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Quote from: adzino on August 26, 2020, 03:40:18 PM

Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM

Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea

The rulers who run world are smart like me

But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?

Are you one of those guys that also say that the virus is just a hoax created by the liberals to tank the economy? lol.
So, how do you think this is helping the government to hide the "economic debt bubble" (not even sure if you exactly know what an debt bubble is) from the people/world? And you are saying people are *not* dying from this "covid fake Thing"? Please add more to your conspiracy theories. Start telling people that those who are dying are faking their death and is getting paid by the government to do so.. Roll Eyes

yes i belive it is so

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Quote from: mindrust on August 26, 2020, 06:37:46 AM

Covid19 is going to save the economy by killing lots of people that's for sure.

It's not really killing people at a rate that was seen during the influenza pandemic of 1918, and I think the media really hypes up the death tolls to make it seem like COVID-19 is deadlier than it is.

Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist by nature, but this pandemic certainly did a good job of taking everyone's attention away from the Trump impeachment discussion. If I recall correctly, that was being talked about quite a bit right before the media got fixated on coronavirus. And hell, it's put pretty much every other important news story on the back burner, including the rampant money-printing and debt accumulation. As I said, I'm not into conspiracy theories, but it was pretty damn convenient.

Just for the record, I don't think COVID-19 is a hoax or was manufactured by China (or anywhere else) for nefarious purposes. I just think the world's reaction to it has been way overblown.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM

Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea

The rulers who run world are smart like me

But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?

Are you one of those guys that also say that the virus is just a hoax created by the liberals to tank the economy? lol.
So, how do you think this is helping the government to hide the "economic debt bubble" (not even sure if you exactly know what an debt bubble is) from the people/world? And you are saying people are *not* dying from this "covid fake Thing"? Please add more to your conspiracy theories. Start telling people that those who are dying are faking their death and is getting paid by the government to do so.. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: mindrust on August 26, 2020, 06:37:46 AM

Covid19 is going to save the economy by killing lots of people that's for sure.

This is why some people suspected this pandemic to be unnatural because of this view. Some says that it was designed to lessen the world's population without firing a single missile or bomb, and without any country to blame. Covid is killing the economy at the moment, but once we gone through this the positive effect will be seen in the long run.

Quote from: mindrust on August 26, 2020, 06:37:46 AM

It is all around a well put solution. Burst the debt bubble, kill most of the elders and relieve the social security system, possibly change the banking system to a new one along the way...

ohh this is a good point, the coronavirus are prone to elders, in fact in our country the median of deaths by age is 65 which is appropriate age for having a social security pension.

Quote from: mindrust on August 26, 2020, 06:37:46 AM

It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.

I guess whether it comes naturally or not, this will be the gate of opening a new system especially in healthcare systems coz the poor healthcare system from different side of the world is proven to be ineffective in a catastrophic events.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM

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sorry.. I don't really like opinions that are only based on assumptions, please provide valid data because right now we are in a period of "hard to trust anyone"..

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 10:50:22 AM

Think about If You have to rule world

Not easy, If You make Good life for everyone it Will be mess!!

We need to do some sacrafices in world to sacrafice many to save few.
If anybody Will earn good money then nobody will work anymore.

People spend What They Don't have....
Middle class who is mostly brainless credit card chunkies.... Using mostly luxury and wealth what They Don't have.

I do undestood its not easy to rule world world is full of idiots and parasites

It indeed not easy at all. and base from your statement rulers are doing what they've think will going
to make things better for them to the point of sacrificing.
Hard job but it's realities that's happening right now, there are lots of fools and idiots who tend to be
smart but act like different at all.
You have to keep adjusting if you wanted to have a better world, if you are rounded of fools you need
to be more wiser and stronger to eradicate this foolishness.

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Quote from: lumeire on August 26, 2020, 11:55:31 AM

Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM

Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea

The rulers who run world are smart like me

But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?

The people who are telling that Covid is smokes and mirrors should pay a visit to the nearest COVID ward and should roam inside it without wearing any mask and then I can believe that it is just a hoax and I will support you too.
Covid is as real as any other disease and should not be taken lightly, ask those families who lost their loved ones who were fighting the COVID and the healthcare workers who are in danger every day working in the Covid-19 wards. You can see the fear in their eyes that they can get infected at any time, yet they are helping others.

I completely agree with you, because if people continue to take covid-19 so lightheartedly, then we will have even more problems and even more people will lose. The fact is that not all people who are carriers of this virus can get sick with it. Some people are simply carriers of this infection and they can cause illness and death of other people, while unaware that their ignorance of basic safety rules is doing so much harm.

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The sustainable development is like this.

Country and community has one purpose.

The purpose to provide one kind of Service or produce Something.

And Country wich has no purpose at all and not sustainable need to be closed and most or all population to move other location as labour force or other Type of Service purpose.

Its all about sustainable way to use resources.

I believe leaders of every country are smart and has a lot of plans and ways to sustain the economic status as well as the community during this pandemic. They will not allow their country to be destroyed by pandemic. Also that's why there is a leader on every country to lead the people and the economy so that their country will run with a purpose.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM

Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea

The rulers who run world are smart like me

But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?

The people who are telling that Covid is smokes and mirrors should pay a visit to the nearest COVID ward and should roam inside it without wearing any mask and then I can believe that it is just a hoax and I will support you too.
Covid is as real as any other disease and should not be taken lightly, ask those families who lost their loved ones who were fighting the COVID and the healthcare workers who are in danger every day working in the Covid-19 wards. You can see the fear in their eyes that they can get infected at any time, yet they are helping others.

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Quote from: AniviaBtc on August 26, 2020, 10:27:24 AM

But to be frank, they have the power and ability to control their economy because they are a business-minded community.

they have the power and ability to control their economy because they have slavery in China. You may see this as the perfect form of capitalism but like I said, you wouldn't want to start a new life from stratch in China.

Lots of people go to the US with nothing and can get a well paying job and a few smarter of them can even become millionaires in a few years. There are plenty of jobs in the US if you are a hard worker. Most homeless people in the US have chosen to be a homeless.

Good luck with trying to live like a human being in China. They won't give you that.

I'd suggest you to watch some documentaries about China. You'll get the picture pretty quickly.

***Don't get me wrong, the US is pretty fucked up in its own way but if I had to choose between them...***

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 10:21:03 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on August 26, 2020, 10:13:15 AM

Do we have the figures to at least give this conspiracy theory a little support? Otherwise, this is just another addition to the rising number of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID-19 which are totally baseless or at least backed by what seems to be coincidental figures and data.

You can't connect the dots?

I beg your pardon but I cannot even see a lot of dots. I can only see that there is COVID-19, which is simply a different coronavirus strain. There is also the fact that COVID-19 has quickly become a pandemic due to its being very infectious, with all countries in the world--rich and poor, powerful and weak, thickly populated and otherwise, buried in debt and not, and so on and so forth--having their domestic transmissions.

However, despite the spread of the virus all over the world, the mortality rate is very low. But this did not stop countries from implementing strict measures to put a check on the spread. And these measures are enough to cause a massive economic slump not just in selected countries but all over the globe.

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No wonder I haven't caught the virus, it must've seen my latest bank statement and saw that my bank account is almost full. Gonna have to open a new one soon.

Btw. Politics and Socienty called, they want their daily Covid-19 conspiracy thread back.

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Think about If You have to rule world

Not easy, If You make Good life for everyone it Will be mess!!

We need to do some sacrafices in world to sacrafice many to save few.
If anybody Will earn good money then nobody will work anymore.

People spend What They Don't have....
Middle class who is mostly brainless credit card chunkies.... Using mostly luxury and wealth what They Don't have.

I do undestood its not easy to rule world world is full of idiots and parasites

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Quote from: mindrust on August 26, 2020, 09:45:55 AM

Overpopulation is indeed a very big problem. China is not really in a good shape neither. I can guarantee you that you wouldn't want to live in China. Have you heard of their social credit system? You might wanna check that out. China is so fucked up.

I'm not that knowledgeable about that Social Credit System but I will spend some time to read about it.

And it is true that even if China is the number 1 manufacturer of those PPEs that is being used to fight the Covid-19, they are still having some struggles in their economy. But to be frank, they have the power and ability to control their economy because they are a business-minded community.

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Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM

Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea

The rulers who run world are smart like me

But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?

I am yet to see the ''figuring out'' that you have done in this case because it seems this is purely some connecting the dots which is something anyone can come up with just by simply watching the news and following the narratives without necessarily doing any research of sort. Most huge economies of the world are built on debts and that is not new to any one. And those economies are the most advanced which makes them more susceptible to the virus because of the level of intercountry trades that happened. So its a direct relationship that should not give room to any form of controversy.

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Quote from: Darker45 on August 26, 2020, 10:13:15 AM

Do we have the figures to at least give this conspiracy theory a little support? Otherwise, this is just another addition to the rising number of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID-19 which are totally baseless or at least backed by what seems to be coincidental figures and data.

You can't connect the dots?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 26, 2020, 09:48:14 AM

So if you are living in the USA 55 to 1 to get it and 1808 to die from it.

But it's still far from over in the US and those are really horrible odds, considering that a lot of people (elderly, obese, etc) have a much higher chance of bad outcomes.

Quote from: philipma1957 on August 26, 2020, 09:48:14 AM

area NJ = 8729 Sq Mi
area Sweden = 173,890 Sq Mi
[...]
So the low debt place works and lives.
the high debt place stays home and dies.

I bet population density and other factors (such as said population being woefully undisciplined and/or unhealthy) are to blame here. You can't seriously suggest that New Jersey was targeted because of debt. Why not West Virginia, since the debt (the federal part) is nearly the same?

Quote from: stompix on August 26, 2020, 09:53:18 AM

The Earth can even right now feed 10 billion, we're throwing so much food we could feed Europe on it, half of the world lacks proper agricultural machines, even Eastern Europe does, there is also a lack of efficiency in a lot of other manufacturing areas, and there is one more important fact.
Population growth is slowing down, we might now even reach 10 billion at all, look at what's happening in Asia or South America

This sucks. I was planning an ICO to build a Dyson sphere.

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Do we have the figures to at least give this conspiracy theory a little support? Otherwise, this is just another addition to the rising number of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID-19 which are totally baseless or at least backed by what seems to be coincidental figures and data.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 26, 2020, 09:48:14 AM

Quote from: cryptoboss2020 on August 26, 2020, 06:03:29 AM

Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea

The rulers who run world are smart like me

But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liquidity problem?

Actually this is a fairly good point. Based on the death numbers world wide the reaction is too high.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
...
Coronavirus Cases:
24,105,584

... Deaths:
824,406

...

24,105,584/8,000,000,000 = 331 to 10,000 catch it

824,406/8,000,000,000 = 9703 to die from it.

even a bad stat country say the usa

is 5,956,661/330,000,000 or a 55 to 1 shot to catch it
and 182,449 die or a 1808 to 1 shot to die from it.

So if you are living in the USA 55 to 1 to get it and 1808 to die from it.

and USA buried its economy

look at Sweden 87,072 caught it and 5,817 died from it.

compare to New Jersey USA 195,854 caught it and 16,058 died from it.

Sweden and New Jersey both have about same people 10,300,000 for Sweden 8,940,000 for New Jersey
but area varies 20x
area NJ = 8729 Sq Mi
area Sweden = 173,890 Sq Mi

So Sweden did no shutdowns to speak of
New Jersey had really strong shut downs

google stats say:

New Jersey debt load is 7,500 usd per person state debt plus 80,000 federal total of 87,000 a person
Sweden debt load is 17,885 euro that is 21000usd per person

So Sweden worked and they did not die much compared to NJ. Sweden did not shut down.

So the low debt place works and lives.
the high debt place stays home and dies.

Yes I think you are right

I think the Next debt bubble will pop off in Finland.
Finland have world one of the most hidden debt wich will come to the day light soon!

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 26, 2020, 09:16:08 AM

Resources are limited, people are increasing day by day. The born to died ratio is always in favor of the born. People who are born every second globally is higher than the people who are dying so in short, overpopulation is happening.
Like I said, resources is limited in the world so we need events like this for the economy to be saved. Its hard to think but that is the truth in this cruel world

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We're nowhere near that point, people have been saying this for centuries and here we are and there are still plenty of resources left.
It all started with Malthus and his theory of people dying from hunger as the Earth can't feed us all, but Malthus died in 1834, the first steam tractors appeared in 1860s.

Here is a collection of a few of those non-sense doom predictions:
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-spectacularly-wrong-apocalyptic-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-the-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-3/

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In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'
Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

The Earth can even right now feed 10 billion, we're throwing so much food we could feed Europe on it, half of the world lacks proper agricultural machines, even Eastern Europe does, there is also a lack of efficiency in a lot of other manufacturing areas, and there is one more important fact.
Population growth is slowing down, we might now even reach 10 billion at all, look at what's happening in Asia or South America

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