Topic: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! - page 7. (Read 1472 times)

You mean teachers were encouraging kids to gamble? OMG. I can't believe it's possible anywhere. Those teachers should be fired, in my opinion.


You are right. Well, not in my case. No one told me not to gamble when I was a kid, so, I didn't even know it was a bad thing to do. And I gambled once; three of us, 10-year-old kids chipped in on one lottery ticket, and we actually won like 10 times of the ticket price, but I'd never gambled since then until I was like 30. But maybe if I knew it was something forbidden for kids to do, I'd gamble more, idk.

Cant make out that conclusion though yet im a sports guy in elementary days which i do really have interest with NBA and this is what sport im really that a fan of, but you do have some point that sooner or later on which you would really be able to engage yourself into something like gambling or betting on which it could be avoidable depending on what kind of type of person are you.
There are really things which you cant really be able to resist on trying out on the time that curiosity would really be kicking in. Its up to you whether you would really be avoiding or would really be engaging on controlled manner. There are ones who could really just make out bets but occasionally, there are ones who would turn out to be a heavy bettor.

It would really be that according into your own interest and the severity of betting amount will really be according on how addicted you are with betting.
Its true that even on how hard our parents would really be doing such monitoring but due to easy access nowadays and too much exposure then its impossible that
you could totally hide it from them.

The gambler who had sports background in the school days will automatically get into the sportsbetting of the gambling sites.Because they may learn the specific sports rule at the time of playing during the school days.If the game is football the gambler may use the football in the sportsbetting by knowing the rules and the key star players of the international club.By the sports knowledge the children can easily earn the money from the gambling at their adult age.It was most important to earn more at the adult age.

During the years I mentioned, we were following many football matches with my high school friends and chatting about the teams by making predictions among ourselves. Later, we saw that a betting office was opened very close to our school and although we didn't meet the age criteria we wanted to try our luck in betting. We started betting easily because the staff of this business didn't request any identification information and ignored the minimum age rule set by the government for gambling. At the very beginning of the process, we were having fun among ourselves with very small amount of bets and winning a good amount of money based on making really successful predictions. Of course, over time this process turned into a gambling addiction and I became addicted to gambling when I was only 15 years old. Even though I only had pocket money during the periods I mentioned, I generally used all my money to bet but I definitely didn't bet with borrowed money.

This process continued for approximately 1.5 years and then with the ambition to give up this addiction I got rid of my gambling addiction in a very short time. This was a great success and a very important experience for me. Nowadays, gambling has become just an expensive fun method for me and I gamble only for fun within my budget in a disciplined manner.

As human beings whether we are child or an adult, we like to stake something valuable to us in order to prove our self right. We had this mentality even before gambling was invented. Where do you think people got the idea of gambling? It was already in us and some people thought that it could be a way of entertainment. So they took the idea and put a specific thing like money to bet on something and make it a game. And they created those game in a way so that they can also make money.

I think this is how gambling was invented. We like to stake something valuable to achieve something. It's in our nature. That's how a normal people operate. But those people who run a casino, took this opportunity and made it a business. So no one learns it rather it is already in our mind.

I see it like this. A single strand of thread could not be strong. But when you put thousands of threads together it becomes so much stronger. We like to bet on things in life which are so small that we don't even notice it. For that reason we can't describe it as a proper gambling because people have changed its meaning by making it a business. Those people who run gambling platforms have found a way to combine those threads to make it stronger and call it gambling. And that's how it is.

Makes sense. I must ask what was the trigger that got you started with gambling just a minor age of 15 ?
I personally think that if gambling is done within limits then it's actually good because it can make us happy if we gamble for fun.
But the problem arises when we cross our limits and it happens so easily with gambling that we tend to lose our control quickly.

There are a lot of advertisements scattered about gambling nowadays so don't be surprised, even small children now understand about gambling. Apart from that, I am also quite sure that there are many small children who see adults in their family gambling, this also triggers them curious about what is called gambling, it is difficult to make young children completely avoid gambling, all we can do is educate them about the dangers of gambling at an early age.

As someone who started gambling at the age of 15, I don't believe that restricting gambling advertisements is successful in keeping young individuals and kids away from gambling. The reason for this is that, unfortunately, gambling can enter our lives for various reasons not just because of an advertisement we saw. For example, the circle of friends is a very important factor in acquiring the gambling habit and this was the biggest factor in my turning to sports betting at a young age (almost kid). On the other hand, physical betting offices and physical casinos especially within the country can cause many young individuals to show interest in gambling. Especially, with the abuse of legal age restrictions by the staff of such businesses many people can easily access gambling and acquire the gambling habit. For this reason, I definitely don't think that restricting or blocking gambling ads is the only solution. Nowadays, when it is possible to acquire gambling habits due to many different reasons, restricting or completely banning gambling advertisements can only lead to a very small percentage of young people and kids turning to gambling. Unfortunately, it isn't possible to find a complete solution to this situation.

The government will be successful in this. That is a right way to stop under age gambling. I do not know many of the crypto casinos but ever since I came to this forum, I have know many of them. So, since I have know many ways to gamble, I can do it at my convenient. Disconnect the children from the source of hazard and they will be fine.

I do not believe that gambling is hereditary. It is a social activity that is learn. A newly born innocent child has no idea what is gambling until it is taught him by the society, directly or indirectly.

I agree with you. Gambling behavior must be embodied in human genetics, passing from generation to generation. Of course there is always a trigger that will enable the individual to display this behavior, but it's already there, inside him.

A psychoanalytic theory from Carl Jung will say it's part of the collective unconscious, and that indeed, it's hereditary through phylogenetics.

The fact gambling exists since the beginning of human civilizations leaves no doubts it's already inserted in our biological system.

Gambling goes back thousands of years. It is something that has become ingrained in many cultures. Passing laws to restrict it is not really going to change human behavior. Kids see gambling as a way to have fun and make some money. Even though they might be limited in legal gambling options they will still make bets amongst their friends. Online casinos might not have the ability to verify their customers' ages with full certainty so it is incumbent on their parents and guardians to monitor their activity and teach them responsibility.

At that time, the internet didn't exist, so children probably only paid attention to what people were doing. But as they get older, they make friends with different friends from different places. They are the ones who then introduce how to play gambling so that children who previously only considered gambling a normal thing become curious and want to try it with their friends. This can make them continue gambling at other times with other friends until they end up experiencing various problems after gambling.

Children easily imitate what adults do, so if they see how adults gamble, they will probably imitate their friends too. So you also need to pay attention to your interactions with friends so they don't try to gamble or do inappropriate things for their age.

That's a good point, but please don't forget that I didn't mean to say it is turning something that is unaccepted into being accepted. I guess my wording was imprecise. But I was more referring to bringing something that is not particularly welcome to something that is really in, like fashionable. I am also not talking about grown up people who have some least minimum of life experiences and can make educated choices on their own. Although I have to say that I think those who are really badly addicted with social consequences presumably might be older rather than younger because they put more existential money on the line. But making something fashionable for brains that are still essentially under development can have negative long-term consequences. This is particularly true for alcohol and drugs and I never like to see 15 or 16 years old teenagers getting wasted till the state of unconsciousness and on top of that consume some hard drugs. It happens anyway, but it is also the time when the brain undergoes important development as to how it will function in the future, and perceiving gambling as something ordinary at a very young age doesn't sufficiently consider the true consequences the activity can have.

By the way I am not against gambling, but that doesn't mean I can't put some effort into thinking about how it works in the brains of different people. There are lots of folks gambling occasionally and using it perfectly fine as their method to find some rest and relaxation. The same way I wouldn't be against people smoking weed, it it's for the right purpose without insidiously damaging their brain.

Exactly. That is pretty accurate. Here in my country gambling is like a chronic  disease that requires ongoing medical attention. Kids even in elementary days were involved in it. They were influenced by nonresponsible gamblers that perform gambling in an open field just like cockfighting, cara y cruz, card games and etc.

I think back then, and as a kids we have a lot of imagine, but we really don't know if that is gambling per se. I mean we could be just sitting in our front porch and then just decided to play something and later on it could involved money. So that's how kids are back in the days.

But with the advent of internet and it grow in the last 20 years or so, it's very different atmosphere now. For sure those who grew up in the 90's-2000's knows that the difference now. So it's very hard to control our kids right now, they have their mobile phone and can simply play and gamble anytime they want without us parents knowing it.

Back then in our community, kids didn't know about gambling until some other groups of people came and they introduced lots of varieties of games where you can bet your money. there was no internet back then and it would be a worse scenario if it happened today because there are no limits anymore and no one will gonna attempt to close them because it's not that easy to shut them down when they are online.

Then I can just add to what you said: it is important to correctly explain to children what gambling can do to someone who tries to do it. They may not even be aware of the effects of gambling on people's lives. But it is good that they have an idea that gambling is not good, especially for children who are not yet adults. We know that too.

Even if we are adults, there are others who are adults who believe that when gambling is done incorrectly, it also leads to bad results in the end, and most of them even develop addiction and even destroy personal relationships with family and other reasons. .  So what you mentioned is correct: they can be guided correctly as elders or their parents.

Regarding change of environment, it helps a long way to change the behaviors of a kid or child. But, if the child doesn't change his school maybe still attends same school despite living on a different street. He'll most likely spend time with his gambling school mates. That's for a child who is not yet involved in online gambling. But, gamble locally with school friends. As for the class of gambling underage. It can't be certain, if it's rich or middle class. Getting influenced to gamble, has no limit. A child from a rich home can mingle with other kids in school to participate in local gambling. Like staking money over an argument. His pocket money can also cause him to gamble. A child with little or no money, may not gamble, because he's got what else to do with his money. Where your point is very valid, is about his home environment. The rich children are being watched by servants and also the compound they live don't get much traffics; visitors. Hence they may not be exposed to such influence. But, you forget they also go to school. Where different classes of students from unique environments come to learn and teach each other. If their elder sibling engage in online gambling, then that rich child is also in trouble. They are equipped with gadgets with internet access, added to their pocket money. I think the rich children are more exposed to chances of gambling like the other kids in the low class neighborhood. No matter where we are, the society still locates us. It's not as if, the rich kids don't have friends who stay in poor areas. They do, and most often the rich influence the poor with the gambling attitude. Like allowing the other kids watch them play online gambling. Thereby exposing them to a higher gambling activity. Other than the type I mention on the thread. Which happens anywhere; rich or poor neighborhood. Arguments must erupt.

There is environmental influence to what people do because they are exposed to it as it is practically available in such environment. Just as you said, government can't do anything about that but only the parents can by leaving the area to another environment that they desire.

Gambling is always what is practice around neighborhood that are not so much of rich background. Although rich people play gambling but they are mostly adults maybe because they new about it from the young age while they lived in not so rich level. But as to young people, they are mostly from the neighborhood that are middle class range.

People can be naturally competitive, you can argue that it is in their nature, but that does not inherently mean that gambling is natural. It is a learned trait, in a society based around trading, that you can use things like an informational advantage and turn it into a game where each party has the opportunity to improve their current position if they make the correct decision. However most people will associate true gambling with financial gain and incentives, which are alien to children at an early age and it seems like the Australian government is taking the correct stance - especially with a lot of the cartoonish type casino games that are primarily on offer these days. You can even see that loot boxes become a form of gambling which should be discouraged, as they benefit the businesses behind it and not the end users.