Why is the price going down?
I am guessing it is some of the people that bought in a week ago that just got their stakes are selling out. The market is still trying to decide what HYP is worth.
Topic: [HYP] HyperStake | Generous Reward Staking | Advanced Staking Controls & Wallet - page 346. (Read 679350 times)
July 16, 2014, 05:41:00 PM
I am guessing it is some of the people that bought in a week ago that just got their stakes are selling out. The market is still trying to decide what HYP is worth.
July 16, 2014, 05:13:42 PM
Why is the price going down?
July 16, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone who answered before about staking....
So, today, my wallets (I split them onto 2 PC's) staked, and I received blocks of around 360 HYP's - which is great.
Now, when I look at the twin axes in the bottom right of the wallet, they state that "not minting because you don't have mature coins".
Is that to be expected?
Do I now have to wait another 9 days before the next batch of staked coins are mined? Or should I be doing something else to help them along?
Thanks in advance
So, today, my wallets (I split them onto 2 PC's) staked, and I received blocks of around 360 HYP's - which is great.
Now, when I look at the twin axes in the bottom right of the wallet, they state that "not minting because you don't have mature coins".
Is that to be expected?
Do I now have to wait another 9 days before the next batch of staked coins are mined? Or should I be doing something else to help them along?
Thanks in advance
It's nine days (min) per block. If you have more blocks that haven't staked yet, they will get there. The coins that just staked, both the original and the newly minted, are reset to zero for the maturity period. If that's all you have, then yes, it's another nine days. Nothing will help them along. Coin control just helps you organize the blocks into (your) optimum configuration.
July 16, 2014, 02:28:36 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone who answered before about staking....
So, today, my wallets (I split them onto 2 PC's) staked, and I received blocks of around 360 HYP's - which is great.
Now, when I look at the twin axes in the bottom right of the wallet, they state that "not minting because you don't have mature coins".
Is that to be expected?
Do I now have to wait another 9 days before the next batch of staked coins are mined? Or should I be doing something else to help them along?
Thanks in advance
So, today, my wallets (I split them onto 2 PC's) staked, and I received blocks of around 360 HYP's - which is great.
Now, when I look at the twin axes in the bottom right of the wallet, they state that "not minting because you don't have mature coins".
Is that to be expected?
Do I now have to wait another 9 days before the next batch of staked coins are mined? Or should I be doing something else to help them along?
Thanks in advance
July 16, 2014, 01:59:22 PM
Is this why my pathetic little stash went from time to stake of 8 hours to 27 days over night? (I'm working on more acquisitions, not really worried. This is a technical/curiousity question)
You're furthering my education by quite a bit here
I'm going to have to learn to code. It has become imperative to my obsessive brain 
You're furthering my education by quite a bit here
I'm going to have to learn to code. It has become imperative to my obsessive brain Probably - the combination between much higher network stake weight and the high difficulty. I find it so interesting to look at the technicals.
July 16, 2014, 01:36:29 PM
A graph of difficulty over time:
Is this why my pathetic little stash went from time to stake of 8 hours to 27 days over night? (I'm working on more acquisitions, not really worried. This is a technical/curiousity question)
You're furthering my education by quite a bit here
I'm going to have to learn to code. It has become imperative to my obsessive brain July 16, 2014, 01:17:33 PM
A graph of difficulty over time:
I AM POSTING MORE CHARTS HERE: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13427-hyperstake-charts-technical-analysis/
I AM POSTING MORE CHARTS HERE: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13427-hyperstake-charts-technical-analysis/
July 16, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
presstab: I am going to start it off with 14,428 HYP and we will see what it turns into.
July 16, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
Started a staking journal. Its going to be fun to watch, I am entering everything into excel so that I can use charts and run numbers on everything.
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13421-presstabs-staking-journal-14428-hyp-start/
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13421-presstabs-staking-journal-14428-hyp-start/
July 16, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
The low priority coin automatically selected is not working,
i made a transfer yesterday and i had a enough balance and messed up 2 blocks that were about to stake and their weight now is zero and didn't stake.
i made a transfer yesterday and i had a enough balance and messed up 2 blocks that were about to stake and their weight now is zero and didn't stake.
I will look into this. Coin control is something that was published to the crypto community and then ported over to each coins wallet. This is the default logic of coin control, but it doesn't select them solely based on confirmations, there is an extra size parameter in there too. I will do some digging. Thanks for reporting this.
Thank you and so far i am loving this
July 16, 2014, 09:45:10 AM
The low priority coin automatically selected is not working,
i made a transfer yesterday and i had a enough balance and messed up 2 blocks that were about to stake and their weight now is zero and didn't stake.
i made a transfer yesterday and i had a enough balance and messed up 2 blocks that were about to stake and their weight now is zero and didn't stake.
I will look into this. Coin control is something that was published to the crypto community and then ported over to each coins wallet. This is the default logic of coin control, but it doesn't select them solely based on confirmations, there is an extra size parameter in there too. I will do some digging. Thanks for reporting this.
July 16, 2014, 05:10:10 AM
The low priority coin automatically selected is not working,
i made a transfer yesterday and i had a enough balance and messed up 2 blocks that were about to stake and their weight now is zero and didn't stake.
i made a transfer yesterday and i had a enough balance and messed up 2 blocks that were about to stake and their weight now is zero and didn't stake.
July 16, 2014, 04:09:20 AM
Just wondering why the icon stake weight and what's listed in the columns in coin control are seemingly not correlated? I actually think the icon calculation is correct because even though no stake shows up in the weight column I did get stake and the icon reports that I'm staking, correctly. Shouldn't I be able to add up all weight in the column to the same total as what it shows in the icon popup for my weight?
July 16, 2014, 03:21:53 AM
Community Update
Things are picking up. We're focusing on letting the blockchain move organically rather than
turning to more extreme options like POW or hard fork. Patience is paying off
We may get some bounties going soon. If you have suggestions let me know, details will follow.
Presstab and David have asked that requests for new features be directed here so they can be easily found
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/13358-wallet-feature-requests/
Don't forget to request HYP at other exchanges. We have approachable, unmasked devs and a great little community.
There are lots of reasons to be excited about HYP.
https://poloniex.com/coinRequest
https://c-cex.com/?id=vote#suggest
[email protected] make sure to link our bitcointalk thread with your coin request.
If you are on Twitter, help HYP get noticed. Tweet #hyperstake as well.
https://twitter.com/BittrexExchange
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The irc is always open and it's usually raining HYP! Join us on freenode at ##hyperstake
July 15, 2014, 11:32:39 PM
the excellent portfolio manager coinreporting.com (I use it myself) just added HYP!
July 15, 2014, 07:42:26 PM
I'll give it a shot.
1st off, it is automatic. If you are open, unlocked, connected, and in sync, it will happen.
However you can get a better idea of when it's going to stake by looking at the little tab at the bottom (mining symbol in the prerelease, I think a green arrow now, but I'm not at the right computer) and hover over it. It will show you estimated time to stake (wildly inaccurate on EVERY PoS coin) and your stake weight vs. network weight.
As I understand it, and presstab/others feel free to correct me, difficulty can't readjust until a block is found. Given how long it's taking, it will probably adjust rather severely this time 'round. Once it does, the next few blocks eligible for stake should go fairly quickly. If they go TOO quickly, there will be more long rounds. So it's a good idea to use coin control to aggregate your blocks in a staggered fashion. I was late to the game on this coin (as in I'd already purchased a bunch of TEK when I found out about it) so I've only got one block right now of seventyish coins. But those of you with large numbers, please consider staggering your blocks over a several day period. You'll initially lose some coin maturity doing this, but that should average out fairly quickly. There are two plus sides to doing this. One, you'll have something staking every day, and two, if the majority of us do this, the blockchain will move at a much steadier and predictable pace.
I fully agree, a spread of blocks of coins, regardless of the size is great.
-gives steady reward over time
-helps the network being stable and healthy
EDIT :
Maybe a good idea to hard code "spread" for coins being staked into the wallet ?
Doing so could avoid POW...
I don't like the idea of creating code that will destroy age. But I do think if someone wants to purposefully spread out their buys and send HYP to their wallet everyday then that would be a good thing.
And yes I would really like to avoid PoW. It is a last resort. But I use it to let everyone know that there is never a reason to be worried, there are always ways out of a stuck chain.
July 15, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
I'll give it a shot.
1st off, it is automatic. If you are open, unlocked, connected, and in sync, it will happen.
However you can get a better idea of when it's going to stake by looking at the little tab at the bottom (mining symbol in the prerelease, I think a green arrow now, but I'm not at the right computer) and hover over it. It will show you estimated time to stake (wildly inaccurate on EVERY PoS coin) and your stake weight vs. network weight.
As I understand it, and presstab/others feel free to correct me, difficulty can't readjust until a block is found. Given how long it's taking, it will probably adjust rather severely this time 'round. Once it does, the next few blocks eligible for stake should go fairly quickly. If they go TOO quickly, there will be more long rounds. So it's a good idea to use coin control to aggregate your blocks in a staggered fashion. I was late to the game on this coin (as in I'd already purchased a bunch of TEK when I found out about it) so I've only got one block right now of seventyish coins. But those of you with large numbers, please consider staggering your blocks over a several day period. You'll initially lose some coin maturity doing this, but that should average out fairly quickly. There are two plus sides to doing this. One, you'll have something staking every day, and two, if the majority of us do this, the blockchain will move at a much steadier and predictable pace.
I fully agree, a spread of blocks of coins, regardless of the size is great.
-gives steady reward over time
-helps the network being stable and healthy
EDIT :
Maybe a good idea to hard code "spread" for coins being staked into the wallet ?
Doing so could avoid POW...
July 15, 2014, 04:46:08 PM
I just staked a bunch of blocks
Yep I just saw my big block orphan twice! Turned off my client to save up a large stake weight for the next lul.
We are back in action... and surprisingly the block that got the hash was only 48.81 HYP and was 10.92 days old.
July 15, 2014, 04:35:22 PM
I just staked a bunch of blocks
July 15, 2014, 03:27:09 PM
Well, presstab, it's probably time to implement that shorter period code Seems it's still locking up.
Seems it's still locking up. Unless something is bugged out, there's no reason for a hard fork. We should give it more time. Hard forks are srs business, plus, you have to wait for everyone to upgrade anyways.
I think we should wait for a bit and see if we get a block. If we don't then we can fork and it will be no problem. It is also an option to add PoW back to make sure we always have transactions processing.
So just know there is nothing to be worried about... if we are stuck then we will fork and be back up and running. But I don't think we are stuck. We just need some blocks to create good weight.
Also I am thinking about implementing NovaCoin Fast Stake immediately (doesn't require fork). I think it might enable us to hash faster.
Tell me more!
It always seemed to me there should be some way other than JUST solving blocks to get the chain retargeted if it's being slow.
Well here is the formula:
Code:
hash(nStakeModifier + txPrev.block.nTime + txPrev.offset + txPrev.nTime + txPrev.vout.n + nTime) < bnTarget * nCoinDayWeight
So you are hashing a bunch of things together like the transaction time, stake modifier, current time, etc and the goal is to get a hash that is less than the difficulty target multiplied by your coin weight. So naturally the longer you wait, the higher the stake weight will be and therefore the easier it will be to get a hash that meets the requirement.
So that is why at a time like now, having a bunch of small blocks with weight is not as good as one big block with weight. The big block has a much higher chance of staking sooner.
If this continues to be a problem in the future (which I think won't be a problem after another week) then we could hardfork and eliminate the PoW restriction and open it back up. That way if we are waiting for a stake block to come in, the chain will still move transactions.
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