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Gambling is inherent in us it is something we learn adapt and develop, since time immemorial we have been gambling because it is part of us and part of our feelings, the government can't stop people from gambling they can restrict platforms so they cannot lay openly and become addicted because it's our nature to be attracted on something that we are rewarded.
Gambling creates a feeling of excitement and satisfaction of conquering something, which is why the gambling industry is a multi-billion industry because it satisfies the needs of humanity, and that is the feeling of getting rewarded big for a smaller sum.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

Every child knows and loves games. I believe that this fact does not change, even when the child has become an adult. And that is basically 99% of what gambling is. Playing games, having fun. Although there is also the part about having to give up money in order to experience this "fun". Although I am more than sure that for most people, losing is never fun. In my own personal experience it is quite frustrating. But as adults, we understand the nature and risks of gambling games, so there cannot be any blame placed upon gambling itself.

But this part also has a destructive effect on children who grow up and start gambling with money in my opinion. Usually children like to compete and you don't have to offer them any incentive besides the fact that they can win the competition. Whether it is some board game or running or even rolling the dice, since we are talking about gambling here. They have an intrinsically driven motivation to win the competition either against themselves when the time is stopped for a run, or when they win against someone else. Once later in their lives when money comes into play, this intrinsic motivation starts to disappear. It is not the same fun anymore when there is no skin in the game besides their own will to win the competition and their proud.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

Every child knows and loves games. I believe that this fact does not change, even when the child has become an adult. And that is basically 99% of what gambling is. Playing games, having fun. Although there is also the part about having to give up money in order to experience this "fun". Although I am more than sure that for most people, losing is never fun. In my own personal experience it is quite frustrating. But as adults, we understand the nature and risks of gambling games, so there cannot be any blame placed upon gambling itself.
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Yeah, it's as simple as that and they learn easily how money works. Just take the example of them telling you to buy them toys and they understand that for one to take something they want, they need money on it. And from there, they already understand the basic economy that everyone is dealing with. Like I have shared about me being as a kid before, it's like in our entire neighborhood everyone gambles unnoticingly. Heck like it's a normal thing for the kids to gamble with their toys and even me, I have personally experienced that together with real money but in small amounts. I think the principle and thought there have developed as I grow up until I have realized that it's a big thing. And even the idea of gambling without even money for kids, like "if I pass the test, you do this". THat's sort of gambling already right and I am pretty sure that all of us went through that stage.

The gambling also the game,if the kids was grown by seeing the game by their parents.The kids automatically get the game without teaching by any people including their parents.If the gambler is rich with huge money,he will give more money to their childrens.So the kids had enough money to gamble from the holding money.If the kids play with the free money by their parents mean,it will not affect the family,if the kids play with the money from the parents credit cards means.It will be the big problem for the gambler because the kids use all the money limit of their parents credit card.So the gambling can be easily adopted by the gambler kids.
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It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

It is, it's on us and part of our revolution, humans are risk takers and even without knowledge of any games on casinos they can take challenges and bet on them, the government is not hiding from people what gambling is they know this in their heart like love or anger, the feeling of being challenged and going into a challenge is considered a definition of gambling.

The government is restricting people from gambling in casinos so they will not lose their hard-earned money, but they can bet with each other if they play with their friends and family, it's still gambling but not on a platform where there is a possibility to lose everything you've had. 
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I remember when I was still a kid and when and my friends any sport that we played, there was always that challenge to each other about betting. Yeah, pennies and small amounts only or even some toys on the stake. You're right that the kids have been doing that ever since without our knowledge because even us, we've done it in the past. Still, parental guidance is needed for these kids to let them understand the dangers of gambling when they're not yet grown up and they've become used to it. That should be the goal of every parents, and to let them know that when they used to it, that becomes an addiction and when it becomes an addiction, that's hard to control and they might do things that will make them ruin themselves for like when they get refused by their parents when they ask money, it might result to them having tantrums.
I think money is easily learned about by kids at very early ages. "You can buy this but you cannot buy this" can be enough for kid to learn how money works. So its normal they try to get money of their friend. I also think gaming is brainwired. So they can associate money to their games easily. It can start with "I win your money if I win the game". This is literally stone age version of gambling so. In summary I believe kids would be into gambling if they like games for sure. Its impossible for kids to not get familiar to concept of money as well.
Yeah, it's as simple as that and they learn easily how money works. Just take the example of them telling you to buy them toys and they understand that for one to take something they want, they need money on it. And from there, they already understand the basic economy that everyone is dealing with. Like I have shared about me being as a kid before, it's like in our entire neighborhood everyone gambles unnoticingly. Heck like it's a normal thing for the kids to gamble with their toys and even me, I have personally experienced that together with real money but in small amounts. I think the principle and thought there have developed as I grow up until I have realized that it's a big thing. And even the idea of gambling without even money for kids, like "if I pass the test, you do this". THat's sort of gambling already right and I am pretty sure that all of us went through that stage.
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I can also testify that gambling can be hereditary but when it comes to addiction, it’s a choice done by a gambler wherein his own environment had greatly influenced him to become an addicted gambler. Because in reality, no one gets addicted without his own will. He probably choses to be one of it because of his uncontrolled gambling urge and because of his mindset that gambling can bring him fortune and make him instantly rich.

It’s a good thing that government nowadays are limiting the ads in gambling in television but I don’t see it happening in social media. That is the reason why even minors still gain interest to explore in gambling because they often see gambling ads in their wall especially if their parents are actually using their phones to access gambling sites. This is an eye opener to us that if government cannot control minors from engaging in gambling, then parents should be more responsible to educate their children on the risks of gambling and as much as people never exposed them to any gambling scenario most especially with online gambling.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
Very well composed bud, and I perfectly understand the angle you are coming, and I definitely agree with you, if thought about deeply and critically, we will understand that gambling is linked to argument. This is like two or more people arguing about the possible outcome of something. This is exactly what gambling is all about, the only thing today is that everything is now digitalized that we no longer have to do the argue and bet manually.

I remember some time some years back, when there was a match being played between two teams, people cheering will argue and placed bet on which team they think will win the match, this bet will be done manually and the money given to someone there to hold till the end of the match, and after the match is finished, the money will be given to the person who predicted the score right.

But all the same, digitalization has changed everything, today, we no longer have to argue and bet openly like before, we do it online these days.
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No one would have thought that children could bet on such small things. It's like us when we were children where we often gathered and played with our friends. We can bet like them on small things that might not seem like gambling even though we are gambling. Maybe the difference is that when we were children, there were no technological advances like now where we still do physical activities more often than today's children who do more non-physical activities. Today's children are more busy with their devices connected to the internet, making it easier for them to see whatever they want. So it is not surprising that we can see some children saying let's bet easily even in front of adults. Those who are adults also never think that they are gambling and let them play with their friends.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

OK, I really understand what you are saying in this thread, there are several points that are interesting to me. So, let's flashback to when I was a child or teenager. When I was little, we didn't have cell phones, sophisticated games, or anything like that. However, there are many traditional games that we can play. either as a group, or one to one. In every game, we usually bet something. something is random, we can bet on the toys we have, or the loser will be punished. can run a few kilometers, or so on. When I was a teenager, I liked football. we seem to play just for entertainment, have fun with it, and spend a lot of time with our peers.

However, there are times when we will compete with other groups, other villages, or other schools, usually if there is an invitation to a match, it will always involve betting.  because at that time we were starting to grow up, money was a medium for betting.  at this point, no one taught us betting or gambling terms. but we did that, to increase our enthusiasm and excitement for playing and at the same time show that the team we have is great. In short, when I was little, cellphones weren't even available yet, by the time I was a teenager, cellphones and the internet were a luxury. In fact, even if there is a casino, to visit it we have to go miles away. 

This thread reminds me of the past. plus, and also want to clarify the first point you said in this thread. It's true, gambling has been around since we were little. taught or not, gradually we will know or get involved in simple betting and can reach the stage of playing in the casino. It's just that, I want to say a little from the first point you said. imagine, if the government just left it like that, without eliminating advertising, education, etc., what would happen next. However, even though such regulations have been implemented, they are still unable to stop it. At this point, I just want to clarify, the duty of the state as carried out by the Australian government, at least, is that they are trying to do their best to prevent children from being exposed to gambling at an early age.
although if we refer to my case or most people, without having to be taught we are used to such things.
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Addiction isn't hereditary like diabetics but the environment where they grew up is probably the factor that led them into that way.

I have that understanding too about how environment can easily influence children to do what they normally are not suppose to do. I wonder if the children of a wealthy man would say lets bet on it, like where would they learn that from? But children of ghetto are easily seeing all sorts of negative influence which becomes part of them till adulthood.

It is the environment that shapes people majorly in regards to social activities and influence, I don't think genes has a connection to gambling but the point is when the children sees the action of the parents, they learn either the good or the good aspect of what they see.

It's always the people surrounding the kids and the environment where they can easily learn all this stuff. Kids who live in the coastal marshes learn to swim as early as possible than those who live in the city whose opportunity to swim is just in the pools.

Kids living in a neighborhood filled with gamblers where the word "bet" is often spoken. They easily learn it even if their parents are not into it because kids bet against each other using the cards they collect. It's part of the games they play these days.


Moreso, if you live in some rural areas, there are some words used in those places including activities that you don't find in urban centers. I'm aware that some couples decide to relocate as soon as they are married and start bearing children because they don't want the kids to socialize in certain areas as a result of what they don't want the kids to imbibe.

Take for instance, rolling of dice and card games are the most common games of P2P betting in local areas and kids in such areas are more likely to pick such betting from their pairs. In schools of such areas, break time is to exhibit different vices that students easily learn from one another.

Definitely. Just less than a mile from where I live when I was a kid is a place known for gambling. As a kid I save my lunch money just so I could play there.

Although I rarely see my father gamble, I 'm already interested on what he do since they seem to be happy laughing with his friends while gambling. We kids find it comforting we do what our fathers do. I took his way of doing things even his smoking habit. Not really heriditary but we must have feel proud during that time we copy them.
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So what's the solution? you're only explain why the abolishing of gambling ads will not prevent kids to gamble which is correct, but there's no further action against that situation.

You need to know if betting and gambling are different, betting can be played without money while gambling needs money. "Betting" is really common for kids because it's fun, usually they have a challenge with punishment or reward e.g. there are 4 people who play UNO, the loser would be punched by the winners.
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It's good for parent to snif their noses in their children's business, and do not turn into tiger parenting because they will be scared d of you and start hiding stuffs from you, just know what they are up to and if gambling is part of what they are planning to do, relax and guide them right, it's better than raising alarm on them, this is something that has everything to do with the mind, so carefully let them know what's up with gambling.

If you use force it won't work, they will hide their plans from you and still engage in gambling at your back, I don't want my children to be into gambling at all, it will cause a heart break if they do, but the only way forward is to make them realize the true facts about gambling, and I already have a good plan for this, if it happens.

Gambling at a very young age is not a good thing, the feeling of you doing the right thing while been foolish will consume you, becoming an addict to gambling is a thing but becoming a young gambling addict is not good, the level of desperation at that small age could trigger some things that a old gambling addicts won't want to do.
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If gambling ads are banned and kids do not see such a thing, this will reduce the way kids are gambling. In my country as an example, there are gambling ads everywhere, on YouTube and TV channels, in a way kids can easily know that they can go online to gamble. It is true that gambling is in the mind of humans naturally, but the explanation of the kids that you explained is different from the land based and online gambling because there is nio way that can lead to addiction.
Or better yet, a better parenting because these external factors will always expose the kid to the things that any parents fear the most, no matter how protective you are, the best thing that you should do is to teach your kid the stuff that they need to know and the consequences of doing the actions, yes gambling would be difficult to explain but at the least you can probably find a way to talk to them about stuff. Teach them to think for themselves, basic morality and decency and dignity should be honed at an early age, I mean I've grown up with close to what I've said and look at me, I didn't stray too far on to the right path.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

1.It's true that some people are genetically more responsive towards addictions. Their brains react in a different way and it's easier for them to become addicted. This is a very long topic and I don't want to dive in. I'm no expect in psychology.
2.I've also heard kids saying "let's bet it" multiple times. That doesn't necessarily mean that they will become active gamblers when they grow up. They've probably seen their dads betting somewhere and they try to copy this behavior(or they saw people gambling in movies or TV series). I don't believe that gambling is embedded in our minds since we are born.
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I remember when I was still a kid and when and my friends any sport that we played, there was always that challenge to each other about betting. Yeah, pennies and small amounts only or even some toys on the stake. You're right that the kids have been doing that ever since without our knowledge because even us, we've done it in the past. Still, parental guidance is needed for these kids to let them understand the dangers of gambling when they're not yet grown up and they've become used to it. That should be the goal of every parents, and to let them know that when they used to it, that becomes an addiction and when it becomes an addiction, that's hard to control and they might do things that will make them ruin themselves for like when they get refused by their parents when they ask money, it might result to them having tantrums.
I think money is easily learned about by kids at very early ages. "You can buy this but you cannot buy this" can be enough for kid to learn how money works. So its normal they try to get money of their friend. I also think gaming is brainwired. So they can associate money to their games easily. It can start with "I win your money if I win the game". This is literally stone age version of gambling so. In summary I believe kids would be into gambling if they like games for sure. Its impossible for kids to not get familiar to concept of money as well.
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Do you know that it's good for someone who is underage not to participate in gambling but right now many people who is in gambling do participate in gambling just like that, which is not good, I don't know the reason children will engage in gambling, children participating in gambling is bad and it will lead to stealing, but I know that it will be very difficult for government to whoever that is onto gambling because gambling now is something you can be in home and gamble and it will be difficult for government to track whoever that gamble and know their age, I think this is one of the reasons why some gambling platform demands for KYC of their customers, I think with your ID card the gambling platform can denotes if you are underage or not.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"


Is there any study which proves that gambling nature in human? I have read one of the replies here, and I agree with he have mentioned. He said that it is not more of a concept of gambling, but rather it's about the emotions that we feel when we are taking risks. In my opinions, I refuse to believe that their people who are born gamblers, because for me, gambling is learned. And there are a lot of factors that might contribute why someone or even a kid would resort to gambling. It can be influenced by environmental factors, social factors, and economic factors. Because I believe that if a kid was not exposed to gambling, then he/she will not know gambling in the first place. It can be also about personal factors like being curious about it, and then try it later on. Because it is a human nature to seek for thrills and excitement. Moreover, there are more factors about this such as peer pressure, or they have seen it with their parents, or even in the community they belong. With all of these being said, I firmly believe that gambling is not inbuilt, rather it is something that we learn.
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I agree, this kind of betting seems inborn. I think even our ancestors are involved in this kind of settling disagreements and arguments. But this is a different kind of gambling. This is not gambling in casinos or betting on sports. I don't think the love of gambling in casinos is inborn. It is developed. But to offer something valuable against another person's valuable possession whenever a disagreement over something arises is probably as old as humanity.
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Addiction isn't hereditary like diabetics but the environment where they grew up is probably the factor that led them into that way.

I have that understanding too about how environment can easily influence children to do what they normally are not suppose to do. I wonder if the children of a wealthy man would say lets bet on it, like where would they learn that from? But children of ghetto are easily seeing all sorts of negative influence which becomes part of them till adulthood.

It is the environment that shapes people majorly in regards to social activities and influence, I don't think genes has a connection to gambling but the point is when the children sees the action of the parents, they learn either the good or the good aspect of what they see.

It's always the people surrounding the kids and the environment where they can easily learn all this stuff. Kids who live in the coastal marshes learn to swim as early as possible than those who live in the city whose opportunity to swim is just in the pools.

Kids living in a neighborhood filled with gamblers where the word "bet" is often spoken. They easily learn it even if their parents are not into it because kids bet against each other using the cards they collect. It's part of the games they play these days.


Moreso, if you live in some rural areas, there are some words used in those places including activities that you don't find in urban centers. I'm aware that some couples decide to relocate as soon as they are married and start bearing children because they don't want the kids to socialize in certain areas as a result of what they don't want the kids to imbibe.

Take for instance, rolling of dice and card games are the most common games of P2P betting in local areas and kids in such areas are more likely to pick such betting from their pairs. In schools of such areas, break time is to exhibit different vices that students easily learn from one another.
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