Topic: I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Yes You Do! (Read 4911 times)

What does that post have to do with anything? OgNasty's involvement in Betcoin? That can't be used as justification. I'd also like to state again that Betcoin created the self-moderated thread to censor content that can be used against them. If only they would reply.
I've already linked the master list in my post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13507632.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15778933

stop with the idiotic closed minded "I think you don't think" explanations & show me all you got. Otherwise you are a liar pussycat.

I do not think that any casino that blatantly deletes and ignores posts [that poke at the casino's ethics and ask important questions towards them] should be trusted. As for people defending said casino, if they have been given the information and are still ignorant to it (or equally bad, are shills) and are still willing to advertise for it, which advocates a product, then it is clear that negative feedback can be applied. Warnings were given - it is not as if Lutpin is not offering the signature campaign members a choice.

Consider if this situation were to have happened physically and not digitally: if you were advertising for a real casino that did what Betcoin has, then shouldn't you too receive backlash at least in some form? It shows that you're associating yourself with a provider that is ethically wrong.

I'd also like to redirect this whole Betcoin talk down to BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot (somewhat active) and Betcoin.ag Retaliates (Collection of scam accusations against me) for anything against TwitchySeal and people defending Betcoin.ag (and Betsoft).


Oh, and finally: Betcoin.ag has a new signature campaign thread (which was previously probably the only way to actually talk to them about problems) which is now self-moderated to protect against spam (issues directed at them)

If the moderator is extortionist then the OP can extort him in reply as well. There is no question of betcoin


You are prolly right but not all participants are defending betcoin as a casino, some of them are also against other people censoring them.

I must have missed your post when you said that you thought that Betcoin.ag was in the right.

The only posts that I have seen of yours in this thread is that the extortionist moderator Lauda has the right to advertise what he wants and if the OP disagrees with Lauda advertising for betcoin then the OP can distrust Lauda.

Just like Betcoin is.

Also, I'd like to point out that if you live in the US and are advertising as an affiliate for Betcoin (or any other illegal US-facing gambling site), you are actively breaking US law.  Playing on these sites is fine, but when you act as an employee, and especially one that is trying to recruit people to play on the site, that's illegal.

edit again panther. I am not.

Among the people in the DT network that have left betcoin.ag negative trust, one I have zero respect for due to his perpensidy to help his friends steal millions of dollars from people that trust him, one I believe is too immature to have any serious amount of authority, and one I trust. I can say that I am not part of any clan that is against betcoin.

Illegal in which jurisdiction? Which jurisdiction's licenses are they missing? Are they accepting players from any of these jurisdictions? Don't answer these questions because I do not care.

If you uncover evidence that cryptogames is cheating players, is not crediting deposits, is not paying out withdrawals, or is cheating investors, then please let me know, and I will promptly investigate, and remove my signature if I find the evidence to be credible, and counterpoints do not outweigh the evidence.

I understand what you're saying and i too believe it is true that you probably are not acting in favor of site you advertise, but i don't think the company that bought
your signature space hoped for the same.

I am by far not a shill, but rather just one of the members on who a clan of people tried to use bullying tactics  to make us do what they want, how they want, and when they want.
The fact that i don't react well on threats is one of my bigger flaws, so i apologize if sometimes i get too carried away.


EDIT: Do you realize that, for example, crypto-games.net that you advertise -  is an illegal gambling site with absolutely no gambling licence ? (Just like Da-Dice was)

I was merely pointing out that you are in fact receiving payment from betcoin.ag, while there is no evidence that I am aware of that suggests that twitchyseal is receiving any payment from any betcoin.ag competitor. Based on this alone, it looks more like you are being paid to shill for betcoin, not that twitchyseal is being paid to harm their competitors.

I had auctioned my signature space, and the owner of crypto games won the auction. You were free to bid if you so choose, however one requirement is that I not advertise what I view to be a scam. I actually had a negative rating against the owners of crypto games for several months due to an issue with how they handled certain payouts; I removed my rating after they remediated the issue.

The company that I am advertising for does not have the ability to influence my position on any given debate. I form my opinion based on the facts that are available to me, and my own judgement. There is no amount of money that could possibly convince me to say that something is my opinion when in fact it is not.

Edit: I would also note that the only people defending betcoin are those who are wearing their signature. This is very similar to how the idiots who were advertising the scam site DaDice were blindly supporting them.

I did.


Yes, you implied a connection. I question your connection based on my past experience with QS.


If there would a right angle it wouldnt be a discussion.

You should read from the start before you say such a thing.
I did not accuse QS of anything, therefore i don't need to back anything up. What i said was that it's funny and appealing that his signature was bought by crypto-games
now that this debate is on, talk about "accidental" timing.

Lutpin replied with :

Which is funny because it happened just yesterday.

So you are way off when you say that i'm not saying anything of substance of this debate, you're just not seeing if from the right angle.

I didn't make this about crypto-games, there's no connection between me criticizing the way betcoin.ag acts on various matters and me working for crypto-games.
You're trying to pull in crypto-games, because you can't seem to defend betcoin.Ag without it.

As for bidding on QS' signature, that's nothing new and certainly not connected to this.

I know Quickseller for some time now and we dont always agree and had several discussions on several topics. I never felt they changed their opinion with their signature though. Maybe you can put some quotes to your accusations, because right now it looks like you are just increasing your post counter without saying anything of substance.

Some time ago.. Yeah.. Surprised you didn't say "ages ago"


I'm not saying QS is now your slave, but it sure is more appealing when he wears crypto-games signature in this crypto-games - betcoin.ag war you seek.

Twitchy has nothing to do with crypto-games. I doubt he even visited the website once.
I'm managing a campaign for them, aswell as I manage campaign for other sites (777Coin or Bitvest, to name two more).
Furter, I'm a moderator of chat and regular player on the site, if that makes me deeply affiliated with them, so be it.

Quickseller is no part of the campaign under my management.
The deal with quickseller is independently and a result of an auction bid on their signature space being made by DogecoinMachine some time ago.

DebitMe contacted me about getting a space in the signature campaign, not the other way around.
Feel free to check back with them and let them confirm this.

Just because that works for you doesn't mean other users work like that.
Quickseller had a problem with the way betcoin.ag acted before they advertised for cg, and if nothing changes on betcoins end,
that will stay the same even after the deal between them and cg runs out.

I'm receiving normal payout for my signature spance, like any member of that campaign, sorry to disappoint.

It is my belief that TwitchySeal and Lutpin are deeply affiliated with crypto-games.net, and are selectively targeting betcoin.ag and trying to bully people into obeying what they want.

Same company that suddenly appeared on your signature space, even tho the campaign was closed/full. Same thing happened with another relatively high trusted member.
It's obvious that you were approached *cough* (bought) *cough* in hope to sway you to help them spread bullying stance towards other members.

I would never support a company just because they "pay for my signature", and I am more then willing to give my opinion on matters regardless of if I am receiving payment or not.

I can see however why betcoin would want to pay for Lauda's signature (which is what this thread was originally about), as Lauda is very good at "holding the company line" regardless of the facts that counter what he is saying, and clearly has no problems with keeping a closed mind in discussions.

That's how Betcoin Employees act.  They make up lies (and sometimes pay others to say them) and lob ad hominem attacks because they can't defend their positions without saying "Betcoin pays me so therefore I have to support them". 

If they were honest with themselves, they would say what those of us who speak out against Betcoin's shadyness are saying, which is that Betcoin has a good idea with horrible execution and they need to clean up their act so that they can thrive.  That's what they don't get...people like me don't want Betcoin to fail, we want the exact opposite!  A safe, trustworthy, reliable place to make money on.  Ignoring problems doesn't get to that end, though.  Facing the problems head on, taking responsibility, rectifying mistakes, and not repeating them is what they need to do to thrive.

But instead we get multiple shuttered and censored threads. 

I have not seen any evidence, credible or otherwise that TwitchySeal is in any way affiliated with any casino at all, let alone betcoin.

On the other hand, that signature of yours shows very clearly that you are receiving payments from betcoin.ag for at the minimum of posting with their signature, if not for something more