I doubt it - But is it too bad to ask you to review some of my posts? - page 2.

Adbitco

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 26, 2023, 03:10:12 PM

Not sure if I've ever worried about my merit count since I reached Legendary status. The truth is that once you reach this level, you stop caring about the merit system, and members stop pushing you too. Sometimes, I go for weeks without receiving a single merit, and it's not because my posts are of poor quality; rather, it's because the merits on the gambling board are scarce or totally insufficient. I only receive merits when I post on the general board. If you're serious in getting merits, my suggestion to Op is to shy away from low topics on the B & H AND bitcoin board

Yeah, your absolutely right.
There are some board that are not active that much to attract merits whenever you posted but in technical section which includes; Development & Technical discussion, Bitcoin Technical support, Project Development. I think anyone who is active in this area may not lack merits that much. The altcoin board, B&H may not attracts more attention for one's post to be merited all less maybe they manually apply for review before they could get merited.

Findingnemo

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 26, 2023, 05:08:27 PM

Once a person reaches Legendary rank(you have the merit to be that) I will usually merit them less and once you reach that rank merit isn't worth anything, it's just as bragging rights thing at that point IMO.

I do think that this is the possible reason why he isn't getting merits as before because usually merit sources encourages members to rank up until legendary and after that it's not really matter because legendary is the highest rank we can reach in bitcointalk or atleast until now ( not sure if theymos has plan to introduce ranks above legendary).

About lacking sMerits I just move because I never had lot of sMerits to spend and when I get I spend it sooner but I am not really someone who is giving more attention towards the merits column, I just want to get more information as much as possible with the resources of our community members.

yahoo62278

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Quote from: Igebotz on April 26, 2023, 05:37:13 PM

you are a source, and I doubt you have ever gone out of merit.

I am not a merit source, I just get merited like everyone else. Maybe more often I suppose, but definitely not a source.

Mr.right85

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Quote from: _BlackStar on April 25, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

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Do not beg for merit excessively.

I've always seen that to be never as, begging at all isn't a very tasteful habit.

Somehow yes, it seems times do change.
There were times when we had compliants in the forum of merits circulating mainly about the ranked up users and the answers to that was;

Ranked users have got the know how and technicality about being constructive, precise and on point when addressing issues or creating threads on the forum and it was easy to have there post appreciated as compared to beginners.
We had several chats to show that merit flow between ranked users in contracts to beginners.

Now, we seem to have entered an era where, the beginners are given the opportunity to rank up and be more constructive on there literally piece. I won't say the quality has declined over time as per posting but, the focus have changed to helping beginners for there enthusiasm and this happens to have dropped for ranked users as we become quite selective on how to participate or react in the forum.

Mate2237

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 25, 2023, 11:27:48 PM

Yep, and I probably didn't convey that sentiment in my previous post, but it's quite true. Your posts might still be of the same quality, but many members with merits to give away (including me, which I did say) do look at someone's merit count when they're deciding whether they're going to give someone merits.

Yes you are right. But the issue on the forum is that what one sees as a quality post is a shit to another. So what is quality post in the forum is unknown. And as you said previously, merit should be given to the ranking up members and not the members who have already gotten the the last required merits for the last rank. But those legendary members also needs merits for the last 120 days to qualify for other activities in the forum. Therefore, if there is a way they can get merit like lower rank members, theymos should implement it. I have seen such threads in the forum elsewhere.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 25, 2023, 11:27:48 PM

That's just the way it is, and I think it's a good way to use the merit system. Merits are more than just a thumbs-up or a like; they're the mechanism by which people rank up here, so giving them to someone who already has enough to make Legendary might be considered to be squandering those sMerits.

Exactly, merit is the symbolic concept of like and love in the forum. And also an indicator that the thread, comment is good. So that means if a post did not receive merits, does that mean the post is a low quality post?

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 25, 2023, 11:27:48 PM

Note: I'm totally guilty of violating what I just wrote, many times over. But as a merit source I've usually got plenty of sMerits to hand out. *And speaking of that, I think I'll now get back to my extensive waiting list of members wanting post reviews*

Edit: Shitsky!! I didn't realize how low I was running on sMerits, and I just handed out my last one while doing reviews. If anyone who's still waiting for a review sees this, please be patient as I have to wait until my source allocation gets re-upped. *eeek!*

For the last 10 months, or there about, you have helped many users to rank up. Thank you very much for your good deed. I am also on the waiting list. I have also improved on my posts. You can now unlock me🙏

Igebotz

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 26, 2023, 05:08:27 PM

It's nice to get merits, but unless you're a merit source it isn't your job to feel like you have to merit someone. You can make a spreadsheet and merit people later if you recieve some merit, or you can send a merit source a pm and have them take a look although they will probably get annoyed at multiple PMs.

The only good answer is apply to be a merit source(if you're not 1 already) and see if theymos will approve you.

I sent ya 49 merits to help you out, but now I cannot send you anymore for a month. Good luck.

It's not as simple as you may think; what you see as quality or value to one person may be annoying to another; that's why I never bother sending PMs or requesting a merit source to look at a specific post; everyone judges posts differently; the feeling of not being able to merit a good post when you see one feels some kind of way; you are a source, and I doubt you have ever gone out of merit.

Quote from: Zilon on April 26, 2023, 03:31:53 PM

I am beginning to feel the whole merit system is politicised and only those who are within the cabals of this generous merits source benefit from them.

There will always be favoritism because we are all human after all, and we all have our favorites on the forum. If this was about the DT system, I would agree that it is highly political, but I haven't seen the merit system that way. I notice that you frequently post on the gambling board. I'm sorry, but we do not currently have a dedicated merit source on that board. I considered applying, but...

yahoo62278

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Once a person reaches Legendary rank(you have the merit to be that) I will usually merit them less and once you reach that rank merit isn't worth anything, it's just as bragging rights thing at that point IMO.

It's nice to get merits, but unless you're a merit source it isn't your job to feel like you have to merit someone. You can make a spreadsheet and merit people later if you recieve some merit, or you can send a merit source a pm and have them take a look although they will probably get annoyed at multiple PMs.

The only good answer is apply to be a merit source(if you're not 1 already) and see if theymos will approve you.

I sent ya 49 merits to help you out, but now I cannot send you anymore for a month. Good luck.

Zilon

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I have had several of my posts where users paraphrase them and earn merits from it and they will neglect me who made the initial posts. I also have many topics i created where mp posts was attacked and yet forum users end up using the same concepts and ideology from my thread to make points in new discussions and no one even bothers meriting me for such posts. I am beginning to feel the whole merit system is politicised and only those who are within the cabals of this generous merits source benefit from them.

Igebotz

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Quote from: examplens on April 26, 2023, 01:21:33 PM

Quote from: _BlackStar on April 25, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

So let me ask, was it really too much when I asked some of you to review my post and drop some merit there if you find something worthy? I hope this isn't a excessively attempt to do instead of sending you an unsolicited PM.

why are you worried about earning new merits? You have enough for the next rank, you have to be obsessed to look for them and get upset if you didn't get them.

If we are already talking about your post history, don't be surprised that some of your posts are unnoticed, because they are in some irrelevant discussions. you should avoid discussions like
Where can I invest 4k bitcoin
Don't encourage multiple trading!

Not sure if I've ever worried about my merit count since I reached Legendary status. The truth is that once you reach this level, you stop caring about the merit system, and members stop pushing you too. Sometimes, I go for weeks without receiving a single merit, and it's not because my posts are of poor quality; rather, it's because the merits on the gambling board are scarce or totally insufficient. I only receive merits when I post on the general board. If you're serious in getting merits, my suggestion to Op is to shy away from low topics on the B & H AND bitcoin board

examplens

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Quote from: _BlackStar on April 25, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

So let me ask, was it really too much when I asked some of you to review my post and drop some merit there if you find something worthy? I hope this isn't a excessively attempt to do instead of sending you an unsolicited PM.

why are you worried about earning new merits? You have enough for the next rank, you have to be obsessed to look for them and get upset if you didn't get them.

If we are already talking about your post history, don't be surprised that some of your posts are unnoticed, because they are in some irrelevant discussions. you should avoid discussions like
Where can I invest 4k bitcoin
Don't encourage multiple trading!

jokers10

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Quote from: libert19 on April 26, 2023, 09:54:20 AM

Once user earns 1000 merits, some shy away from giving more just because you have earned enough for highest rank on forum. Perhaps that could be the case? By the way, it was surprising to see you asking for a post review.

I'd say the opposite: when I see someone who hasn't got a legendary rank yet I can easier give merits as he needs them and even probably give more merits. And those ones who already ranked as high as possible are not in need. It is not that I won't give a merit for a good post, but there's no additional motivation like to help to rank up. And it is actual for many, it was spoken many times in discussions like that. As I feel and remember me myself earned merits much faster when was going to get a legendary member rank.

So no need to worry, majority starts earning merits slower after legendary, it is normal and doesn't say anything about post quality. It can be worrying only if there will be no merits at all, because even if less often but merits are being given even to legendaries. Grin

DaNNy001

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Quote from: Lucius on April 26, 2023, 10:53:10 AM

Quote from: _BlackStar on April 25, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

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However, don't take my advice seriously, because I'm not one of those people whose opinion carries some weight on the forum.

An advice is always welcome on the forum and you sharing your opinion here is not a bad thing at all. What the op is feeling now is quite normal among some legendary member ranks in the forum because like what most merit source have already said about given out merits, some merits sources prefer given merits to lower rank member that are striving to rank up so when the highest rank in the forum is achieved by a member, I feel they are left to earn these merits to actually represent the legendary rank they rep and most times its only takes extra efforts to keep these merits coming but just be sure that the merits will eventually come especially if you have built for yourself a good reputation in various ways of contributing in the forum.

Lucius

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Quote from: _BlackStar on April 25, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

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@_BlackStar, first of all, I don't think this is something that has a place in the Meta board, because it's your personal problem, not a forum problem at all.

Furthermore, I have never had the slightest sympathy for such things, because merits should be earned in a "natural" way, not in any other way - whether it is a public invitation to someone to view your posts, or in a way that some members ask others to send their posts for review.

If I were you, I would move this thread somewhere far away and lock it, because I think it does you more harm than good. However, don't take my advice seriously, because I'm not one of those people whose opinion carries some weight on the forum.

libert19

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Once user earns 1000 merits, some shy away from giving more just because you have earned enough for highest rank on forum. Perhaps that could be the case? By the way, it was surprising to see you asking for a post review.

rdluffy

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Quote from: skarais on April 25, 2023, 10:55:54 PM

But it's just my feeling, maybe because they think that I'm Legendary.

Quote from: Poker Player on April 25, 2023, 11:20:34 PM

What is happening to you is normal and also happened to me and many others. Simply when you are ranking up, many forum mates tend to give you more merits to help you reach the ranks. Once you have the necessary merits to reach legendary, that extra push stops.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 25, 2023, 11:27:48 PM

Yep, and I probably didn't convey that sentiment in my previous post, but it's quite true. Your posts might still be of the same quality, but many members with merits to give away (including me, which I did say) do look at someone's merit count when they're deciding whether they're going to give someone merits.

I was going to post exactly this that you already commented, I thought no one was going to comment on this point

But it is a fact, I think most users go through this same phase when they reach the legendary level.

I can say that I also had/have the same behavior, as I didn't have many merits to give, I often didn't give merits to legendaries in very good posts, just because the user is already a legendary and I had only 1 or 2 merits to give.
Thankfully we have merit sources that fill this gap and can give more merits to legendaries and balance things out a bit.
Some sections of the forum are also extremely hard to earn merits no matter the quality of the content too.

Now it is my turn to face this legendary level plateau.
From 900 merits up to 1000 were my fastest merits that I have earned, I think this also influences a lot the perception that when you reach 1000, the merits diminish.

With time you should get back to normal and get the merits again, but with another frequency that will depend on the boards you post / merit sources / quality of content.

Edit: forgot to mention, I consider this phase as a good chance to further improve the posts and try to add more value to the forum.

Fiatless

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Quote from: _BlackStar on April 25, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

So let me ask, was it really too much when I asked some of you to review my post and drop some merit there if you find something worthy? I hope this isn't a excessively attempt to do instead of sending you an unsolicited PM.

Theymos said:

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Do not beg for merit excessively.

Recently I heard a girl complaining to her friends that for the last two months, no boy has called her or asked her out, or collected her phone number. She was worried because she was feeling that she was no longer attractive even when it is clear that she was beautiful. So she asked her friend to review her physical appearance and score how she looks. I think the major problem was that for these months she has not been fortunate to be in an area where men that really like her physique or style are located.

I have also felt the same way in this forum. Sometimes you spend some quality time doing some posts and you expect to get at least one merit from it, but you end up getting nothing. While on some occasions you just get more than you expect. The reason is that members that will like your post have not located them. If members that really need that information you gave locate them, you will definitely get some merit.

These are my own views, I might be wrong.

SatoPrincess

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You have complained about this before so it must really bother you. Your contribution to fighting scams and spammers do not go unnoticed and you have built a reputation for yourself, do not let the merits become a distraction that you forget the work you have done. Like others, I also believe the reason is because merit sources have limited allocated smerits and are more inclined to spend the merits on users who are trying to rank up not those who have already reached legendary rank. You can make use of LoyceV’s Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source thread.

I just learnt that Bitcoin Discussion is visited much by merit sources so posts in that board may not get as much merits even if they are quality posts. I have never looked at it this way but now it seems Bitcoin Discussion comes right after Gambling and Altcoin Discussion in post quality. There are quality posts in Bitcoin Discussion but they quickly get buried under a mountain of spam.

mk4

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on April 25, 2023, 07:51:25 PM

Also, if you're a high-ranking member such as yourself you probably don't want to be starting up threads like this. It just doesn't feel right IMO.

Lol this — without opening the thread yet, I expected someone with like 900 activity with 10 merits.

Advice to OP: just focus on better quality regardless how good/bad you're doing right now. Far better to be trying to improve yourself harder than keeping on wondering why not much people are giving you points based on your current post quality!

LoyceV

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Quote from: _BlackStar on April 25, 2023, 06:40:19 PM

I have somehow lost a lot of merit income since I made my first 1000 merit.

First: I wouldn't call it "income". Merit varies over the months:

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Merit received by _BlackStar (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until April 21, 2023 (source)

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In your case, a large share (>40%) of your Merit came from one user who reviewed your posts several times. I assume that was meant to help you rank up since you're not a shitposter, but if it stops, you lose quite a large share of your Merit "income".

I quickly checked your post history: You're posting a lot in Bitcoin Discussion. In general, the post quality is quite low there, and I'm not reading the board very often. If I don't read it, I can't Merit it.

Despairo

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Each merit source has their own opinion about reviewing legendary rank account's post, but I guess most of them will reject it because there's no point for them to check your post history and give you merit (most of the reason is time consuming). Let's assuming they find few of your posts deserved to be merited, but what's the purpose? you have ranked up to the last rank and there's nothing you can achieve.

But don't be sad, if you're really think there are few of your posts really deserved to be merited, you can report to this thread [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. AFAIK there's no rank restrictions, so even it's a legendary rank, they might merit it.

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