I think that there are Dark secrets in every Successful Business - page 3.

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Quote from: Maxre on March 18, 2023, 02:41:46 PM

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People can do good things and bad things but I highly disagree that every successful business progress because they do underhand tactics and abuse people to the point of committing crimes. Not all businessman or company owner are crooked, others often offers charity works to the community as way of paying back to the people who help them grow.

Besides, if your argument about people getting successful because they do gambling, I think you are wrong to think that gambling is a criminal act. In many country, gambling is legal, even establishing gambling platform and establishment is encouraged because it helps in the nation's growth and development.

All these so called dark secret are just rumors unless proven by proofs.

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There was a billionaire man in my country who people thought had some dark secrets behind his wealth because he always lost someone in his family every year, but that was just some coincidences, the man was plain and transparent, and there was nothing dark that was linked to his wealth from all his doings. Apart from that, there is no bad incident I have heard; most times, it is just what people choose to believe because of what they see.

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Quote from: KiaKia on March 19, 2023, 03:26:25 PM

Not all businessmen are dirty, and you don't have to get your hands dirty in your business to be successful, this is a wrong way of thinking, I do not agree because I have my conscience, I can't ruin people's lives because I want to be successful and not ruining peoples life won't stop me from been successful either, those who have dark secrets believe that this is the only way to turn the table around, they took a short cut instead, it depends on your belief, what you believe in is what will work for you.

Not all businessmen have to go thru their dirty laundry. Some are just happy with what they have.
So yes, not all of them are hiding something to uplift their standards in the chosen market.
There will always be rumors on what these rich businessmen have to go thru, but it doesn't define this type of people in general.
Also, if you belong to their category, the important thing is your conscience is clear so you can live your life without looking on your shoulder.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 18, 2023, 04:06:15 PM

I’m not sure if I would categorize gambling as having dark secrets. Most casinos are pretty open about the fact that they make lots of money, and some of them even clearly display odds so that players aren’t misled about the possibilities. I guess their secrets would be things like no clocks and exits that take you through a maze to get out of the casino, but even those are fairly well known.

frankly speaking I really don't get what op is trying to derived. What op is saying does not have affliction with sport and gambling. Op is talking about business which is a general phenomenon, and this not the first time I have been hearing such allegations against rich people in the world. This has been argued in many occasions. Casino is very far from what op is saying. Let come the business, I will disagree with op that casino cannot be categorized with the businessmen that are rich which have secrecy in their businesses. Though casinos might involved in one thing to the other. I will only agree on the aspect that businessmen are secretly involved in one thing to the other, yes because they are in cartel and they are the cause of inflation which the ordinary people suffer in the society.

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Not all businessmen are dirty, and you don't have to get your hands dirty in your business to be successful, this is a wrong way of thinking, I do not agree because I have my conscience, I can't ruin people's lives because I want to be successful and not ruining peoples life won't stop me from been successful either, those who have dark secrets believe that this is the only way to turn the table around, they took a short cut instead, it depends on your belief, what you believe in is what will work for you.

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Quote from: uche6215 on March 18, 2023, 04:47:02 PM

In my observation, I see all immense businesses are the only place where secrets are been inconspicuous, and why is it so? Because that's the only thing that makes their businesses explore more and since the business is owned by a successful man who has leverage even from the government authorities, the poor who do suffer from their conditions will be tight-lipped because no one to speak on their behalf.

I agree every form of success requires some level of deep secrete and the level of the secret determined the impact and growth profits of the business, let's just get used to that no business can succeed without some form of secret success tips.

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You may call it dark secrets but what I actually see is some of them taking advantage of the ignorance of the people that's why they were successful. I guess everyone of them has it–because if they aren't too hard for the others then someone will and they weren't on that position if they were too soft. I guess this is what they call as sacrifices in order to gain something at the top.

I agree with the reply above that some may have ethics in doing business while the others don't. And gambling isn't really ethical if you think about it because they have the right to ban someone if they saw it's getting a lot of money from them but they aren't doing dirty tricks so that people would actually lost their money to them. Just put it as an entertainment or a payment for their enjoyable stay in a casino.

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Quote from: cabron on March 18, 2023, 03:01:33 PM

What they are saying about someone has to lose something for the winning to win big. The real estate business must be a dirty business for some powerful men. For him to have access to acres of land, he has to make people sell.

I saw the documentary about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos buying up the farmlands, they are a few of the rich who could really implement a smart city on thier own land.

I agree, in order for you to succeed to something we need to let go some thing because we cannot do all the things at once. In all aspects, every businessman has their own way to make their business successful whether in a good way or not. Real estate is kinda dirty in some way yes, some people will get other clients such like that. Some rich people here in US bought farm lands so that they can convert it into subdivision or private property.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on March 19, 2023, 08:31:57 AM

I agree that successful businesses have secrets, but not all the secrets are dark secrets like you are suggesting. There are trade secrets and strategies that businesses have discovered over the years from their experience in the trade, these trade secrets and strategies give them an edge over all other business in that line that maybe just started or have been operational since.

Yeah absolutely, I agree with you. Every company, every entrepreneur, just like every human has secrets, and has things specific to its functioning that it does not share with others.
However, not all secrets are darks secrets, and fortunately!

Why would we think that ? There are just some people who have invested well, others who are creative, exceptionally intelligent, or just plain lucky. Some just inherited a fortune and started a successful business. While many successful businesses must have things to hide, dark secrets, I don't think you can generalize that to a universal law.

What is true is that people and companies that don't worry a lot about laws and morals tend to grow faster and perhaps miss fewer opportunities than others. But this does not negate the success of all the others who have remained honest

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I don't want to know the dark secret of every successful entrepreneur and let it be their dark secret. I just want to know how they can achieve that success and there are even some successful entrepreneurs out there, some who can reach it at a young age so they can already get passive income from their business. That's why we have to explore them to learn more from them.

I'm sure they will not tell their dark secret in running their business because it is their secret. We can only learn from the experiences and knowledge they share with the public so that the public can learn and apply their methods based on the current situation.

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Quote from: Maxre on March 18, 2023, 02:41:46 PM

My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.

Mostly people care that you are successful, but do not care how you became successful.

I agree that successful businesses have secrets, but not all the secrets are dark secrets like you are suggesting. There are trade secrets and strategies that businesses have discovered over the years from their experience in the trade, these trade secrets and strategies give them an edge over all other business in that line that maybe just started or have been operational since.

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Nothing good comes easily as there re prices paid for every success achieved and gambling isn't exempted and most times, you must have heard of People talking so ill about gambling and gamblers, that's not because all gamblers or gambling ate evil but because people know how much risk gamblers are willing to take just to attain success and stay relevant.
For everything that we, has its consequences and there is also this saying that success comes from hard work and commitment and we really don't know how much effort or sacrifice they might have offered.

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Real life and the business world are so exciting so at that we must apply same rule to both, if you must succeed in anything, there is a price to be paid for every success is recorded, and not everything is explained in the public posts, there are some unexplainable experiences that are part of the success story.

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Quote from: cabron on March 18, 2023, 03:01:33 PM

What they are saying about someone has to lose something for the winning to win big. The real estate business must be a dirty business for some powerful men. For him to have access to acres of land, he has to make people sell.

I saw the documentary about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos buying up the farmlands, they are a few of the rich who could really implement a smart city on thier own land.

Rich always win because they have capability to buy what they think can generate them more profit from their acquired resources. And as long as those farmland paid according to its current value within the good will of farmers I guess nothing wrong with it. But we can't deny that other are forced to do it maybe due to financial crisis happened to them and those rich people take advantage with it to get what they want then this is how they do their dirty work since they can take advantage on several situations of poor people.

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Quote from: Maxre on March 18, 2023, 02:41:46 PM

But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.

But he has a right with the valuable land since he's a partially a landlord, it's not like he has no any portion of the land and he's create a fake document for claiming if the land is owned by him. What I heard is when the poor want to sell his house or land, the rich will force him to sell at the cheap price, since the poor has no option, he sell it for cheap. The rich will get a good house with cheap price and he can sell it at higher price.

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Quote from: Maxre on March 18, 2023, 02:41:46 PM

My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.

This need not be the case in all cases but I assume it is the case in many. Gucci, for example, spent many years evading taxes, which allowed the company to grow faster and accumulate more wealth for its owners. But the fact that things were done badly at the beginning does not mean that they are still being done today.

Gambling, for example, has always been linked to crime, mafias and money laundering, whereas today it is a regulated business, and in some cases a state-run business, as is the case with lotteries in Spain.

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In a business, there must be a dark secret that not many people know about and unfortunately, those successful business people don't say this and pretend that they are all clean and not involved in these dark things. It's possible that they still carry out this secret in running their business because we don't know the details about the business and only hear that they are successful people from one or several businesses.

That is no exception in the gambling business. With so much money circulating in the gambling business, it must have many secrets that we don't know. And we as ordinary people, also don't need to think about it seriously because it's difficult to get to the truth unless the casino owners want to reveal it to the public. But even if he disclosed it to the public, the other casino owners would deny it.

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Whether it is on business or in gambling in general, there are still dark secrets into it.
These are secrets that any normal people don't know, but on the other hand, they're the ones that are suffering because of what the rich can do to them.

As for dark secrets in gambling, there are some, but I believe the main reason why only a minor number of gamblers are winning is because of how they see gambling, and how they approach gambling. Most of the gamblers sees gambling as their way to financial freedom, and that isn't the correct way of seeing it. Many gamblers sees it as a way for them to make profit though there's nothing wrong with it, but that kind of thinking makes the majority of the gamblers lose more money.

For sure there are secrets in every business including gambling itself, but businessmen and casino owners worked hard for it, and they deserved what they achieved.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on March 18, 2023, 02:50:41 PM

This is business and their intention of doing is to make money some people have their own ethics which may not harm others for their benefits while others don't have such and only concentrate on their profits, so this isn't limited to gambling every business sector has dark secrets too so as sn individual its important to understand every nook and corner before landing there as a business.

All businesses have a secret strategy and a successful business depends on that secret. And if everyone knew the same secret and went into business with the same secret, everyone would be a successful businessmen. Different businesses require different strategies. And in order to survive in the market with business, it is necessary to adopt more different and better quality strategy than other competitors. To do business always plan, product selection, future plan, product quality, in such a way that it can attract customers. And be better than other competitors. Then a company's brand value will increase and it can be successful

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I can't say it is actually a dark secret, it's more like businessmen taking advantage of people's ignorance for their own good and because of greed. And most people don't usually point it out because it's just there and it will be hard to take it out of the system. Successful businesses actually root from dedicated entrepreneurs who are willing to do everything. Business is not for purely kindhearted person, I think.

Quote from: ralle14 on March 18, 2023, 08:33:30 PM

It's possible that some successful business has their own dark secret but assuming every successful business is a bit of a stretch. I still agree with your point about these secrets but there's no way to guarantee that all successful businesses have them.

The story you mentioned reminded me of how certain casinos try to bait their customers with their bonuses which can be misleading at times due to the rollover they require. This way it's not about the dark secret anymore but more about the people having less information on the risks they're taking.

All businesses have flaws and dirty secrets. They are not perfect. It is just about how they they hire the right persons and make things legal.

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