I have discovered Something about covid 19

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Quote from: Emitdama on October 05, 2020, 02:47:07 PM

Quote from: JuSayCo on September 25, 2020, 03:31:32 AM

Somehow true. Actually, there's a lot of issues behind this covid-19 crisis. But, over thinking will only make us so depressed. So, we better left this issues behind, and think positively in order to survive. The virus is so deadly and I'm really scared about it. So, if we still want to survive, we just follow all the Governments guidelines and safety protocol. Its the least that we could do now, until the vaccine will soon be release.

One thing I have learned is that most of the leaders are uneducated and rather than following what they say I now like to follow what is the reality and how to prevent myself. I mean the government can force shutdowns and lockdowns for ages without actually knowing how much people are suffering.

I was recently reading an article where a family suicide together because they had no options left and rather than dying of crisis and starvation they decided to take poison. The government will never understand what people are going through because they are sitting down in their offices while planning how to win the next elections and how to fool their voters so that they can come into power again.

the next election kind of stuff are just some pointless circus lol:D

the trump biden show look like some real circus or comedy show with tax payers money:D
not wattching elections its just comedy and joke

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Quote from: JuSayCo on September 25, 2020, 03:31:32 AM

Somehow true. Actually, there's a lot of issues behind this covid-19 crisis. But, over thinking will only make us so depressed. So, we better left this issues behind, and think positively in order to survive. The virus is so deadly and I'm really scared about it. So, if we still want to survive, we just follow all the Governments guidelines and safety protocol. Its the least that we could do now, until the vaccine will soon be release.

One thing I have learned is that most of the leaders are uneducated and rather than following what they say I now like to follow what is the reality and how to prevent myself. I mean the government can force shutdowns and lockdowns for ages without actually knowing how much people are suffering.

I was recently reading an article where a family suicide together because they had no options left and rather than dying of crisis and starvation they decided to take poison. The government will never understand what people are going through because they are sitting down in their offices while planning how to win the next elections and how to fool their voters so that they can come into power again.

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2020, 02:30:05 PM

The thing about politicians is that they do not look for what is best for the country, they look what is best for their voters. I have been involved in politics in my nation and I can tell you that if something is bad for the country but gains votes, politicians will do that, if something is great for the nation but loses you votes, they will not do that.

So true and the politicians use their people as vote bank which means they will only work for votes.

The leaders know they are in position for a few years and during this time they have to fill their illegal banks with loads of cash and also have to manage on how to win the next elections which means they never have the vision to work for the people.

China is a great example how a single leader can help develop the nation because they do not have to think about votes every few years and can actually work for the betterment of their people. I was impressed how they created so many hospitals in the awake of covid-19 and while every country was trying to avoid corona virus they were fighting with it.

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Quote from: barbara44 on September 27, 2020, 02:30:05 PM

The thing about politicians is that they do not look for what is best for the country, they look what is best for their voters. I have been involved in politics in my nation and I can tell you that if something is bad for the country but gains votes, politicians will do that, if something is great for the nation but loses you votes, they will not do that.

So, that results with a nation being ruled with "what will gain me votes" and that is how they become amazingly popular politicians and when they become so powerful that they could do some failed stuff that will only gain them power but will lose them a bit of votes, they will still be high ahead enough to keep them at their position they start to do them more and more and turn iron fist dictators over time, some nations can prevent it, some nations can't.

Agree to this, politicians aren't doing those achievements for their country, it's been done for their own good so their party will gain trust from the citizens. That's why we should research and should consider those achievements of a person before entering politics. The problem here also is those people aren't voting wisely, they're being brainwashed by simple things because they lack wisdom about it and easily influenced.

Here in my country, they're doing stuff that isn't related to the current pandemic and still being praised by their supporters. The millions of money that should've been spending in the health care system.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 27, 2020, 01:32:15 PM

Quote from: jaysabi on September 26, 2020, 10:35:02 PM

It's not smoke and mirrors and it has nothing to do with debt. India and Brazil both have a good chance to pass the US in number of cases. India due to population density presenting a giant risk to the country and the total population gives a lot more potential infections, and Brazil because they have an idiotic leader who downplays the virus and is more content to ignore it than try to prevent the spread of it (shares this in common with the US, but more at risk I would say due to economic and structural weaknesses in the government compared to the US).

Brazil is the worst example. The president (Jair Bolsonaro) even refused to acknowledge the seriousness of the pandemic in the beginning. Even when the death toll crossed into tens of thousands, he refused to declare a nation-wide lockdown. On the other hand, India was among the first countries to declare a nation-wide lockdown. And it helped them in slowing down the spread (at least during the initial phase).

Well you can add Trump to that list of politicians who haven't taken the pandemic seriously and has paid a price for it. Up until now, Americans have been paying the price for Trump's refusal to take the pandemic seriously, but the idiot has contracted it himself now as a direct result of not taking it seriously, which is some long overdue karma.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 27, 2020, 11:52:00 AM

I am not sure which country you are from, but if you look at the debt according to the countries GDP Japan has the most debt and Greece and Singapore comes in the top ten. The data is available for everyone to cross check and can you very well tell one country that is not affected by the pandemic, every country is struggling from the pandemic and it is not smoke and mirrors but there will be smoke and mirrors in the sense that the politicians will blame their failed policies on the economic struggle entirely on the pandemic.

Japan always had a very high debt-to-GDP ratio and there the economy is used it. The other countries that you have mentioned (Greece, Singapore.etc) doesn't even rank among the top-25 countries as far as GDP is concerned. And the high debt-to-GDP ratio forced an economic meltdown in Greece a few years back. None of the major economies apart from Japan and the US have such a high ratio.

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The thing about politicians is that they do not look for what is best for the country, they look what is best for their voters. I have been involved in politics in my nation and I can tell you that if something is bad for the country but gains votes, politicians will do that, if something is great for the nation but loses you votes, they will not do that.

So, that results with a nation being ruled with "what will gain me votes" and that is how they become amazingly popular politicians and when they become so powerful that they could do some failed stuff that will only gain them power but will lose them a bit of votes, they will still be high ahead enough to keep them at their position they start to do them more and more and turn iron fist dictators over time, some nations can prevent it, some nations can't.

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Quote from: jaysabi on September 26, 2020, 10:35:02 PM

It's not smoke and mirrors and it has nothing to do with debt. India and Brazil both have a good chance to pass the US in number of cases. India due to population density presenting a giant risk to the country and the total population gives a lot more potential infections, and Brazil because they have an idiotic leader who downplays the virus and is more content to ignore it than try to prevent the spread of it (shares this in common with the US, but more at risk I would say due to economic and structural weaknesses in the government compared to the US).

Brazil is the worst example. The president (Jair Bolsonaro) even refused to acknowledge the seriousness of the pandemic in the beginning. Even when the death toll crossed into tens of thousands, he refused to declare a nation-wide lockdown. On the other hand, India was among the first countries to declare a nation-wide lockdown. And it helped them in slowing down the spread (at least during the initial phase).

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 26, 2020, 02:11:55 PM

usa is now world number one with covid cases...... also usa is one the biggest in debt country !
and cases in counries wich is not so debted are lower......so ? i think it has something do with debt and i do think its smoke and mirrors!

I am not sure which country you are from, but if you look at the debt according to the countries GDP Japan has the most debt and Greece and Singapore comes in the top ten. The data is available for everyone to cross check and can you very well tell one country that is not affected by the pandemic, every country is struggling from the pandemic and it is not smoke and mirrors but there will be smoke and mirrors in the sense that the politicians will blame their failed policies on the economic struggle entirely on the pandemic.

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Quote from: jaysabi on September 26, 2020, 10:35:02 PM

Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 26, 2020, 02:11:55 PM

usa is now world number one with covid cases...... also usa is one the biggest in debt country !
and cases in counries wich is not so debted are lower......so ? i think it has something do with debt and i do think its smoke and mirrors!

It's not smoke and mirrors and it has nothing to do with debt. India and Brazil both have a good chance to pass the US in number of cases. India due to population density presenting a giant risk to the country and the total population gives a lot more potential infections, and Brazil because they have an idiotic leader who downplays the virus and is more content to ignore it than try to prevent the spread of it (shares this in common with the US, but more at risk I would say due to economic and structural weaknesses in the government compared to the US).

ok if you say so we should ask here members who knows more then we do? is any politic or economy society experts here?

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on September 26, 2020, 02:11:55 PM

usa is now world number one with covid cases...... also usa is one the biggest in debt country !
and cases in counries wich is not so debted are lower......so ? i think it has something do with debt and i do think its smoke and mirrors!

It's not smoke and mirrors and it has nothing to do with debt. India and Brazil both have a good chance to pass the US in number of cases. India due to population density presenting a giant risk to the country and the total population gives a lot more potential infections, and Brazil because they have an idiotic leader who downplays the virus and is more content to ignore it than try to prevent the spread of it (shares this in common with the US, but more at risk I would say due to economic and structural weaknesses in the government compared to the US).

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usa is now world number one with covid cases...... also usa is one the biggest in debt country !
and cases in counries wich is not so debted are lower......so ? i think it has something do with debt and i do think its smoke and mirrors!

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Somehow true. Actually, there's a lot of issues behind this covid-19 crisis. But, over thinking will only make us so depressed. So, we better left this issues behind, and think positively in order to survive. The virus is so deadly and I'm really scared about it. So, if we still want to survive, we just follow all the Governments guidelines and safety protocol. Its the least that we could do now, until the vaccine will soon be release.

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In other countries of the world these people are not working to maintain the social distance to protect themselves from the virus everyone is moving freely. Therefore adequate vaccination is their only antidote many sweden are aware that they have reduced the risk of contracting the virus in addition to other vaccines. So far no one was able to send in the perfect solution which is not strange behind in terms of vaccine discovery.

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Quote from: Emitdama on September 20, 2020, 09:02:53 AM

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Quote from: NavI_027 on August 28, 2020, 02:09:35 AM

I agree on everyone OP. Maybe you are now confused due to the series of unfortunate events but dude everything is real. So slap your face and wake up, the spread of this virus is not intended only just to hide the debt of certain country/s. I think a more believable story would be "manmade virus as a biological weapon" Grin

(but then again, it was only a conspiracy as well lol).

Yeah this is not intended to hide debt of countries that has large amount of credit,But if we have something to think about the spread
of this?is the Theory that China really made this virus to bring the world into crisis and they will offer hand to make those country
under His command since they have credits on them.
Look how easy they fought the Virus while the whole world is still suffering?
there is something to think about this
and for OP this is what he needs to Dig in deeper.

China can get over it very easily without just caring about it, we are talking about a nation who is run by propaganda all the time and even what you should think about is feed to you every single day, if you are someone who thinks differently something bad might happen to you, we have all seen the footage, people there think of CCP as the god or they die, we all know this.

Look at their country,they are growing and growing becoming a great nation.

and don't just look at what media can give you,I thought youa re from china but it seems that you are only relying on what youa re watching and reading in news.

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So, why wouldn't they get back to work when CCP tells them to go back to work? Why would they think shares should go down when media tells them it is great time to buy? When you have sheep that follows you around, it is easy to tell them go off a cliff, as long as you are the shepherd they will do what you tell them to do and China is exactly like that, a shepherd at the top and bunch of sheep doing what shepherd tells them to do.

if that is for the great of the country then why not?as long as the people are living and not violated their rights so be it.

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Quote from: rodskee on August 28, 2020, 07:52:36 AM

Quote from: NavI_027 on August 28, 2020, 02:09:35 AM

I agree on everyone OP. Maybe you are now confused due to the series of unfortunate events but dude everything is real. So slap your face and wake up, the spread of this virus is not intended only just to hide the debt of certain country/s. I think a more believable story would be "manmade virus as a biological weapon" Grin

(but then again, it was only a conspiracy as well lol).

Yeah this is not intended to hide debt of countries that has large amount of credit,But if we have something to think about the spread
of this?is the Theory that China really made this virus to bring the world into crisis and they will offer hand to make those country
under His command since they have credits on them.
Look how easy they fought the Virus while the whole world is still suffering?
there is something to think about this
and for OP this is what he needs to Dig in deeper.

China can get over it very easily without just caring about it, we are talking about a nation who is run by propaganda all the time and even what you should think about is feed to you every single day, if you are someone who thinks differently something bad might happen to you, we have all seen the footage, people there think of CCP as the god or they die, we all know this.

So, why wouldn't they get back to work when CCP tells them to go back to work? Why would they think shares should go down when media tells them it is great time to buy? When you have sheep that follows you around, it is easy to tell them go off a cliff, as long as you are the shepherd they will do what you tell them to do and China is exactly like that, a shepherd at the top and bunch of sheep doing what shepherd tells them to do.

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Quote from: Febo on September 05, 2020, 01:29:59 PM

There cant be 99.99% of people vaccinated. Some people cant vaccinate because that vaccine could even kill them or at least make them seriously ill. There is not that few people wit such conditions. All that need to take auto immune pills. I read some old researched that claimed that for covid-19 much lower population have to be immune for virus to spread. I am sure right now there are more accurate researched and virologists know how much of population will have to be vaccinated for virus to vanish. It is not 99% it is also not 90% but much less. Maybe 50%

50% may be too low. Because I have read journal articles, which claim that the spread of the virus can be stopped only if at least 70% of the population is immune to it. This can be either through a vaccination program, or through herd immunity. One of the few countries which tried the herd immunity approach was Sweden. And they are doing relatively well nowadays, with very few new deaths and infections.

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Quote from: Inkdatar on September 15, 2020, 06:34:32 PM

Quote from: Larelel on September 14, 2020, 05:37:45 AM

I think that in this moment of world lock-down, Governments dont have any other option than to increase debt in order to help economy survive and keep spinning. In the globalized world, each and every country will be strongly affected, without exemption

I’ve doubt to what Op said the government was never a smoke and mirrors just to hide during this pandemic. Many citizen even in our country very well know the truth that the debt is huge just to survive the economy. People these days are smart with the use of this technology. That's true the government has no choice to increase debt and it's needed to help people during this pandemic.

No country will use a pandemic just to smoke and mirrors their debt and other related problems, its like killing your own economy if you do that and having a debt during a pandemic specially if you're in a country who are not that rich or belong in the third world, debt is inevitable, it is a way of saving their citizens so the OP isn't smart, virus is a very dangerous thing and even the government will be pushed in its corner by the virus so thinking that they used it just to hide their debt is clearly not possible, OP's reason is to shallow.

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People will talk about this for decades, it will not be over anytime soon. Don't get me wrong, covid will eventually get a vaccine and a cure and everything will go back to normal, you think swine flu doesn't exist anymore? It still does exist and it still kills people, hell even common flu kills people but in th end we are talking about insignificant numbers that will not make the world stop, it is life goes on.

No what I mean is the "talk" of covid will continue, all the things it caused, all the debt it created, all the places bankrupted, all the people whose lives were crashed. We are still talking about 2008 aren't we? Did we suddenly stopped talking about it? No. We still continue our lives though, we didn't just rolled over and die just because there was 2008, we won't after 2020 neither.

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Quote from: Larelel on September 14, 2020, 05:37:45 AM

I think that in this moment of world lock-down, Governments dont have any other option than to increase debt in order to help economy survive and keep spinning. In the globalized world, each and every country will be strongly affected, without exemption

I’ve doubt to what Op said the government was never a smoke and mirrors just to hide during this pandemic. Many citizen even in our country very well know the truth that the debt is huge just to survive the economy. People these days are smart with the use of this technology. That's true the government has no choice to increase debt and it's needed to help people during this pandemic.

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