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Topic: I "Think" that I found Satoshi Nakamoto - page 10. (Read 10880 times)

newbie
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January 29, 2016, 01:15:06 PM
#24
@Mr.Felt - The wallet belongs to Dustin Trummel.

He wrote a detailed blog about the incident

http://blog.dustintrammell.com/2013/11/26/i-am-not-satoshi/

Had Ron and Shamir done even rudimentary research into the identities of said addresses, such as a search on the Bitcoin-OTC site, Bitcoin Talk forums, or even via a simple Google search, they could have easily found that the original very early source address in question (12higD) is, very publicly, one of mine and not one of Satoshi’s as they insinuate in their paper.  This has left many people on the Bitcoin Talk forums, Reddit, and elsewhere to speculate regarding the identity of the subsequent addresses that Bitcoins were sent to from my addresses, and the owners of such addresses, as Ron and Shamir’s paper insinuates that they are related to Silk Road.

hero member
Activity: 493
Merit: 518
January 29, 2016, 01:04:01 PM
#23
This is a good theory and I've looked at at least one of those people - check my post history (I think its in one my BCT posts anyway).  However, why is this theory better than any other (not saying its wrong, I do like this work)?  

This theory needs to account for some additional facts I think.  For example, how does it explain this:

https://cryptome.org/2013/11/bitcoin-pirate-nakamoto.pdf (you can find this document by searching Hacking Team's cache on wikileaks, along with some of their emails discussing the topic).

and these:

http://www.iamsatoshi.com/free-market-and-free-people/
http://www.iamsatoshi.com/blockchain-politics-peter-todd/

 
legendary
Activity: 3276
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Nec Recisa Recedit
January 29, 2016, 01:03:35 PM
#22
btc paper is more "elaborated" than this one... that is more likely a phd thesis.... in some crypto arguments...
I have write a post one time about "the technical" requirements for a paper like this... is not easy, absolutely!
Even impossible for only one researcher, or a "small" groups.
But good research! I like your findings about "Naka - Moto" really nice !
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
January 29, 2016, 12:44:52 PM
#21

Let's say for one moment this is not a joke and based on a real person... then we might have to prepare ourselves for another round of " Dorian

Nakamoto " It is one thing to finger fictitious people, but when the media catch wind of this, they will just go on a witch hunt again and ruin someone's

life again. I hope this is just some clickbait blog and not the real thing.... I would much prefer that Satoshi remain hidden... it adds to the Mystique.  
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
January 29, 2016, 12:42:19 PM
#20
Satoshi is the first name for many people from Japan. Satoshi is also the name of a animation character according to Wikipedia.

Ash Ketchum, known as Satoshi (サトシ?) in Japan, is a fictional character in the Pokémon franchise owned by Nintendo. He is the main protagonist of the Pokémon anime and manga series, as well as on various merchandise related to the franchise.
I doubt many people had this information in the western world, even more since any Pokemon fan would know that their creator's name was Satoshi Tajiri and that this information is much easier to find. And yes, I had the same idea that our Satoshi might have been a Pokemon fan when he was young  Cheesy (which would mean that he should be in his late twenties now).
Now I haven't read all the reasoning, since it's a lot of text, thus I don't know how right/wrong you are, but it seems like you invested a lot of time in this research. I feel a bit sad for Satoshi, though, who would like to remain anonymous but is tracked down by a large part of the community :-/
I guess this is the price of success.

You are making assumptions where they are not ready to be made. A pokemon fan does not have to be a kid, especially in a country like Japan. Adults watch anime all the time there, including pokemon.

Also, satoshi never specifically asked not to be traced. He just disappeared and never replied any more. This can be due to many reasons, one being that he doens't want to be found, but he could also have died for instance (even though that is highly unlikely).
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 1
January 29, 2016, 12:40:13 PM
#19
You are missing an important point here.

Satoshi mainly solved two important things

1. No Trusted Third Party

2. Solve Double Spending without a centralized third party.

The papers discusses both these things.

I quote Gavin from the fortune article.

"There was also a lot of talk back then about digital cash and whether there was a way to pay for things that doesn’t require you to trust a government or central authority. They never quite figured that part out. So all the ideas were there, but until Satoshi Nakamoto had this brilliant idea of how to solve the trust problem, it never really took off."

http://fortune.com/2015/01/22/qa-gavin-andresen-bitcoin-foundation/
legendary
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January 29, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
#18
I'm not Japanese.

Edit: Oops I've posted from wrong account.
legendary
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January 29, 2016, 12:33:41 PM
#17
https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/216.pdf

doesnt sound like bitcoin to me.

its not. even the writing style let alone the content being different. what the OP doesnt understand is that making currency is a game thats been played even as far back as the cavemen trading fruits for sexual favours with the cave women.

there are literally millions of people working on currency creation and thousands working on similar concepts.
whats next because satoshi said he was working on it since 2007.. and then the new theory of the 2007 paper the OP links to means they were working on it before 2007 (hint: which debunks the satoshi 18month idea by the way)

will the OP consider satoshi miscalculted his 18months.. to then work further back and maybe come across W, dai 1998.. or will the OP go back to 2008 and then try a different angle.

i can name atleast 50 people that had similar concepts between 2005-2008. and maybe a dozen before that.

happy hunting

sr. member
Activity: 469
Merit: 250
J
January 29, 2016, 12:33:13 PM
#16
https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/216.pdf

doesnt sound like bitcoin to me.

Yep:

Setup. This stage is executed by a bank only once for each coin value v = 2l−1 dollars.
1. The bank generates a chain of prime numbers p1, p2, . . . , pl+1 such that there exist
values νi < 2
k and pi+1 = νipi + 1 (i = 1, . . . , l), where k is a parameter.
Furthermore, the bank generates groups Gp1
, . . . , Gpl
such that Gpi
is a subgroup of
order pi of Z

pi+1
and Gpi =< gpi > (Gpi
is a cyclic group generated by gpi
).
Then the bank chooses elements h(1,0), h(1,1) ∈ Gp1
, h(2,0), h(2,1) ∈ Gp2
, . . ., h(l,0),
h(l,1) ∈ Gpl
such that discrete logarithms between them and their respective group’s
generators are unknown.
2. The bank creates an empty database for storing the history of deposited payments.
Each payment’s entry contains x-values and T -values for all leaves that are descendants
of a spent node and an additional value R (a pseudorandom number used in
the payment protocol – it will be discussed later).
The database should also enable efficient searching for x-values (e.g., it could be sorted
by x-values).
3. The bank sets up parameters for CL signatures (i.e., n = pq and a cyclic group G of
order n).
4. The bank chooses a group G of prime order p (p > pl+1), and picks its generators
g, gˆ ∈ G.
Then the bank makes all generated values public.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
January 29, 2016, 12:30:57 PM
#15
Holy crap!  I can't believe Ralph Waldo Emerson is Satoshi Nakamoto!!  It makes perfect sense though.  Look - a line of his poem "The over-soul" which can be roughly translated as "The block-chain": "We live in succession, in division, in parts, in particles."

 Also look at his poem "Nature":

 "A subtle chain of countless rings
 The next unto the farthest brings;
 The eye reads omens where it goes,
 And speaks all languages the rose;
 And, striving to be man, the worm
 Mounts through all the spires of form.
"


 and this from his "Introductory lecture on the Times":

"There is a perfect chain, — see it, or see it not, — of reforms emerging from the surrounding darkness, each cherishing some part of the general idea, and all must be seen, in order to do justice to any one. Seen in this their natural connection, they are sublime. The conscience of the Age demonstrates itself in this effort to raise the life of man by putting it in harmony with his idea of the Beautiful and the Just."  <--- that IS bitcoin! He nailed it!


 Excellent research!  I think you might be onto something there.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
January 29, 2016, 12:19:38 PM
#14
https://eprint.iacr.org/2007/216.pdf

doesnt sound like bitcoin to me.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1074
January 29, 2016, 12:10:41 PM
#13
So we can conclude from this that Adam Back was not Satoshi, if he communicated with him on his ideas. It is a very interesting angle on this whole

mystery and I would like to know a bit more. We can see that you put a lot of effort into your research and it shows in your final product. So what

happened to this student  ---> Pawel Pszona?  Roll Eyes ....While we playing with this idea, we might just entertain the possibility and have some fun.
sr. member
Activity: 469
Merit: 250
J
January 29, 2016, 12:03:46 PM
#12
I totally agree, he has every right to be anonymous.

But the man deserves to get credit for the greatest innovation of the century.

:sniffle:

 Kiss

Trust me, if you knew the piece of human excrement I had to deal with over it you'd understand, she'll never let me be happy. EVER
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 500
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January 29, 2016, 12:02:11 PM
#11
Good effort for what I see. Sometimes one just have to put some bait in the thread for other people to consider it. Although many say it does not matter who satoshi is (and I agree) it always brings about some interest Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1014
January 29, 2016, 11:56:42 AM
#10
It was worth reading, I thought this could have been just more clickbait nonsense, but was at least interesting. I like how you make the connections from the 2 japanese authors. But honestly, this is not final proof of anything. You could haven made the thread "I THINK I have found Satoshi Nakamoto" to make it little bit less click baitish.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 1
January 29, 2016, 11:52:54 AM
#9
I totally agree, he has every right to be anonymous.

But the man deserves to get credit for the greatest innovation of the century.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!
January 29, 2016, 11:51:58 AM
#8
Hi Folks,

I am happy to share with you that I finally found our Satoshi Nakamoto based on July 2007 paper submitted to International Association for Cryptography Research (IACR) . This paper has many similarities to Bitcoin white paper 2008.

I wrote a blog about my complete research "finding Satoshi" in 7 chapters.

You can read here

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/bitcoin-founder-unmasked/


Start reading from Chapter 1 - The Usual Suspects to understand the complete story.

https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/the-usual-suspects/



Let me know know your comments.

Thanks,
Bounty Hunter.

Welcome to the forum Bounty Hunter.
Really interesting first post, thanks for helping find the real Satoshi.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1004
January 29, 2016, 11:49:06 AM
#7
OMG! Here we go again! When are we leaving the crew (because it's certainly not a single individual) who created the paper alone? Bitcoin is the product of community developement, not just from a single individual!


I am sure that it is a single person. I always said that to me, and if it was proved that it was a group of person, I'd have an heart attack Grin !
hero member
Activity: 2016
Merit: 721
January 29, 2016, 11:48:06 AM
#6
Satoshi is the first name for many people from Japan. Satoshi is also the name of a animation character according to Wikipedia.

Ash Ketchum, known as Satoshi (サトシ?) in Japan, is a fictional character in the Pokémon franchise owned by Nintendo. He is the main protagonist of the Pokémon anime and manga series, as well as on various merchandise related to the franchise.
I doubt many people had this information in the western world, even more since any Pokemon fan would know that their creator's name was Satoshi Tajiri and that this information is much easier to find. And yes, I had the same idea that our Satoshi might have been a Pokemon fan when he was young  Cheesy (which would mean that he should be in his late twenties now).
Now I haven't read all the reasoning, since it's a lot of text, thus I don't know how right/wrong you are, but it seems like you invested a lot of time in this research. I feel a bit sad for Satoshi, though, who would like to remain anonymous but is tracked down by a large part of the community :-/
I guess this is the price of success.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
Blocklancer - Freelance on the Blockchain
January 29, 2016, 11:46:31 AM
#5
Nice research and good articless but this may be pointless to debate
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