Topic: I do not endorse any website in my signature.<--Yes You Do! - page 3. (Read 4911 times)

Wow, I always assumed you just made a typo during registration.  I'm very sorry roslinpl.

A tough spot between calling you a lying, scamming paid troll idiot, or giving up his pay cheque?







Oh and mentally ill now!

Oh please, Lord have a mercy,

You are trolling the Betcoin.ag just because someone has paid you for doing that or because you are mentally ill. Because you spend whole day on trolling them. This is sick I must say.
And also you are an ignorant, you cannot even write my forumname in a correct way.

(same to cryptosmoker)

My final words about you and this whole situation.

Thank you for removing the Betcoin advertisement rosilin, I know you were in a tough spot.

Ohh much over 30! I don't need to grow up anymore, trust me.

But you need to learn how to behave to others. Indeed my friend.

Where did your signature go, if you don't mind me asking?

That is what a 12 year old kid would say.I'm sure you're a grown up.That is now how stuff works around the world,especially when you're representing a company directly/indirectly.Though I have no interest in the case but you did mentioned that "You will quit your job as a campaign manager for betcoin if someone shows at least one proof that they have been scammed by betcoin " right ? Though these weren't your exact words but that's what it implied.And like a gentlemen I request you to stick to your words.

https://archive.is/gn6Zm

This is why Forum has an "EDIT" function so you can edit your post.

Yes it was way longer because I had enough of this TwitchySeal but I decided to edit my post because I don't need to share my feelings to you if I don't feel like I want to.

Remove the EDIT function! God damn!


and stop swearing please ... behave yourself.

DUDE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ? YOU JUST EDITED YOUR POST AND YOU WERE NOT TOO QUICK IN DOING THAT ! I read the actual post and it was way too off or say distant from this one.Dear Roslinpl,I have not archived that post but if you you have the courtesy to post the same comments,I'd appreciate it.And I read your post like 3 times so I'm aware what its contents were.Please post the same comment you posted before editing the post. 

Sorry but I never had such a stupid conversation with that TwitchySeal.




Best regards.

Hey Twitchy nice job.
Seriously, I thought this thread would just be like all the others with betcoin supporters pretending to be even dumber than they actually are.  Nice surprise.

Well I guess Lauda wasnt technically a betcoin supporter.  Guess thats why it ended ok.

Well done Lauda,  you have removed the signature ad .


That's sure, it was just a sarcastic post (did you noticed the final /s?).

Re: Betsoft issues

The coingaming sites, bitstarz, betchain and a few others are indeed continuing to offer Betsoft slots, including jackpots.  But they have limited the denominations down to .02, .05 and .1 mBtc (used to offer .25, .5 and 1 as well)

Betcoin, on the other hand, continues to advertise a total of  BTC4,215.745 in progressive Jackpots on their front page.  However when you add them all up individually (as of a few days ago) it was BTC2,978.573 I've only been able to find record of one single progressive win since Betcoin has opened.  It happened in July of 2014, player "btc2014" won 3,800 mbtc progressive jackpot at 3D Slot Greedy Goblins." I posted this info last week with more details here

If someone wants to volunteer and go ask Betcoin to confirm how many progressive winners there have been, whether they have BTC4,200 in jackpots or only BTC3,000 set aside.  Also, we should wonder where the bitcoins are, right? They will not give theymos a direct answer if he asked, I am sure of it.

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Edit: I  am happy to see lauda has removed the signature.  Thank you Lauda, I hope you understand my only motivation was to prevent uninformed users from thinking a staff member was claiming Betcoin should be trusted, and perhaps the spreading awareness of the Betcoin issues  would not be a bad thing.  Nothing more.

I'd like to continue discussing the benefits of holding other signature campaign members more accountable in the future, not sure if I should lock this thread and take it somewhere else or not though.  Will edit Title in the mean time.

I concur with this (fair point on the second sentence).

I can't answer that, thus you have a fair point.

The same applies the other way around: All I know is that you're a random member who's demanding that I remove their signature based on inconclusive evidence. You may very well have some history with them that I'm not aware of (an example).

I don't have to burn someone at a stake beforehand though.

Please talk about EcuaMobi in regards to that.

No, it shouldn't. The service in question would be negatively rated if it was a clear scam and that was not the case at the time (which is what I checked while entering, and after getting the PM). If I kept prioritizing things every time I got a message from a random member, I wouldn't have time to do anything.

How about you stop talking nonsense? I've joined Betcoin 6 days ago.

^^the above post was found in another thread discussing betcoin

This quote is from March of this year, it is now July. If you are outright not going to look into the situation then you should just come out and say so explicitly instead of saying "I will look into it later". If you are not going to look into claims of the site you are advertising for ~4 months then it should be safe to say that you are not going to look into it at all!

The paytable being updated/corrected only resolves the specific issue that was originally brought up by the OP of the thread claiming non-payment of the jackpot, since that thread was created, several other issues have come to light.

It appears that the jackpots are being paid out in a pattern that is unprobable, to the extent that it is fair to say that there is a serious problem with how BetSoft pays out jackpots. This issue is amplified by the fact that it is not possible to verify your "rolls" (bets) on BetSoft games. There are a number of articles on what appears to be online gambling sites warning about this issue (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 -- some of these may be somewhat duplicated).

BetSoft also appears to have lost their "Alderney Gaming License".

These issues appear to be severe enough so that bodiva (the largest online casino) has removed BetSoft games from their site.

BetCoin has specifically dealt with the issue regarding jackpots themselves, so they cannot deny that they are aware of the issue. As mentioned above, bodiva has apparently removed their BetSoft games from their casino.

Regarding the other casinos, yes they should be aware of the situation, however I can understand if they are not, and I can understand if it would take a long time for someone with the appropriate authority and expertise (this might be two different people) gets the message that there are issues with BetSoft.

There is also a thread that lists some fairly serious concerns about BetCoin.ag that are not BetSoft specific. 

There is no reason to make an example out of Lauda (although it appears that is what she wants currently), nor anyone else for that matter. The best resolution would be for Lauda to remove the signature and get on with her life.

Addressing a complaint that you are advertising what someone believes to be a scam should be your number one priority, and should take priority over anything else in your backlog of things to get done. When I was acting as escrow for a signature campaign for a site that turned out to be a scam, I PM'ed all of the participants letting them know that they were "officially" promoting a scam, and that they had the option of receiving payment for the posts they had made to date if they removed their signature, and I received an ~instant response from ~all of the participants, all of which (except one) removed their signatures. When "bitcoin black Friday" was uncovered as being a scam, theymos looked into the situation ~immediately, and addressed it ~immediately. I see no reason why you should not do the same.   

What % of active users do you think could give the name of a single DT member? 

The system is really complicated and most people have no reason to bother trying to figure it out.  Default Trust members appear the exact same as any other member (I think, right? I could be wrong)

I have no clue what your job is, how you got it or who gave it to you.  All I know is it says "STAFF" under your name, and that seems pretty important.  Then after every post you make, it says "Betcoin.ag The Most Trusted Bitcoin & Litecoin Casino."


I've asked you several times now and haven't gotten a direct answer.  Why won't you remove Betcoin ad from your signature?

You're acting as if you trust everyone until it's been proven you shouldn't.  I know you are more intelligent than most, so I don't have to explain how ridiculous that is.


Ok, I'd really appreciate any specific reasons my evidence is not conclusive so I can have a chance to clarify. I've played 8 million hands of online poker in my life, and many of the issues involve stuff that non-poker players may not get, like rakeback, rake structure, satellite structure, ethical standards re: enforcing rules, dealing with cheaters, etc.

In the mean time, I suggest any trusted member to ask their campaign manager why they removed all the data from previous campaign periods, only share the data with members who request it and have kicked a member from their campaign for sharing it with me.  (or you can probably figure it out by reading this post:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15142143#msg15142143 )

I don't know who "Lauda" is and have no opinion one way or another about him/her.  I also don't know what "DT" means, but I assume it's "default trust"?  So I'll try to explain the situation as succinctly as possible, but I apologize if I get an assumption incorrect:

Betcoin is a shady/sketchy site.  They have done a number of things in the past that are very ethically wrong at the BEST.  All of them are anti-customer and show a disdain for their customers, disrespect for their customers/customer's money's safety, and have a huge veil of secrecy.  Now, I don't come from a bitcoin world, I come from the poker world.  I've seen literally dozens of poker sites fold up and steal player funds.  Betcoin's activity mirrors made of the "warning signs" that those sites exhibited right before their cut and run.

Here are a couple of examples:

- Betcoin either sold their customer's email addresses to phishers or had several layers of their database compromised by malicious attackers.  They refuse to take responsibility for this or let any customer know what was going on, allowing made players to fall victim to phishing emails.  When made aware of what was going on, they POSTED THE PHISHING LINK ON THEIR FRONT PAGE!

- Betcoin stole player funds in the form of a bad beat jackpot and overraking pots on all tables. 

- Betcoin consistently underpays players in the form of their daily rakeback. 

- Betcoin steals money and actively bets against their player base by converting btc-to-usd at a rate up to $100 lower than the actual conversion rate.

And so many many all.  All of these situations have been documented extensively, and are listed in Twitchy's scam thread.  If you have time to post a couple of times on this board, you have the time to read through that thread and make an informed decision on what you want to promote.  The problem with a staff member promoting a shady site is that it carries a certain amount of weight to it.  It looks like bitcointalk itself is endorsing the site.  That's bad!  Will you be criminally responsible if Betcoin steals money from players who signed up under you?  Probably not (unless you are currently living in the US, in which case you are already breaking the law by being an affiliate for an illegal offshore US-facing site), but ethically you absolutely will be.  Most people wouldn't want that weight on their head, which is why every major affiliate rejects Betcoin ads, and I hope that staff for one of the biggest hubs for bitcoin fans would hold themselves to a higher standard than promoting a shady site for a penny per post.