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Quote from: Nrcewker on August 26, 2023, 03:14:14 AM

This can only possible in countries where Bitcoins are legal. Else if you ask for giving in Bitcoins in countries where Bitcoins are not legalised, then most of the time people won’t be aware of what Bitcoins are.

There is no correlation between the legalization of Bitcoin and people's knowledge of it. Bitcoin, on the contrary, is much more widespread in countries where it is not legalized, or partially legalized, as people perceive it as an alternative financial instrument capable of solving issues that national currencies cannot cope with. And in general, there are not many people left who are not at all aware of what Bitcoin is. Another thing is that not everyone knows how to use it. But this also depends more on the desire than on the conditions in which bitcoin is legalized.

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Bitcoin have widely spread to level that everyone is interested in bitcoin and when you listen to news and television broadcasters you see that they help to market bitcoin because of forex trading and buying and selling of bitcoin, if you establish a business now and your requirements of payment is with bitcoin, you see that most of people will like to make payment with bitcoin and when you pay them with bitcoin it's for their saves and same time for investment, but when you make payments with fiat currency it will be easily for them to spend it, so such is life.

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Well that's kinda interesting... I tried promoting Bitcoin myself, especially with the people around me like my friends and family. And I am open towards them that I'm into Bitcoin and crypto. And most of them really got interested about Bitcoin. But I don't really casually promote it on random people like adding Bitcoin as a payment option, just like what you did. I didn't think of it cause probably most of the time, people would just ignore Bitcoin as one of the option. Also, you could only ask others about Bitcoin as a payment option if they aren't working for a certain company unless their company or work, accepts Bitcoin.

But this kind of promotion still depends on the person. Some would think it's okay and some would be worried about their security so it'll still depends on the situation or to whom you'll be asking that kind of question.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

In my side too students are the ones that are mostly into bitcoin they just try to make money for themselves one way or another so i am not surprised that he demanded for bitcoin as payment. Alot of people know about bitcoin but you wouldn’t know if they don’t tell you about it. I also saw someone buying bitcoin on Binance one day i went out to watch football, a local competition held in my town i was so surprised because that person didn’t look like someone that would know anything about bitcoin or cryptocurrency i was so happy so i went to him to say hi and we exchanged numbers as well.

Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I would also like to spread the word about bitcoin, but I haven't had much luck lately; everytime I try to do so, people haven't shown much interest, so I've given up on it. Additionally, I haven't come across any businesses that accept bitcoin as payment, but when I do, I'll definitely patronise them.

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Sure, it's not a bad idea to go around asking people if they want to accept bitcoin when paying for things. Who knows, they might be interested and out of curiosity, they might even accept it. But, this is only going to happen if the amount isn't too big. Maybe for $10 or $20. I doubt someone who doesn't know much about bitcoin would be willing to accept $100 in bitcoin and take the risk of losing profit. And you might want to be cautious. Don't go around screaming you have bitcoin. Some might think you are rich and the next thing you will see when you wake up is that you are tied under a basement.
By the way, what made you think that a plumber wouldn't know what bitcoin is?

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I have never done this, maybe because my community value is not people who have the opportunity to accept Bitcoin as payment for the work or services they have done, so far what I have done with my Bitcoin is to use it for limited online transactions to buy some just thing, and unfortunately the website stop to accept Bitcoin at the moment and it looks like websites that accept Bitcoin feel there is a loss they receive because the price of Bitcoin is too volatile so they find it difficult to maintain Bitcoin as payment unless it immediately exchanges it for Fiat automatically. I really wish I could use Bitcoin for more direct transactions without having to convert it to fiat, but sadly Bitcoin adoption in my area isn't growing well enough.

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No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin. As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes. I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options. From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I live in country (Pakistan) where crypto is ban and people hide there involvement in crpyto to avoid legal actions against them. The government here is getting more and aggressive towards bitcoin. The countries where crypto is not banned, you can ask anyone whether he accept Bitcoin or not. But still paying to plumber or any other merchant in Bitcoin is not ideal because of time it takes to settle the transactions. LN may be a better option to choose if you have to pay in Bitcoin.

Are Pakistan and Bangladesh close to each other? Because I also have a friend from Bangladesh and his country is very strict with bitcoin related matters. And his bitcoin holdings are not as favorable as many others.

I come from a country where bitcoin is not banned and people also regularly share information about bitcoin on their social networks. But I don't like doing that because I prefer privacy and if in OP's case, I wouldn't ask that plumber either. He's in the service industry, he should make public what payment methods he accepts, I have no reason to ask them about that. Second, I don't want to deny that using fiat or banking is more convenient in this case. One more thing, as @lionheart78 said, sharing bitcoins with strangers is not a nice thing.

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This can only possible in countries where Bitcoins are legal. Else if you ask for giving in Bitcoins in countries where Bitcoins are not legalised, then most of the time people won’t be aware of what Bitcoins are. It’s great to see that OP you are promoting the coins by these steps. But according to me you shouldn’t give away these valuable coins, as Bitcoins are very rare and a time will come when the price will just be sky rocketing and there will be scarcity of the coins. So save and accumulate as many Bitcoins as you can.

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This is the true meaning of "You will never know until you ask".

Many people know about Bitcoin in my country but they don't want to accept it as a means of payment, Those who are into online jobs and those who have some Bitcoin still don't want to accept it as a means of payment because they need the cash more than the Bitcoin, trust me I have tried it before and I saw so many different reactions to accepting Bitcoin.

I am a fashion designer who prefers accepting Bitcoin from very limited numbers of people and I did this because I want to hold Bitcoin for the long term, mind you, I always need cash too, and most times I end up exchanging some Bitcoin back to cash to fund my business.

It's pretty hard to interact with Bitcoin transactions among your people, they are not making it easier at all since the majority of them don't want it.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on August 25, 2023, 06:35:25 PM

Very few have the positive mind whereas the majority doesn't have any positive thoughts and they simply term bitcoin as scam and a manipulated one. They never understand better about bitcoin, it takes lots and lots of time. Just on requesting the people nothing gonna change. OP should continue to ask the same question with different people on various professions and if we see more than 30% ready to accept bitcoin payments then we're good with the spread on bitcoin.

It is not only seeing bitcoin as a scam or a manipulated coin, there is another side of the story. Immediately people understand that you are into bitcoin, they will see you as one of the below;

A fraudster
A wealthy person
An enlightened person

It is only a few number of the society that will see you as an enlightened person. The majority will either see you as a scammer or someone who is extremely rich and they will look for a way to harm or steal from you. This is why many people prefer to remain private with their bitcoin.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on August 25, 2023, 05:09:39 PM

Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin. As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes. I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options. From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I will do the same thing as you, I will never mention bitcoin to strangers I don't know. That's like bragging and will take away my privacy while I'm trying to hide it. Even if that plumber mentioned bitcoin to me, I would shake my head and ignore it. I'm not afraid of being stolen or robbed, but it's really not a good idea to share my privacy with strangers.
I'm not against sharing bitcoins with everyone, but it also depends on the case and the person we share it with, if it's a relative, it really doesn't matter.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on August 25, 2023, 05:09:39 PM

No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin. As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes. I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options. From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I live in country (Pakistan) where crypto is ban and people hide there involvement in crpyto to avoid legal actions against them. The government here is getting more and aggressive towards bitcoin. The countries where crypto is not banned, you can ask anyone whether he accept Bitcoin or not. But still paying to plumber or any other merchant in Bitcoin is not ideal because of time it takes to settle the transactions. LN may be a better option to choose if you have to pay in Bitcoin.

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This would probably depend on where you're from, in my country, there's not a lot of interest in cryptocurrency or bitcoin so even if you advertise that your business accepts bitcoin, it's not getting that much attention, most of the population is pretty old-fashioned when it comes to mode of payments in my country so I don't know if it's worth to ask maybe in a more developed cities in my country, I might be able to find one, take my testimony with a grain of salt though, it's my experience and your experience might be different.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 10:38:35 AM

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah.. Sad

Now I want to know what happened to the people that you've mentioned, seems to me like you've got the last laugh out of them but I'm not satisfied with that, I want to know what's happened to them. Totally with you about being lowkey about owning bitcoin, nothing good comes out of bragging your bitcoin and those that would probably see your bitcoin will only be interested until the conversation is over.

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the majority of us are sleepwalking through life, unaware of the undercurrents of change. When you offered him Bitcoin, a door to financial evolution swung open. It’s no surprise he's a student; the youth often lead these revolutions.

Do you know how many workers would adopt Bitcoin if we just ASKED? People fear what they don’t understand. But this plumber? He understands. Hes part of a new paradigm. For a currency revolution to take place, its up to US to initiate the conversation.

Bitcoin isnt just digital gold; its a reflection of our collective consciousness shifting towards decentralized systems. Start asking, start promoting, and maybe, just maybe, we can set the sails towards a future less dependent on outdated monetary systems

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?

I don't think such a question should be asked in the first place. It's not that I don't want to promote Bitcoin but let the adoption take place without doing such. Unless these people open up their interest in having Bitcoin as payment first, I should welcome it and might consider doing that.

Anyhow, in the particular case you shared with us, the workers instead are the ones who need to open up that they accept bitcoin, not the other way around which is the one who hired them. Not just bitcoin but before offering a service, especially a home service, they should always present their accepted payment methods.

If they really want to be paid in bitcoin, why they don't mention it in their ads or posts? As per your story, he said that people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment. That doesn't make sense if he really wants to be paid in Bitcoin. Does it mean they will just wait before someone offers them to accept Bitcoin payment instead?

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Quote from: Forever101 on August 25, 2023, 07:37:18 PM

In my opinion, I think the promotion of a thing come with bigger task. People this days, find it difficult to engage in long term investment, as they need money for their immediate needs. Secondly, many person do not have the strength to withstand the deep moment in bitcoins. The best way to go about promotion is to introduce them to it, let them do their own research. Give them attention when they need help and put them true.

And what you get? nothing.

In a positive way, your friend will understand if investment is important and he might able to change his financial status become better. You will get a good friend and has a same interest with Bitcoin.

In a negative way, you will wasting your time, you friend will keep asking you about Bitcoin, they mocking you if Bitcoin is scam and worthless, your friend might become a criminal in order to steal your coins.

You're risking your life and get nothing.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

This is really nice, some people we think have no idea about bitcoin really know’s about it, but most of them don’t just talk about it. If you go to a store and you made your payment with bitcoin, it’s not really a bad idea, but if someone come to your house to fix something for you and you exposed it to the person that you are having bitcoin, don’t you think the person might end up coming back or sending people to you to steal the remaining bitcoin from you, and they might even end up getting you injured? We all should be careful about telling people about our bitcoin holdings, nobody can be trusted.

Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?

No, I haven’t done that before, and I think it’s not really necessary for now to avoid unnecessary stress. When you ask some people if you can pay them with bitcoin, some of them might end up thinking you even want to scam them, and since the central bank of my country is against bitcoin, your account might end up being reported if the wrong person knows that you are into bitcoin.

I somehow agree with you. Right now, it is better to be on the low about it. If an individual is the one to bring it up as a term of payment, especially for well-known establishments around the area, like stores, gas stations, and boutiques, then sure. However, if they are just one individual who you are not familiar with and is pretty sketchy then just keep it as a secret. We are still in a situation where it is difficult to know who we can trust regarding Bitcoin.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Thats a great idea. I have never done that in IRL to be honest I never thought there could be anyone IRL who could accept Bitcoins. because bitcoin is not really is being used here just like you said you that. but I had asked anyone who I worked with online for bitcoin payments. some accepted bitcoins and most of them refused.
I think we should do that more often and ask IRL vendors and workers if they accept bitcoin. maybe that's how we can find bitcoin users in our area/city.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

When your workers work for a minimum wage it doesn't matter whether they collect they money in FIAT or BTC. They'll still have to spend most of the money to pay their bills and there will be nothing left to save up. Actually in these situations FIAT is even better because we still can't pay all the bills via BTC and that means these workers will have to go a crypto exchange, convert their crypto to FIAT first, withdraw and then pay the bills. It will create so many extra steps...

If the workers are getting paid well enough then it is a completely different scenario. These people are probably making investments in various assets and if you pay them in btc, they will surely keep some of it.

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In my opinion, I think the promotion of a thing come with bigger task. People this days, find it difficult to engage in long term investment, as they need money for their immediate needs. Secondly, many person do not have the strength to withstand the deep moment in bitcoins. The best way to go about promotion is to introduce them to it, let them do their own research. Give them attention when they need help and put them true.

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