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Topic: I have a MAXIMUM budget of 12 BTC to invest in Bitcoin mining, need some advice (Read 2536 times)

newbie
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Get a KNC Neptune 1st batch pre order off someone else.
I agree. Check my signature Wink
sr. member
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Dont buy miners ( or bitcoin ) or anything else speculative with borrowed money. That would be my advice.
+1
Dont speculate with anything you cant afford to loose.
Delivery delays, increased difficulty, price drops for BTC ... far to many possibilities of not making your money back.
full member
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Dont buy miners ( or bitcoin ) or anything else speculative with borrowed money. That would be my advice.
full member
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CAUTION: Angry Man with Attitude.
Get a KNC Neptune 1st batch pre order off someone else.
member
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I am sure there are plenty of options for you in regards to buying miners but none will be worth more in the end  than the coin you hold right now.  With all this unpredictable hash power coming online,it could make your new found miner a nice conversation piece quick and you would be in debt. Buy coin and when they triple in value,then buy a miner if you feel lucky. Coin is king.
hero member
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Actually for 12BTC you can get 5 Antminers - 5x180GH normal = 900GH

EDIT: Sorry forgot to mention that you can overclock them to achieve 200GH per unit but that will void your warranty.
More info here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/setup-troubleshoot-bitmain-antminer-s1-180ghs-miner-344970

Antminers are on sale now for only 2.2BTC, I bought one yesterday and received a tracking number today.
Delivered by Thursday in Eu.

They are currently sold out but they will have a few more before the Chinese New Year from what I have heard.

Try this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4588475

GenTarkin states that they should have more by tomorrow for shipping by Tuesday
I am sure he knows more Wink
sr. member
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Hello!  As I've stated in the title, I have $10,000 to spend on Bitcoin mining.  I'm however am having trouble finding the best buy.  If any of you can tell me what the best miner is for 12 BTC with the most reliability, highest hashrate, lowest power consumption, best reputation, fastest time from order to shipment, etc.

Thanks!
-Suo

Buy litecoin instead... its really cheap now...

+1. Expect litecoin to make new highs later this year when Coinbase adds litecoin.

hero member
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'All that glitters is not gold'
Thing is, I have to pay back this $10,000 in 6 to 9 months, so buying and holding might not prove to be the best option for me.

Did you borrowed the money ??
This is the reason for you don't want to buy BTC and wait for the price to raise?
sr. member
Activity: 294
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Hello!  As I've stated in the title, I have $10,000 to spend on Bitcoin mining.  I'm however am having trouble finding the best buy.  If any of you can tell me what the best miner is for 12 BTC with the most reliability, highest hashrate, lowest power consumption, best reputation, fastest time from order to shipment, etc.

Thanks!
-Suo

Buy litecoin instead... its really cheap now...
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
You can Pre-Order a CoinTerra 2 TH/s Miner or a KNC Neptune 3 TH/s miner. They will make you good profit.

no they won't!
cointerra is already late and by the time you receive it diff will be so high that it won't even ROI.
same thing for Neptune. If you pay it right now you'll be at the end of batch 2 for delivery. black arrow will hit the network hardly (end of February) together with first batch of Neptune and also cointerra when they start with delivery. by the time you receive Neptune purchased today diff will be so high it will not earn you anything. 
full member
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CAUTION: Angry Man with Attitude.
You can Pre-Order a CoinTerra 2 TH/s Miner or a KNC Neptune 3 TH/s miner. They will make you good profit.
legendary
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Hello!  As I've stated in the title, I have $10,000 to spend on Bitcoin mining.  I'm however am having trouble finding the best buy.  If any of you can tell me what the best miner is for 12 BTC with the most reliability, highest hashrate, lowest power consumption, best reputation, fastest time from order to shipment, etc.

Thanks!
-Suo

The 12 BTC ganna get you much more profit then mining... check difficulty..
newbie
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full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
I'm thinking about selling my saturn [october batch] [284GH/s ] for 6 BTC
5.3BTC buys you 2 brand new AntMiners which together produce 360 to 410GH/s
I wonder how you expect to get 6BTC for a ~4month old miner which produces 284GH/s
sr. member
Activity: 266
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I'm thinking about selling my saturn [october batch] [284GH/s ] for 6 BTC

This is a joke right?Huh
285Gh saturn can earn in his lifetime around 3.5-4BTC.
WTF dude???
newbie
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I'm thinking about selling my saturn [october batch] [284GH/s ] for 6 BTC
full member
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When is KnC Neptune first and second batch gonna ship?
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Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q2 of 2014.
newbie
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When is KnC Neptune first and second batch gonna ship?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
there is no miner worth of buying right now.
blackarrow has sold out everything till May, KNC 3TH neptune is sold out also and it will arrive to late for you.
rest of the company's are not worth of consideration.

right now your best option is https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-worldwidebtmine-v1-miner-200ghs-btc-24-379819
i can confirm that guys are legit and I have 2 units running at 220-230GH/s without overclocking and they cost $2050 including shipping. they are shipped via DHL so package is in you hands within 4 days. they will even write low value for you so you can save some money on import custom.

anyway, be careful with your money.
this is definitely not the time to make any investments in mining gear except for BTC.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Bitmain AntMiner S1
https://www.bitmaintech.com/

They're being sold now for 2.65BTC for 180GH/s (or overclock to 200). Get 4 of those and spend the rest of your money on good PSU's.

Right now, they give you about 0.065 - 0.075 per day per miner (depending on pool luck and overclock) With the current difficulty it takes about 43 days to mine 12BTC with them.
Yes the difficulty will rise quite a bit during these days and I didn't calculate the power costs, but still, even if it takes 90 days, still plenty of time to pay back your loan.

At that point you can do 2 things:
- keep mining for more btc
- sell them on ebay and take your profit in that way

I guess the value of BTC and the diff at the moment you made your ROI will help you decide what to do.

The most important thing here is, they're available. Sure you can do some pre-order stuff, but I think that's just way too risky, delays can really fck you over.

Good luck Smiley

edit:
there are also some other devices like Avalon2 rigs, but they really sound like a jet engine and use way more power which (in my opinion) simply rules them out to use in your home environment, if you were planning to set them up there.
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