Topic: I caught someone cheating in auction - page 2. (Read 4269 times)

Alert the bidders and leave a PSA. If you can prove that these two guys are one and the same, I believe they deserve a negative rep or at least a neutral rep from DT.

Guys, the big problem here (for me), is that you are judging and asociating me to ponzi operations and scammers.
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As I said, there's public info about me in internet, due my participation in different forums (technology and business related).

Then, the point is that any victim of these guys (ponzi : betterangels/kaykawa) can easily start demand or call the police, due your "supposition".

I was the previous owner of these accounts (I received it from collateral, loans) in 2014 (The proof is above, and in the other pages), after some months I sold them. (escrow quotes and signed mesages).

My only ¿"crime"? here was use it to make '1' bid in my own auction (I did it, it's true) and claim a second time one of the "bipolarbob' giveaway.

I need to be judged for that, i'm consient (I did it, it was my fault, It were my first "steps" in this crypto-world)
And I need to be penalized just for that, nothing more.

example:

If you receive a car from a defaulted loan, you use it a few months, after that you sell it.... and in the next year the "car" is asociated to a "murder"/crime, and the people start searching the murderer/autor, and incriminate you.

What are you going to do?
Of course, show proofs that you sold the car (In this case escrow quoted and signed messages)
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Give the info about the "buyer". (I did it too).

Then?.

What more did you need?.

As I said, first resolve this missurdestanding, and after that we can talk about the other things.

This is very important for me.

A little off topic but may I suggest maintaining a diary, so you can keep track of which account you sold to whom using which alt. It'll help you achieve more success in this profession.


I am sorry about that, I can see how that must have caused inconvenience for you when you tried to sell your main account. even though you left me negative trust mentioning that you would never do that.



-but you tried..


FTFY

Since that day, the account (kaykawa) was out of my control, the new owner was "Dogedigital".
Maybe he sold the account later, or is the guy you are looking for.

It's time to make the right question to him.


https://i.imgur.com/CEYf3rz.png

I received kaykawa in 2014 (collateral) from a default loan as "full member".

I'm searching the thread and proof.

I'm not envolved with any of these users.

I was wrong, editing...
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My last post with "kaykawa" account was on: July 30, 2015, 12:54:01 AM (You can check the post history and writting style).

On January 16 I sold other account (collateral loan 2014/2015 too), not "kaykawa".
Kaykawa was sold in 2015, July 30th.

I'm searching the signed message and escrow quote.

In 2014 kaykawa (original owner) was looking a loan :

This was posted in my Thread :on: September 30, 2014

on: October 04, 2014 I started using the account.



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KAYKAWA :


This was saved by @twister :
https://archive.is/i17Rn


That's the reason why he tagged me as " Account Farmer ".
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I found it :

KAYKAWA :

I think this is just common to the auction section. It's a  strategy for them to start and it might be risky. It is just bad if someone would report or it eassily plotted. because it's really hard to sell if you are without a starting bidder.

And i don't think the right word cheating. Think of it as a risky strategy. Because if no one answered to your bid then your gonna have a bad time doing amends to what happened.

They're asociating my account with scammer accounts, who scammed people with ponzi.

The proove is above, also you can ask to escrow ( sebastian and shorena).

Quoting so it remains here.  You have to realize when breaking a giveaway rules and entering multiple times.... you are doing something wrong.    I don't think it can be blamed on language barrier.   You chances are can expect negative feedback... but not getting in trouble with forum's.

No shill bidding is going to make you look even worse.   It is again something I don't think a language barrier would make ok.  You have to know it is wrong to list a auction and bid it up.  Possible trouble with forums on this one not sure up to people much more powerful then me.

So we not have admitting to two not great things.  I think "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" tag is likely to stay given character shown with act's like that.  But who knows I could be wrong.

Giveaway?
Yes, I did it (that time I was "new" in the btc world), and as you can see my english isn't my native language. that time I just was looking a way to earn/get some satoshis, but don't doing scam or something illegal.

I was using a paid signature too (bitstars and after :bitmixer).

After some hours of reading about the community, btc and altcoins I stopped using my "account" to get some kind of income. (SPAM signature, the current big problem in the content in this forum).

Then I started using my signature with a NO-paid sig campaign, as you can see.

2nd, the bid issue, I did it too, but I was just one time. (The digital "batman" key, obtained as a gift from buying a nvidia card @ amazon.
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Like I said, i'm very transparent, I could easily delete the post and hide the evidence months ago, but I didn't.

"who owes nothing fears nothing."

in this case : If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.


(sorry my bad english).

So are you admitting you used a shill to bid up a auction?   You are kinda trying to move it down the road... but I think it is important and shows character of person.  It sounds like your admitting it just making sure.

Also what about the "double-dip in a free giveaway by BiPolarBob" do you admit to doing that?

I'd say all the way down to china. But wait for the "account changed hands" argument, ain't no way to counter that.

i remember seeing back dipping in the forums when the auctions were crazy busy.  if the bidding got higher quick, someone would try sneaking in a lower amount and hope that the only person that catches it is the next bidder, thus bringing the price back down to where that person could afford and maybe the others had moved on from the auction.  Sometimes worked, anyone that caught claimed a mistake or mistype

Interesting... so since they are now linked to kaykawa, I assume its safe to now link alesx.onfire & betterangels to this list:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alts-of-scammers-shield-scam-report-2-1329109

Looks like kaykawa can also be linked to txbtc, txbtc can be linked to JosIzem and you can see all of the alts of JosIzem

So how far does this rabbit hole go?? 

I would have, he has another alt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=205560 which also has negative trust but then there is always the alibi that the account was sold, even though sales can be faked. Person selling the account can buy the account themselves with an escrow in between.


He Triple-dipped actually and that's just unhygienic.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9630834 Archive: http://archive.is/FBlPp#selection-6345.0-6338.4
https://blockchain.info/tx/5b9857ec5f5599173aa075ec9cf681b91c0d8596e07ab34f7fa8105fc5d2cf73

If you think that "only" double-dipping in BPB's giveaways is greedy, then you should take a look at this

I've updated my post... he also used the alt to double-dip in a free giveaway by BiPolarBob.

Greed has consumed this one. 

https://youtu.be/P_RVL7m7OLo