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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on March 20, 2023, 07:08:52 AM

So, luck plays a very good role in business, but before the luck can shine on you, you must have done your part in terms of the capital, human resources, marketing and managerial aspect amongst others.

What do you mean luck plays a role in doing business?
In the business world there is no such thing as luck, what is there is a strong will and intention because determination and intention are factors for success in running a business not only in the gambling business but also in other businesses.
What's more, the gambling business really requires persistence in developing it because it requires a lot of funds as well as a big responsibility where every team or casino owner must be able to work together to build a better casino.
The average businessman is someone who has tasted the bitterness of the industrial world because then they have quite a lot of experience and can dare to make decisions and take risks in building every business they run.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on March 20, 2023, 05:11:56 AM

We all know that some rich people had to deal in shady business dealings to come out at the top. I know of legit businesses that had to pay bribes to government officials to get large government tenders... but they have to do that, because that is the way that the world is changing.

You will also find that some online casinos are only a front for criminal cartels to launder money. They stay small and operate under the radar, but they are pushing a lot of dirty money through those casinos. Roll Eyes

There's no clean business if is being managed by a corrupt individual, even charity organization in my country are being accused of corruption and they are just using this foundation to avoid paying huge taxes, so basically every businesses have their own dark story so that they can stay in this market full of challenges. In gambling, I expect more and yes laundering are also possible even if they follow the regulations I think some site are still not afraid on doing this, because they can own more by doing this.

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I think that's a different kind of bet. It's not really something us people who gamble in casinos are doing exactly, those bets of theirs undergo a lot of thorough decision making and even if they are unsure of what the result would be, it isn't exactly a result that ONLY relies on luck, it relies on a lot of other factors together with said luck. You can never relate or use whatever techniques people use to form successful businesses in gambling, heck, I don't think gambling even enters the picture when thinking of building a business. That's a pretty narrow point and way of seeing things imo.

I also wouldn't really call it "dark", it's a secret yes, but I reckon some of them don't have that kind of darkness, at least in the early parts of their business career.

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Quote from: Maxre on March 18, 2023, 02:41:46 PM

Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
I want to tell you a story of Successful Businessman in country who is Real Estate businessman and Rich people love to Invest in their housing Schemes. But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
And Normal people do not know these kind of Secrets behind all of this and also on Gambling thing where a very minority of people gets succeeded.
I know that a lot of OP will not agree with me and let's see what are your opinions.

Your opinion doesn't have to align with other people have in mind and besides, this is a faceless forum, everyone is free to air their opinion. You see the journey of most of these successful people, the road to that peak isn't always as society portrays about them, if they are not into one or two dirty games, it is likely that there is someone doing the dirty for them on underground. It is likely that they are unaware of the magnitude of the dirty games that have been played in order for them to get to where they are. Look at the banks, is there any affluent business mogul who does not have a coalition with the banks? In reality, they own the majority of these banks and choose CEOs under aliases to conceal the true identity of ownership. I don't wager on things I don't believe in, and most of the time, I don't believe them.

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In my observation, I see all immense businesses are the only place where secrets are been inconspicuous, and why is it so? Because that's the only thing that makes their businesses explore more and since the business is owned by a successful man who has leverage even from the government authorities, the poor who do suffer from their conditions will be tight-lipped because no one to speak on their behalf.

I agree every form of success requires some level of deep secrete and the level of the secret determined the impact and growth profits of the business, let's just get used to that no business can succeed without some form of secret success tips.

I'm of a different opinion here, at least it's not all businesses that have secrets attached to them, the success of many businesses is open, and it's all about what people see and hear all the time by motivators. The secret of businesses is sometimes overpraised, thinking it's the best doing of the driving force behind the business, but they might just be lucky at times.

So, luck plays a very good role in business, but before the luck can shine on you, you must have done your part in terms of the capital, human resources, marketing and managerial aspect amongst others.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on March 20, 2023, 05:15:21 AM

I think those secrets are not dark but mainly grey. I am sure that some gambling businesses seek exploits in law that would benefit them. But its not that something bad or something dark. Everyone would exploit a chance if given for no appearant reason other than his/her own benefits. If a gambling business make millions to billions of dollars through a method which gives them legal loophole I would not blame them. It would be a secret but yeah, not something illegal in theory.

It's similar like tax avoidance and tax evasion where that's a way to minimize paying tax, but tax avoidance is legal while tax evasion is illegal.

If the casino exploiting a legal loophole, they're not wrong because they're already follow the rule and they're not trying to hide it. Anyway it's not only happen on casino or business, but we as a civilians are still taking advantage over our country's law. Example when the government giving away free food, if there's no rule one person only allowed take one portion, we can take all the foods and sell it Cheesy

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If it was meant for the public to learn it won't have been called "secret" and if was genuine it won't have been prefixed with "dark".

Most of us only want to hear about the success of others but don't care to ask about what was done to achieve or get to that success. And yet we feel bothered when we finally learn that their way is not pure.

In my country, we have so many young ones that are being corrupted because of the desire to be like those in the society, those that go around driving luxurious cars, and yet no one knows the source of their wealth. I think it's time we stick to this phrase "be contented with what you have".

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I think those secrets are not dark but mainly grey. I am sure that some gambling businesses seek exploits in law that would benefit them. But its not that something bad or something dark. Everyone would exploit a chance if given for no appearant reason other than his/her own benefits. If a gambling business make millions to billions of dollars through a method which gives them legal loophole I would not blame them. It would be a secret but yeah, not something illegal in theory.

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We all know that some rich people had to deal in shady business dealings to come out at the top. I know of legit businesses that had to pay bribes to government officials to get large government tenders... but they have to do that, because that is the way that the world is changing.

You will also find that some online casinos are only a front for criminal cartels to launder money. They stay small and operate under the radar, but they are pushing a lot of dirty money through those casinos. Roll Eyes

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Many successful people have dark secrets behind them, but it doesn't mean that to be successful in life you need to have a dark secret yourself, this is not right.

It's not like all world successful people have dark secrets, some of them are blessed naturally, some came from rich families while some rise to stardom, without using any form of darkness.

If anyone believes that, to be successful they have to go dark, the blame is on them, they are too blind to see and they decide to go bad because they believe that's how world successful men are been made.

On the side of gambling life, there is always a secret, this is certain, I have heard some dark stories about Las Vega's big bosses, and come to think of it, gambling isn't always pure, most times it's cruel and stinky at the same time, not the online ones but the local dens.

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someone who owns a business and becomes bigger and successful it's all because there is a very big will and intention. because all the keys to success are in ourselves to dare to try and always dare to take risks whatever happens when setting up a business.

like a gambler who now owns his own gambling business when at first he was just a compulsive gambler thinking of finding other advantages from gambling. finally he thought about making his own gambling business after that he made it happen himself with big intentions and dared to take risks.

for me a businessman who is afraid to take risks, I think his business will not progress because he does not want to try something that makes his business bigger.

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Quote from: tabas on March 19, 2023, 07:06:53 PM

You mean like in gambling it's a dark secret that there are losers and winners? I have idea about the other dark secrets that do happen in physical casinos where you'll just get to see it there once you're already there. And it's funny that these days, these videos on socials have been popping on my feed and showing those dark secrets which are no longer secret anymore as it becomes a norm. Well, that's it, it could be dark secrets for the new ones that have just found it out but it's not actually hidden thing these days.

I think what is meant by this dark secret is about how a business owner can get such a fortune that he can run his casino or what is behind the casino entrepreneur so that he can grow his business so big because we know that competition in the gambling business in cities regulations that allow gambling is very strict. Hence, it is not easy for business owners to develop their gambling business.

But I believe that every business owner must have dark secrets that he keeps for himself or those who are close to him. And we also don't have to try to find out and it's best to let it be their dark secret. We better play gambling and just enjoy it.

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Quote from: Maxre on March 18, 2023, 02:41:46 PM

Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.

They didn't became what they are because of betting. I found quora post about Gates playing poker which appears he used to play for fun, as long as you gamble for fun it's fine.

Zuckerberg and gambling, source?

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 19, 2023, 10:14:22 PM

There are dark secrets everywhere, not just in every successful business. There are also dark secrets in every failed business. There are also dark secrets in businesses that never saw the day. I mean dark secrets are everywhere.

Can you name billionaires the level of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who became successful because of betting? Is there even one? If some became billionaires because of betting, it's probably because they're involved in the casino business, not just because they're betting or gambling.

I agree, I do not understand how this could be news to anyone, it is well known that Bill Gates used all kind of monopolistic tactics to make Microsoft what it is today, and the same is probably true for Google, Facebook or any tech company of today.

The most interesting question is where was the government when all of this happened? Governments are supposed to stop monopolistic practices and not only they failed to do this they even benefit from this, as those companies give their information to the governments and they monitor their population in this way.

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There are dark secrets everywhere, not just in every successful business. There are also dark secrets in every failed business. There are also dark secrets in businesses that never saw the day. I mean dark secrets are everywhere.

Can you name billionaires the level of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who became successful because of betting? Is there even one? If some became billionaires because of betting, it's probably because they're involved in the casino business, not just because they're betting or gambling.

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In my point of view it is not correct to talk about in a wide way or refer to this mater to dark secrets of the "business", but refer to it as dark secrets of "companies".

Legal and everyday businesses are neutral, but there are companies and entities which are willing to go into devious practices to increase their profitability, and that does not only happen in housing or gambling, but also in food industry, science & technology, etc.

While there are meat companies that treat their animals as humanely as possible, others are brutal to them for the sake of production.

While there are banks who seek for a steady and safe growth for their capital and their clients', there are others which are willing to gamble and risk it.

And in those circumstances, it is fertile ground for things like bribery, death threats,etc.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on March 19, 2023, 06:27:40 PM

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You can call it mystical because that is what some people believe it to be, but to me, it's just a bit of false logic. I find it difficult to believe such stories. Dark secrets bullshit. All I know is that most successful men have some hidden tips and stories about their success. Let's just take for instance the movie I watched, where two staffers who were working in the same office, but one was buying shares in an oil company without telling his college about his investment, got to a point where he became the number one shareholder of that company, and when his money was ripe, he bought the company where he was working and became the boss to his college. These are just things that successful people do; they would not tell you everything, and they always have something they are not saying that makes their success grow, but not dark secrets.

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You mean like in gambling it's a dark secret that there are losers and winners? I have idea about the other dark secrets that do happen in physical casinos where you'll just get to see it there once you're already there. And it's funny that these days, these videos on socials have been popping on my feed and showing those dark secrets which are no longer secret anymore as it becomes a norm. Well, that's it, it could be dark secrets for the new ones that have just found it out but it's not actually hidden thing these days.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 19, 2023, 04:23:03 PM

There was a billionaire man in my country who people thought had some dark secrets behind his wealth because he always lost someone in his family every year, but that was just some coincidences, the man was plain and transparent, and there was nothing dark that was linked to his wealth from all his doings. Apart from that, there is no bad incident I have heard; most times, it is just what people choose to believe because of what they see.

Does this have something to do with the mystical? Actually I don't want to discuss things like this, but it seems interesting if we talk about things that are beyond logic.
I heard that in some remote places there are indeed many stories that are exactly like what you told, starting from sacrificing family members to achieve wealth. I actually believe or not believe in this kind of thing, but indeed many people talk about it and from a visible point of view, the story is indeed in line with what is seen from that person.
I want to ask the people here, is it true, or is it just a myth that has been exaggerated? Grin

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This could be more possible in gambling business, but other market might be different.
Maybe they are just window dressing their financial status so they can attract more investors and I guess most of the company are doing this and they are not declaring their actual transactions just to avoid paying huge taxes. I also believe that most of the business have their own dark secret, most of them are greedy as well. Anyway, as long as you are not affected by this you should care less, and in gambling as long as the site is paying and its fairness is still ok, you can still proceed.

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