Well, you nailed him with the tx you posted. "Both connected here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d1960da7baecf24175a8fc8a27ea54f501a5a635fd58d6a484387c1ac1aae0d3"
Topic: I caught someone cheating in auction - page 3. (Read 4269 times)
Apart from the bidding part,the shill account is accused of running Ponzi's with multiple negative feedbacks.How soon should we wait to see the main account tagged by this reference ? Twister it would be nicer if you make a thread in the scam accusations thread.
That is a interesting idea of having the account pay a penalty for misrepresenting themselves in a auction.
Making it double the amount they are seeking should stop higher accounts from doing it but what about the lower accounts which many use to hide behind?
Making it double the amount they are seeking should stop higher accounts from doing it but what about the lower accounts which many use to hide behind?
They should be penalized.
x10 the difference between the highest bid before the shill bid and the shill bid to mods*.
*me, if they aren't interested
x10 the difference between the highest bid before the shill bid and the shill bid to mods*.
*me, if they aren't interested
I also think this is bad, added about this in the list I created earlier.
How do you "penalize" users around bitcointalk ? Isn't "negative rep" the term you are looking for ? I don't think raising bids by the Alt should be a problem.Eventually he will end up having the highest bid with his product unsold.
Not necessarily. He'll likely just use it to bump up the price then contact the other highest bidders and offer them it if the price is reasonable. I would leave negative if there was reasonable evidence for the behaviour.
Hope you guys stay true to your words..
Account auctioning goods: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alesxonfire-329021
Shill account used to up the bid: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betterangels-361617
Auction thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/steam-key-batman-arkham-knight-pc-trusted-member-1073157 archive: http://archive.is/sEJ9R
Shill account uses this address 1LN3DgFutZDzUnovVKFvTBeFYvHcwWVE9k here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11060213
Account auctioning goods uses this address 18Qu6rym9WA3G1GJEWZSPn8ifA1eckMtdC here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364280.msg13878564%23msg13878564
Archive: http://archive.is/bRVTc and http://archive.is/lXdFR#selection-1975.0-1975.34
Both connected here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d1960da7baecf24175a8fc8a27ea54f501a5a635fd58d6a484387c1ac1aae0d3
Account one also tips his own shill account here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11060237
https://blockchain.info/tx/161fdbc9636a04ca226af1c39aa2e3af0f727c79614695f73d9bbe73e3d4377b
He has done other auctions as well, I guess it is safe to assume, he probably would have done the same other times also with different alts.
Hey, So I saw someone in the auction who cheated in raising the bid with his alt. Is it allowed here or should the user be penalized for this?
How do you "penalize" users around bitcointalk ? Isn't "negative rep" the term you are looking for ? I don't think raising bids by the Alt should be a problem.Eventually he will end up having the highest bid with his product unsold.
Not necessarily. He'll likely just use it to bump up the price then contact the other highest bidders and offer them it if the price is reasonable. I would leave negative if there was reasonable evidence for the behaviour.
Shill bidding is bad and I would drop a negative on someone for it. There is just no justification for doing it other than being greedy.
Hope you guys stay true to your words..
Account auctioning goods: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alesxonfire-329021
Shill account used to up the bid: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betterangels-361617
Auction thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/steam-key-batman-arkham-knight-pc-trusted-member-1073157 archive: http://archive.is/sEJ9R
Shill account uses this address 1LN3DgFutZDzUnovVKFvTBeFYvHcwWVE9k here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11060213
Account auctioning goods uses this address 18Qu6rym9WA3G1GJEWZSPn8ifA1eckMtdC here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364280.msg13878564%23msg13878564
Archive: http://archive.is/bRVTc and http://archive.is/lXdFR#selection-1975.0-1975.34
Both connected here: https://blockchain.info/tx/d1960da7baecf24175a8fc8a27ea54f501a5a635fd58d6a484387c1ac1aae0d3
Account one also tips his own shill account here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11060237
https://blockchain.info/tx/161fdbc9636a04ca226af1c39aa2e3af0f727c79614695f73d9bbe73e3d4377b
He has done other auctions as well, I guess it is safe to assume, he probably would have done the same other times also with different alts.
Shill bidding is bad and I would drop a negative on someone for it. There is just no justification for doing it other than being greedy.
It also looks bad for him, I think a innocent person would say that they did not do it and are innocent. He asks how can they say he was involved. So kinda shady on that part.
I just came across this thread after searching the Meta section for my name. Anyway, how can you say that I'm involved in cheating an auction? I bought the account at the BIN price because that seemed pretty cheap for a Member account.
Above is just part of quote go above for full
Well, yeah, an innocent person would also file charges for false allegations. If I said that I didn't do it, what are the odds of him believing me? He'll probably raise up some other affiliation like followed comments etc. so I just asked him a straightforward question.
This is a internet forum a innocent person would not go file charges over this. But they would deny it and say they did not do it, which you still have not did. Not say how do you know I did it? I think and that is just my 2cents.
Are you denying doing it? Or just denying no one has proved it?
agree, shill bidding is purely for the aim to extort additional funds from forum members and bang out of order.
If you have a minimum price in mind set a clear reserve or start price.
If you have a minimum price in mind set a clear reserve or start price.
Yes, it is bad and should not be done
Shill bidding is bad and I would drop a negative on someone for it. There is just no justification for doing it other than being greedy.
It also looks bad for him, I think a innocent person would say that they did not do it and are innocent. He asks how can they say he was involved. So kinda shady on that part.
I just came across this thread after searching the Meta section for my name. Anyway, how can you say that I'm involved in cheating an auction? I bought the account at the BIN price because that seemed pretty cheap for a Member account.
Above is just part of quote go above for full
Well, yeah, an innocent person would also file charges for false allegations. If I said that I didn't do it, what are the odds of him believing me? He'll probably raise up some other affiliation like followed comments etc. so I just asked him a straightforward question.
This is a internet forum a innocent person would not go file charges over this. But they would deny it and say they did not do it, which you still have not did. Not say how do you know I did it? I think and that is just my 2cents.
Are you denying doing it? Or just denying no one has proved it?
Shill bidding is bad and I would drop a negative on someone for it. There is just no justification for doing it other than being greedy.
It also looks bad for him, I think a innocent person would say that they did not do it and are innocent. He asks how can they say he was involved. So kinda shady on that part.
I just came across this thread after searching the Meta section for my name. Anyway, how can you say that I'm involved in cheating an auction? I bought the account at the BIN price because that seemed pretty cheap for a Member account.
Above is just part of quote go above for full
Well, yeah, an innocent person would also file charges for false allegations. If I said that I didn't do it, what are the odds of him believing me? He'll probably raise up some other affiliation like followed comments etc. so I just asked him a straightforward question.
Shill bidding is bad and I would drop a negative on someone for it. There is just no justification for doing it other than being greedy.
It also looks bad for him, I think a innocent person would say that they did not do it and are innocent. He asks how can they say he was involved. So kinda shady on that part.
I just came across this thread after searching the Meta section for my name. Anyway, how can you say that I'm involved in cheating an auction? I bought the account at the BIN price because that seemed pretty cheap for a Member account.
Above is just part of quote go above for full
Shill bidding is bad and I would drop a negative on someone for it. There is just no justification for doing it other than being greedy.
Please report the PM to me directly. Who is the alt account? Magicisme? If so he's already got negative for something.
I think this is the account : lolgato1
You can see his bid in this auction thread which was right after the OP's.Maybe magic is me is involved as well.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14532465
I just came across this thread after searching the Meta section for my name. Anyway, how can you say that I'm involved in cheating an auction? I bought the account at the BIN price because that seemed pretty cheap for a Member account.
But, yes, I have witnessed some users that bump up their sales thread and/or give false feedback to themselves with alt accounts because I have had experience buying one from a user that did so.
Please report the PM to me directly. Who is the alt account? Magicisme? If so he's already got negative for something.
And up to now, I have no idea what that "something" is. Please report the PM to me directly. Who is the alt account? Magicisme? If so he's already got negative for something.
I think this is the account : lolgato1
You can see his bid in this auction thread which was right after the OP's.Maybe magic is me is involved as well.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14532465
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Please report the PM to me directly. Who is the alt account? Magicisme? If so he's already got negative for something.
Not necessarily. He'll likely just use it to bump up the price then contact the other highest bidders and offer them it if the price is reasonable. I would leave negative if there was reasonable evidence for the behaviour.
As for proof he openly admitted to me that he bumped the price higher with the account he is selling.
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=gngb44tc
This is the estimator it has some positive trust in untrusted feedback.
I bumped up the price with my account so I'm sorry for that. So I'm ignoring the bid and assumed you to take the previous bid
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=gngb44tc
This is the estimator it has some positive trust in untrusted feedback.
I bumped up the price with my account so I'm sorry for that. So I'm ignoring the bid and assumed you to take the previous bid
I won't really give a big fuss about it since the amount is only small but as for honesty, I think this action is an obvious attempt of fraud and shouldn't be encouraged.
You can read it any way you please sweetpea.
Its not worth enough on its own to interest law enforcement but I'm hoping there are enough members with trust who will eventually take notice and get out the red brush.
edit: for spelling correction
Its not worth enough on its own to interest law enforcement but I'm hoping there are enough members with trust who will eventually take notice and get out the red brush.
edit: for spelling correction
It's called shill bidding. It is wire-fraud - a federal crime. Ergo anyone participating in such a scheme is conducting a scam. An illegal scam - do you need any more justification that that to give a negative rep to all alts involved?
I read this like autistic kid was blurting it out mid conversation and it made me smile.
So you looking to take this case to court or you just letting us know how smart you are for knowing such facts?
It's called shill bidding. It is wire-fraud - a federal crime. Ergo anyone participating in such a scheme is conducting a scam. An illegal scam - do you need any more justification that that to give a negative rep to all alts involved?
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