +1 HYPster
- +1 freedomsr40
- +1 awangn6600
- +1 okae
- +1 Butoeskor
- +1 paulsonnumismatics
- +1 Prints_ (on IRC)
- +1 eatthetree3
- kronicblazer (on IRC)
- checkpoints16 (on IRC)
- blitz78 (on IRC)
- coinmaster222
I would like to avoid FIFO nomination (first arrived, first served) because it is unfair and doesn't reflect the involvement - jaybeeuk was chosen on his introduction - I liked this "per aspera ad astra" story of him.
I would like to sign up for the 2º round hyperloan, see if I'm lucky. Thanks
October 27, 2014, 06:17:33 PM
How to increase your chances:
- Every week, you get a +1
- Contributions give you an edge. This is subjective, you could win above a +10 with an excellent contribution
- Being recognized as active or worthy by the community
- Other?
How to decrease your chances:
- Having less than 100 posts at the time registering will get a -1
Candidates:
- +1 crypto4jan
- +1 HYPster (contribution #1) (contribution #2)
- +1 freedomsr40
- +1 awangn6600
- +1 okae
- +1 Butoeskor
- +1 paulsonnumismatics (contribution #1) (contribution #2 - microhyperloaning customers)
- +1 Prints_ (on IRC)
- +1 eatthetree3
- +1 kawa900jc (contribution)
- kronicblazer (on IRC)
- checkpoints16 (on IRC)
- blitz78
- coinmaster222
- mailmansDOGE
- worhiper_-_
- -1 semidead (56 posts)
- johan11 (via PM)
- wickedsick
- kliown (on IRC)
I would like to avoid FIFO nomination (first arrived, first served) because it is unfair and doesn't reflect the involvement - jaybeeuk was chosen on his introduction - I liked this "per aspera ad astra" story of him.
What you, as a nominee (not just a candidate) will have to do:
1. Create a dedicated address in your wallet and post it on the forum, so that anyone can track the progress. If you don't know how to do so, just ask on the forum
2 Once you have received the 4K HYP, you will start posting on HyperLoan logs about your feedback. It can be just one posts several posts tracking your increasing understanding of HyperStake, questions... and of course, everyone can post there too.
3. At the end of the 30 days, you will send the principal (4k) back to the originating address pHypLoanFPWT6awN1TYRQ4v3wD3yY1n8KT (courtesy of iDunk).
Happy loaning, happy stacking!
October 27, 2014, 05:22:11 PM
Just received my first 1000.0 stake 
October 27, 2014, 05:17:56 PM
Congratulations jaybeeuk! The first contestant. Very good indeed.
David, maybe you can just set the rules for participants to the time/day they entered. Not really a good way to select candidates, however, most people know of this now so they can get in line behind those candidates that have already applied. Or will the pool of candidates "stake" and have a "candidate weight"? LOL. Kinda funny if you did it this way....might add a little fun to the mix. Just a suggestion as either way will get the job done and it is a very good plan!
David, maybe you can just set the rules for participants to the time/day they entered. Not really a good way to select candidates, however, most people know of this now so they can get in line behind those candidates that have already applied. Or will the pool of candidates "stake" and have a "candidate weight"? LOL. Kinda funny if you did it this way....might add a little fun to the mix. Just a suggestion as either way will get the job done and it is a very good plan!
LOL at the Staking Queue for a HyperLoan !
When i see something great it just clicks on my head. And this did. Presstab, David, please take this idea into consideration.
HYP community will be the only one in cryptoland that welcomes interested newcomers or members alike in a queued wheel of wellness!
Of course some rules should apply, non-BTCT newbies or negative feedback accepted, etc, but this can be potentially great!
Even the system could be self-sustainable. Example. David said he will commit 16K to this, 4 batches of 4K if i understood well.
We can do:
1st batch-1st in line
2nd batch-2nd in line
3rd batch-3rd in line
4th batch-Own staking to "HyperLoan Fund": it gives about 2500 extra HYP
5th Batch- 4th in line (funded with the 1st in line HYP back)
6th Batch- 5th in line (funded with the 2nd in line HYP back)
7th Batch - 6th in line (funded with the 3nd in line HYP back)
8th Batch - Hyperloan Fund - the 6500 HYP stakes up to about 10,500 HYP (according to WebMath.com haha)
9th Batch - 7th in line, with funds from 4th...
10th Batch - 8th in line with funds from 5th..
11th Batch - 9th in line with funds form 6th...
12th Batch - 10th in line with Funds from Hyperloan! 2500 are back to original donors of the experiment, and 4000 stake again to create 2500 more!
And so on... In three months, the Hyperloan is starting to return the original donor funds, while mantaining a nice surplus to cover any possible fraud from any of those first 12 candidates. This rotation can be endless!
This is just some idea... Discuss?
October 27, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
i didnt win 
October 27, 2014, 04:58:15 PM
I think that certain people might feel a little threatened that some people that aren't part of what I and a few others call "the old guard", are coming together, asking what users want, and coding it.
"If you want to make ennemies, try to change something." - Woodrow Wilson (and DXHR)"No one attacks shitcoin" - Cryptoland saying
"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - Friedrich Nietzsche
http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ
Yes, I am thinking all this fud is due to other devs being quite lazy. Now that they actually have to put time and effort into a coin and not copy/paste they are upset. Misery loves company so that is why the fud is coming in. They see happiness in the HYP world, are jealous, and instead of being a good sport about it all, go to extreme lengths to create fud. If they put that much time and energy into a coin then it just might do ok. Just remember complainers get nothing/nowhere, and doers get all the girls!!! LOL.
Keep up the good work Press and David! I wouldn't even bother worrying about this nonsense. Maybe read it for a good laugh as that is all it is good for in the end.
October 27, 2014, 04:51:33 PM
Congratulations jaybeeuk! The first contestant. Very good indeed.
David, maybe you can just set the rules for participants to the time/day they entered. Not really a good way to select candidates, however, most people know of this now so they can get in line behind those candidates that have already applied. Or will the pool of candidates "stake" and have a "candidate weight"? LOL. Kinda funny if you did it this way....might add a little fun to the mix. Just a suggestion as either way will get the job done and it is a very good plan!
David, maybe you can just set the rules for participants to the time/day they entered. Not really a good way to select candidates, however, most people know of this now so they can get in line behind those candidates that have already applied. Or will the pool of candidates "stake" and have a "candidate weight"? LOL. Kinda funny if you did it this way....might add a little fun to the mix. Just a suggestion as either way will get the job done and it is a very good plan!
October 27, 2014, 04:22:23 PM
No worries 
I'm not going anywhere. Well, my HYP aren't anyway.
On another note, any idea who Hypnotique is? Well spoken, but the thread and account were clearly created as an attack. Sorry I got caught up in it, but after over a year of Spoetnik's crap, I was provoked. Got it out of my system now. Only thing I agreed with them on was the short notice on launch. I believe I said so at the time It worked out as far as I'm concerned.
And lastly congrats to Jaybeeuk! Keep us posted, eh?
I'm not going anywhere. Well, my HYP aren't anyway. On another note, any idea who Hypnotique is? Well spoken, but the thread and account were clearly created as an attack. Sorry I got caught up in it, but after over a year of Spoetnik's crap, I was provoked. Got it out of my system now. Only thing I agreed with them on was the short notice on launch. I believe I said so at the time
It worked out as far as I'm concerned. And lastly congrats to Jaybeeuk! Keep us posted, eh?
I have my suspicions. I have a buddy that who works for a company that makes A LOT of money from their world renowned author recognition software. I may just have him run a few of my suspicions through the software.. If I care enough.
Honestly it seems a bit suspicious that all of the other PoS devs that have been dormant for months, are now all of a sudden active, and also posting alongside certain trolls. I think those lazy devs that do nothing more than copy NovaCoin commits line for line, are a bit jealous that original work is being put into a wallet by multiple people, not just me. Honestly it blows me away that some of these have never been paid attention to.
For example I just added this commit: https://github.com/presstab/HyperStake/commit/8d9502496b47f75b23f6c53c19007db43c9d1954
It adds the ability to export each block and its corresponding difficulty to a .csv file, something that is obviously useful for all who want it.
It was literally this easy:
Code:
Value exportdifficulty(const Array& params, bool fHelp)
{
if (fHelp || params.size() < 1 || params.size() > 2)
throw runtime_error(
"export difficulty\n"
"interval will give difficulty for every Xth block\n"
"directory is the location to export the csv: C:\\example.csv)");
int nInterval = params[0].get_int();
std::string strDir = params[1].get_str();
ofstream File;
File.open(strDir.c_str());
File << "Block, Difficulty" << endl;
for(int i = 0; i < nBestHeight; i += nInterval)
{
File << i;
File << ",";
File << GetDifficulty(FindBlockByHeight(i)) << endl;
}
File.close();
return "succesfully exported";
I think that certain people might feel a little threatened that some people that aren't part of what I and a few others call "the old guard", are coming together, asking what users want, and coding it.
Thats my best guess. But FUD never really ever makes complete sense to me. It would have made more sense to have a coding "arms race" between competing coins rather than a FUD storm.
I think I've been hanging around you too long
I almost understand that. If it were me, I'd probably just let it lie. He made his points, and got a reaction. I think he failed in his aims if they were anything more than that. As I said, he was well spoken. Unusual for a troll.
And I agree with the arms race. Like I said there, I think that all of these ideas and implementations will eventually coalesce into something fantastic. A lot of coins got nothin', however they were launched, and some that get no attention are surprisingly innovative. Bitcoin is king because it was there first. At this time, almost every alt has some technical advantage over bitcoin. Sooner or later, that will be noticed. The ones that break through will probably surprise all of us.
@Billotronic, I have been irritated by Spoetnik for most of my time on BCT, but left it be. Sometimes he's right, and maybe he does mean well, but his style is guaranteed to make enemies, and his opening salvo is always an ad hominem. That indicates that he has no argument and knows it, or that he's mentally unstable. I'm leaning toward the latter.
October 27, 2014, 04:20:57 PM
I think that certain people might feel a little threatened that some people that aren't part of what I and a few others call "the old guard", are coming together, asking what users want, and coding it.
"If you want to make ennemies, try to change something." - Woodrow Wilson (and DXHR)"No one attacks shitcoin" - Cryptoland saying
"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - Friedrich Nietzsche
http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/FUD_FAQ
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