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Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 10:38:35 AM

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah.. Sad

That's me, which really is a sad thing.

Long ago, in 2016, I was full of hope for humanity and tried to tell people about bitcoin but I saw that smirk on their faces telling me something like "this guy got hooked by those scammers, he's going to lose money" so I stopped doing it. it reached a point where I wouldn't talk about bitcoin at all unless somebody mentions it. Even then I don't immediately contradict them or reveal that I'm a bitcoiner but instead I try to learn as much as I can about their attitude, asking if they own some, if they heard about this or that, like blackrock investing, microstrategy and all the rest.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

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He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

my story is a little different from yours, i run a vehicle wash business, i was once on a whim making payment options with bitcoin and some altcoins and i was quite surprised when i got a conversation with one of my detergent providers, he said he accepts payment by bitcoin if i want, which makes me wonder here that he is not young, he is middle age and when i asked him where he knew about bitcoin, he said his nephew is a bitcoin trader ^{(i don't know if his nephew is a member of this forum too lol)} he said fatherly earn money on the side, he often asks about potential future businesses and his nephew recommends bitcoin and other crypto assets, here i am quite happy because it turns out that there are many people who are unexposed are bitcoin lovers, bitcoin has become part of many people's lives.

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Asking people can be a positive strategy too as we can never know by face who's using/accepting bitcoin as payment for their products and services, if op had never asked he wouldn't have known so at times we should not just assume that people in our environment ain't using or don't have idea about bitcoin, some might do but just decide to keep it private for personal reasons.

Nobody's perfect so there's no harm asking anyone , and in the onset of asking and the person says s/he has no idea about what you're asking it just another opportunity to educate someone about bitcoin. Who knows, they might pick interest based on how you deliver the lecture.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 10:38:35 AM

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah.. Sad

I experimented the same, the looks of disdain you can get from people thinking you were an idiot by investing in an asset which was clearly a scam to them is not something you forget, things have changed of course and many of those same people have at some point asked me about it and I simply play dumb or I do not even answer them, and the reason is obvious, now that many people know bitcoin is valuable it is a huge mistake to let others know you have it, as they may imagine you have a fortune and then then try to steal it from you.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Promoting Bitcoin is not supported around me as crypto is banned in my country so I avoid to talk about it publicly but wherever I found someone talking bad about BTC on the basis of there wrong beliefs and wrong knowledge I do not hesitate to correct them.

And people near to me, tend to ask me because I share content related to crypto sometimes memes on my Status so those who asked by themselves. I teach them the basics.

People in my country are so attached to traditional finance like the banking system. They accepted the fate and the loss too. I am talking about the loss which they face due to the devaluing of there savings due to inflation. But even though they know BTC could save them from that loss but many afraid due to its volatility and many have religious beliefs about it. But still, I always tries to spread the knowledge I have in crypto for free.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

You will never know until you ask. In my location, many people are aware of Bitcoin but they are more concerned about using it as a hedge against inflation and not as a means of payment. Some will also prefer using other forms of payment because their service or work charge might be insignificant to use Bitcoin payment systems due to transaction fees.

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While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Youths are more aware of Bitcoin than other age. They are more technologically inclined and easily adapt to innovation. You can easily get information about Bitcoin in most higher institutions of learning.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused onIfif I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I have not asked any worker about paying in Bitcoin and none have ever asked. But I might consider it if I want to make a high payment. The decision to live a private life has also limited me from exposing that I am a Bitcoiner.

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Quote from: _typer_ on August 25, 2023, 12:45:12 PM

Why not spread the idea of Bitcoin among people you trust without a doubt. I know he woudn't tear down my house trying to find my seed(s) (and he sure would have to).

Well, as I said, I've done that many years ago. And not once. And clearly with more people than the two examples. (If any of them have invested.. they've never told me.)
But now.. there's nobody left I can trust and I didn't already tried to spread the idea.

So your point is correct, but I no longer can much on that.

And since we both agree that we should do this only with people we trust, I guess that we can also agree that this exquisite list cannot contain any random plumber we hire Wink

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For payments, yes. Unless it isn't regularizes, then it be great to use. More persons are getting used to their regions need for decentralized finance, as banks no longer have much e-managencies.
I believe more students are getting exposed to the use of cryptocurrency to solve major financial problems because of decentralized technology and computer introduction and those who happens to have skills have resorted to earn via crypto purchaseor investment with payments from jobs inorder.

With regulators coming in, more businesses or private owned businesses would accept payments via crypto currency.

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I don't think it's a good idea. You can still make the purchase with cash, why messing up with bitcoin? You're putting yourself in an unnecessarily dangerous position. At this point, anyone who's known to own bitcoin is quickly thought as rich. It's just the way it is.

But, even if you weren't becoming target, what's the point of that anyway? If you want to pay a plumber, pay him with cash. Easy, free-of-charge, fully private.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 10:38:35 AM

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly.

Same situation here. Everyone instantly thinks of the cryptocurrency scam-sector, and dismisses anything I have to say about bitcoin.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 25, 2023, 12:36:03 PM

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It's good if they accept Bitcoin but in my country, many people prefer cash or e-cash since it will be used to buy goods in the market where the vendors didn't even know about cryptocurrency and prefer cash as payment method.

In some developing countries whose governments provide strict regulations on crypto will certainly not allow the use of Bitcoin as a medium of exchange, which this greatly affects.

For those who do not understand, will choose cash for sure, but for those who understand crypto, Bitcoin will be an option because it has an investment value that will increase later, despite the high volatility.

As people who understand crypto, we only explain easily what crypto and bitcoin are, if they are not interested then just stop there, nothing needs to be forced.

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I think I heard this story not so long ago. I can't remember where it was posted.
Everywhere today is adopting cashless payment and the CBDC in my country has been adopted widely as well. I saw a store that once accepted BTC but they seem to have stopped after the fiat base wallet was introduced.

I wouldn't expect someone who provides services will prefer to be paid in BTC but I'm sure those service provider who knows crypto are proud to put a sticker with the words Accept Bitcoin.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 10:38:35 AM

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah.. Sad

Let's have a look from the other end. I'm a retired programmer and about a year ago I was invited by a long-year customer who invested over 2 million in more vacation-houses. We talked about finances in general and then got deeper into assets we are invested in. Really trusting this man I asked him if he is acquainted with Bitcoin and he was very interested even though I talked more about the vision than the possibility to lambo. Soon after we met again and he asked for help as to where and how to buy. Being told of course not to buy for more than he could afford to lose overnight without any pain he bought. And he bought again in November 22, hitting it nice (while I was waiting for the prive to go down a little more...).

What I'm trying to say is that we're in the same boat now what threats are concerned and we trust each other. Now I work for him again once in a while and he pays me with Bitcoin. We are both happy.

Why not spread the idea of Bitcoin among people you trust without a doubt. I know he woudn't tear down my house trying to find my seed(s) (and he sure would have to).

But I agree - never brag, never even talk about it with anyone you don't completely trust.

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I believe this will only work with quite young people, like the one from your story, OP. Mostly people say that they heard about bitcoin, of course, but for their work they want "real money". If someone agrees to take payment in bitcoin, he has to be familiar with how this works, he needs to have a wallet and the address and be confident with the usage of them. In my country, people who work in the field of services such as plumbing or electricity have no idea how to use such things. And they do not set themselves the goal of learning. That's why I never offered Bitcoin as a way to pay for their work.

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Well, I don't force someone to be in crypto or not but I would ask if they know about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency before I ask that person if he would like to get paid in Bitcoin, cash or e-cash (which is most used in my country). It's good if they accept Bitcoin but in my country, many people prefer cash or e-cash since it will be used to buy goods in the market where the vendors didn't even know about cryptocurrency and prefer cash as payment method.

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I'm actually a student as well back then when I started studying Bitcoin online. I've heard it from my friend who started earlier than me but the rest I learned it by myself. So to answer your question, I tried to promote Bitcoin by just trying to do what my friend did to me back then to my other friends. Cause when pandemic hits, NFT games are hyped back in 2020 so they actually doing exchanges thru Binance where they have seen different coins.

Of course since they are engaging in the crypto world I didn't hesitate to introduced Bitcoin to them and explained the benefits, the risk, the volatility and almost all the information that I could think of about Bitcoin. At first they are really interested knowing the fact that I've earned in Bitcoin. In the end, they just simply said "they have no luck in Bitcoin" and kept grinding on NFT games where it's coin doesn't reach 1 dollar value today. Any kind of promoting is good but it would really depends on the people if they will acknowledged Bitcoin.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

99.99% of my experience on asking a certain service if they accept Bitcoin is they totally don’t have any idea about Bitcoin. It depends on country and location for people to become involved in Bitcoin maybe you are from country which Bitcoin is hype even for hard laborers.

Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

I’m not easily convinced with this because the payment is for his service. That is his salary and not a spare money which means that he will need to spend it for his necessities unless his work is just a part time job and he has other source of income.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.
He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

I doubt if there are people who live in today's society who don't know about Bitcoin. Maybe some might not have had the privilege to own one but they must have heard of it in one way or another and as rightly presented in the thread it good to ask people if they will prefer Bitcoin has payment, that way we too are promoting the Bitcoin p2p transaction and increasing the demand.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I have been too sceptical about offering people the option of been paid in Bitcoin but with a thread like this I will try to see how many persons will prefer to be paid in Bitcoin.

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Quote from: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 10:11:50 AM

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

I feel that as a merchant, if you accept payment in BTC, you should make it known to your customer base that you accept BTC, you wouldn't wait for them to ask you before you tell them the payment methods that you accept. If i walk into a store that accepts BTC, i would want to see their notice that "BTC is accepted here", that is how to attract customers that will pay you in our decentralized currency.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I haven't been promoting BTC in this way, i don't talk about BTC except when i am at home with my family or when i'm with my friends, BTC is very popular, but too many people are not interested so no need to bother them, and if as a merchant you accept BTC, the logical thing to do is to let your customers know.

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If it's a true story then that's amazing, and what do you do, offering payment in bitcoins is an alternative to promoting the use of bitcoins in transactions. That's great.

But, I'm not as lucky as you. I live in a country where bitcoin is not legal for payment. In my country, bitcoin can only be owned as an asset and can only be used for crypto trading, so I can't do bitcoin promotions like you.

From my experience introducing bitcoin to my friends, most of them weren't interested, some were interested but unfortunately they thought the price of bitcoin was too expensive so they didn't dare to buy it, even though I said buying bitcoin could be done in small quantities.

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Well, I think your joke got heavy on you as you lost your hand on your BTC. BTC has nothing to do with our labour force, specifically the plumber force. Because the one who came into your house was a plumber and a student too, he must have had good problem-solving and learning skills, which must have encouraged him to adopt new technology. Not to mention the fact that learning such new technology can become a headache for some.

And the plumbers here in my area or in my district are not students because plumbing is not some work that could generate decent income here, so everyone has to do a full-time job; they cannot do this work part-time. And the ones who are full-time plumbers do not want to learn new things; instead, they are just fed up with their lives so much that they do not even want to hear anything aside from their job and personal lives.

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