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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

This is really nice, some people we think have no idea about bitcoin really know’s about it, but most of them don’t just talk about it. If you go to a store and you made your payment with bitcoin, it’s not really a bad idea, but if someone come to your house to fix something for you and you exposed it to the person that you are having bitcoin, don’t you think the person might end up coming back or sending people to you to steal the remaining bitcoin from you, and they might even end up getting you injured? We all should be careful about telling people about our bitcoin holdings, nobody can be trusted.

Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?

No, I haven’t done that before, and I think it’s not really necessary for now to avoid unnecessary stress. When you ask some people if you can pay them with bitcoin, some of them might end up thinking you even want to scam them, and since the central bank of my country is against bitcoin, your account might end up being reported if the wrong person knows that you are into bitcoin.

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Well, I guess it wasnt that bad to ask if they want Bitcoin I mean if someone is really in into Bitcoin they could easily ask for it but not everyone owns Bitcoin and i guess if your the one paying you could easily ask something lile that. I mean i wouldnt do it because of the hassle and fees, i dont really store Bitcoin on centralized platforms because its kinda risky for sure I just store mine on Electrum wallet accessing needs a laptop or pc and for convinient I wouldnt ask someone for Bitcoin Payment.

Maybe if the Bitcoin adaptation continue to grow it is probably going to be possible, since I can already see cryptocurrency being adapted on Banks platform allowing you to buy and sell cryptocurrency, but right now i just dont see Bitcoin as something that you could use especially on payment transactions jist because of the volatile market price.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

What do you mean by "people don't ask"? If you offer a service you should be the one giving the payment option in advance, especially if we're talking about jobs like plumbers, electricians, etc, that work in somebody else's place, so you don't have like a desk where the customer can see that you accept this and that. He should have been the one to ask you how you wanted to pay, not the other way around.

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Very few have the positive mind whereas the majority doesn't have any positive thoughts and they simply term bitcoin as scam and a manipulated one. They never understand better about bitcoin, it takes lots and lots of time. Just on requesting the people nothing gonna change. OP should continue to ask the same question with different people on various professions and if we see more than 30% ready to accept bitcoin payments then we're good with the spread on bitcoin.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on August 25, 2023, 01:01:52 PM

I don't think it's a good idea. You can still make the purchase with cash, why messing up with bitcoin? You're putting yourself in an unnecessarily dangerous position. At this point, anyone who's known to own bitcoin is quickly thought as rich. It's just the way it is.

But, even if you weren't becoming target, what's the point of that anyway? If you want to pay a plumber, pay him with cash. Easy, free-of-charge, fully private.

You made a lot of sense sir. Sometimes we are responsible for some of the calamities that befall us. There are good reasons why some persons are very discreet with their crypto dealings and one of the reasons is because they don't want to attract unnecessary attention to themselves. If he had used Bitcoin away from home it would have been better but inviting a total stranger to his home and offering to pay him with Bitcoin, is not a smart thing to do. With many persons having the wrong impression that Bitcoin enthusiasts are well to do, the plumber might even gang up and come rob him.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

People who are living in countries where bitcoin is accepted as legal are free to ask. People who are in countries where bitcoin is banned dare not ask such questions.
Besides, people who have discovered the treasure in bitcoin do not want to be publicly identified as bitcoiners.
At this stage of life, many people have known about bitcoin, and the massive adoption is gradually u folding. Let's watch and see how everything will play out.

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I try my best to talk about bitcoin to people I see to be more curious about technology and innovation. Most people I have come in contact with are learned enough to assimilate blockchain technology and those already into it and they pretend and after i have finished conversing with them then they would own up to have knowledge about bitcoin but are just on a low key so as not to be known for security reasons.

Actually, it is nice if we do ask workmen their payment option or possibly we give them option to choose there and then they would open up to accepting their payment medium. From this we can be able to tell people about bitcoin to those who are not familiar with bitcoin as they would be curious to asking questions about bitcoin to knowing about it then. With this strategy bitcoin sensitization would go along way to the society through the skilled labour categories of people.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 01:29:07 PM

Quote from: _typer_ on August 25, 2023, 12:45:12 PM

And since we both agree that we should do this only with people we trust, I guess that we can also agree that this exquisite list cannot contain any random plumber we hire Wink

Totally agree

And thanks for "The Random Plumber" - may it become a meme Wink

(sorry for OT)

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin. As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes. I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options. From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

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Quote from: lousie9 on August 25, 2023, 05:02:29 PM

Actually i agree, I don't think there is a problem in giving Bitcoin a choice as one of the payment options that we offer to service workers like that.
But I don't think we can apply this and we do it anywhere because if it's in a place that still considers Bitcoin to be illegal then it's too risky for us and the people we give it to.
Apart from that, we actually have to be careful about offering Bitcoin to just anyone because we are afraid that they will have malicious intentions towards us and will threaten ourselves after they find out we are Bitcoin adopters.
Then this cannot be done by everyone because we know for ourselves that some people seem to prefer to collect and hold their Bitcoins compared to using them as a transaction tool, right?.

of course, you won't ask such question if you know bitcoin and other crypto are illegal in your area. however, if all is ok, if you have your own business, you can post it outside your shop that you are accepting btc. so people will know that you are accepting this currency and some of them will be curious about it. who knows, someone will ask you to teach them how to transact with btc? so are you ready for someone to ask you how to deal with crypto?

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Actually i agree, I don't think there is a problem in giving Bitcoin a choice as one of the payment options that we offer to service workers like that.
But I don't think we can apply this and we do it anywhere because if it's in a place that still considers Bitcoin to be illegal then it's too risky for us and the people we give it to.
Apart from that, we actually have to be careful about offering Bitcoin to just anyone because we are afraid that they will have malicious intentions towards us and will threaten ourselves after they find out we are Bitcoin adopters.
Then this cannot be done by everyone because we know for ourselves that some people seem to prefer to collect and hold their Bitcoins compared to using them as a transaction tool, right?.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 10:38:35 AM

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah.. Sad

I've had the exact same experience quite a few times and have now resorted to avoiding the conversation. A few days ago, I had another one tell me that Bitcoin stabilized and that's how it'll remain from now on. I tried explaining, but to no avail. I didn't bother any further.

While I like the idea and concept from the plumber's point of view, he's getting paid somewhere that he doesn't have direct access to; he can't spend it as easily as he can with a $20 bill; thus, my best guess is that he's using it as a saving-investing measure. On the other hand, I wouldn't pay with Bitcoin myself, as I feel that I'm spending a valuable asset along with any possible fees for something unnecessary. Moreover, as BlackHatCoiner mentioned, I'd prefer others not to know that I have Bitcoin, especially someone unknown as a plumber.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

Bitcoin is for everyone in the world. Athough it sometimes makes us surprises, but nothng can limit who are in Bitcoin relation. Btw, itis very glad to see many morepeople are using Bitcin for any transaction. But yeah, this may be asked for first, because I amnot sure that in all areas, people are opened with their involvement in Bitcoin.So, this can be one of the ways to ask itfirst r to have such kind of discussion about it to star.But, for me myself,it is quite difficult to start because Bitcoin is sometimes still connsidered as negative thing in my areas. and thie fact that Bitcoin is illegal if used as paymenet currency, this is why I am not starting any yet to askpeople about using Bitcoin for transaction

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

It is good to make use of Bitcoin as payment in real life but honestly using BTC as payment now doesn't look good from my own book based on the current price of the market and the chance of what accumulating BTC now will lead in the next few months.

Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I have never promoted BTC that way but I have and prefer to engage with people in conversation. Besides, I have stopped using BTC as payment ever since the huge tx fee and I wonder how much you pay for a tx fee just by selling the plumber his payment through BTC.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Yes, I do make bitcoin awareness known to my close friends, but I don't ever promote bitcoin by asking anyone if I should pay them in bitcoin because I am not ready to spend the bitcoin I am holding for now. I would rather continue to accumulate them because I have plans for them in the near future, so I am holding my bitcoin as my investment.

And one thing again: the reason I don't ask if someone who comes to work for me will aspect Bitcoin or not is for security purposes. Who knows who may come to work for you and have back-to-back intentions toward you because they think you are worth something in your wallet? I have read in the news that people attack others because they just think it's worth some money. So I don't want everyone to know if I am using Bitcoin or not for now. Even my close friends, with whom I do discuss Bitcoin, don't know much about my wallet, but I do bring some points up so they can understand better.

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Cool story… I used to ask people and give them the talk when they inquired about it. Most normal people think you’re trying to scam them or rope them into a Ponzi scheme. I understand it. You really need to jump down the rabbit hole on your own. You can’t force people to want to care about Bitcoin. A higher percentage of people than you probably think don’t want to care or concern themselves with the state of the dollar or the government.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on August 25, 2023, 01:12:41 PM

For payments, yes. Unless it isn't regularizes, then it be great to use. More persons are getting used to their regions need for decentralized finance, as banks no longer have much e-managencies.
I believe more students are getting exposed to the use of cryptocurrency to solve major financial problems because of decentralized technology and computer introduction and those who happens to have skills have resorted to earn via crypto purchaseor investment with payments from jobs inorder.

With regulators coming in, more businesses or private owned businesses would accept payments via crypto currency.

When you need to use the bitcoin as the mode of payment,it’s most essential one to ask the receiver to know about the address.The bank doesn’t like to use the bitcoin for their transactions,only in some countries the government itself guided their central government to launch the new cryptocurrency for them.But it takes huge time for the implementation after the creation of government owned cryptocurrency.Because it’s very hard to reach the downtrend of the society illiterate to learn of using the cryptocurrency from the paper money.

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Quote from: letteredhub on August 25, 2023, 02:46:26 PM

Asking people can be a positive strategy too as we can never know by face who's using/accepting bitcoin as payment for their products and services, if op had never asked he wouldn't have known so at times we should not just assume that people in our environment ain't using or don't have idea about bitcoin, some might do but just decide to keep it private for personal reasons.

Nobody's perfect so there's no harm asking anyone , and in the onset of asking and the person says s/he has no idea about what you're asking it just another opportunity to educate someone about bitcoin. Who knows, they might pick interest based on how you deliver the lecture.

Even with the Bitcoin restrictions, people are still using Bitcoin in isolation and you will need to ask before they will tell you that they are Bitcoin investors or optimist. Asking people if they use Bitcoin may be an improper question but there is a way we can do it that will not look derogatory. We can always share our thoughts about Bitcoin to people to see if they will be interested, from there we can know those who care about Bitcoin and the people that don't give a shit about it especially in a region where Bitcoin is fully our partially ban.

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It's relative. Some countries are well aware of how crypto and bitcoin works. In the Philippines you do that and people will give you the funny looks. It's not that bad either that much I can say but at the same time I don't want to subject people into so much trouble especially after fixing my sink just to get them into bitcoin. Although if the welcome the idea why not. I agree with asking people if they want to get paid with bitcoin but this could drive some bitcoin fanatics into thinking they can just shove the bitcoin narrative to people's faces which is going to be a delicate slope to take. So still ask people if they want to get paid with bitcoin, but the first sign of rejection should be taken as it is and not be pushed too far already.

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From the topic and the first and second paragraphs of the thread I was thinking that it is a kind of off topic but as i finished reading the whole thread then I came to understand the content. As for me, I normally ask people if I am buying a mega electronics and I have not meant anyone that accepting bitcoin. Some of them even told me that they have not heard or they don't know what is bitcoin.

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