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Topic: I was scammed by kashish948 - page 4. (Read 3857 times)

legendary
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April 16, 2015, 03:53:42 AM
#10
I can see how the mess was created, and its hard to judge since both of your arguments are correct in a way.
Since there is obviously misinterpretation so say the least, i advise you both accept that its only fair to reverse both transactions, and split the fees of doing so.

@op, you are experienced enough to understand that you need to point out fiat value strictly when trading, as in US$ and CAD$
@kashish948, you obviously said that you are dealing with market rates, which is not the case in this transactions,im NOT saying you scammed, you obv did not, but you didnt point out CAD$ either.

I am only making observation here, but it seams to me that both sides here made a mistake in currency identification, by not pointing out US$ or CAD$, and it is my opinion
that you should reverse both transactions and split the fees 50:50.

Whatever you choose to do next is your call, but since both of you are respected members of the forum, i believe you will solve this matter as such.

cheers
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April 16, 2015, 02:51:03 AM
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legendary
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April 16, 2015, 01:55:04 AM
#8
Ok I am home. Let me explain a few things here:

1) The first thing that will prove that I DID NOT scam anybody is this. I had 3.85 BTC in my wallet and then I sent 900 CAD, which scammer would do that? Wouldn't I take the entire 3.85 BTC and scam if I really wanted to? lol its common sense!

2) My thread clearly stated I am buying BTC with 900 CAD when "killyou72" contacted me about it.

3) Yes, I did say I deal at market prices and then he offered me this deal - 3.85 BTC for 900$.

    a) Now since my thread very clearly said 900 CAD, and he did not mention USD, this was obviously in CAD.
    b) If this was 900 USD, it was not at market price as pointed out by "EcuaMobi" above and accepted by OP. Also, OP accepts " I was trying to get above market rate" - Why? Trying to cheat me?
    c) So yes I said I deal at market price but then OP offered me a better deal and I agreed.

4) After I sent the Paypal, OP was also satisfied and happy with the deal as proven by his comments below:
 
    a) "My BTC for his paypal. Sent money in a time efficient manner WILL UPDATE IN 181 DAYS" - OPs trust feedback for me which is now removed.
    b) "All and all, took 30 minutes from complete start to finish. *Quickest ive ever bought/sold coins before* - OPs post on my rep thread which is edited now.
    c) "RECEIVED PAYPAL TOOK 28 or 38 minutes after I sent BTC. ((scarred the crap out of me honestly) WILL UPDATE IN 181 days" - OPs post on my thread which is edited now.

5) Clearly OP was more than happy with 900 CAD and is now having double thoughts on the transaction he did.

Because of all the above points, I do not feel I have done anything wrong here. Maybe OP was not in his senses when he was dealing but lol I did not tell him to smoke when dealing Tongue

Also, I have done much much bigger deals than 150 CAD for which this scam accusation is and nobody has ever had any issues. Most people send first to me without even an escrow and get the deal they accepted. That's what OP got and is now not happy with it. Sorry but I cant help with it in this situation.
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April 15, 2015, 04:18:16 PM
#7
181 days later..

you should of used some sort of escrow? if there is such a difference, I think its not hard to go ahead and use preev and go from there on what needs to payback what he originally requested, if not yeah you got scammed on the difference.


My 181 day posts are all in reference to that, after that, I can confirm that the paypal gift wasnt disputed.
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April 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
#6
181 days later..

you should of used some sort of escrow? if there is such a difference, I think its not hard to go ahead and use preev and go from there on what needs to payback what he originally requested, if not yeah you got scammed on the difference.
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April 15, 2015, 03:14:56 PM
#5
It looks like he confirmed twice that he was wanting to trade at the market rate. The OP also said that he wanted to trade "1.1" which I would take to mean 1 to 1 or another way of saying the market price.

It seems that kanshish948 was likely sent more Bitcoin then he was able to pay for. This was probably due to a communication mistake on the OP's end. Assuming the above PM's can be validated (I really can't check the video right now) then kashish948 should refund the difference between what he was sent verses how much PayPal was actually sent to the OP.
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April 15, 2015, 03:04:15 PM
#4
Actually your PM's don't prove a scam happened. They show that you agreed to trade "3.85 btc for $900 paypal" without specifying USD or CAD. Because it happened yesterday the rate was about US$215-US$218 so about CA$267? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So I'd expect 3.85 BTC to trade for about US$833 or CA$1027 if you said "market price". $900 doesn't really fit any. Do you have any more PM's showing that you agreed USD and not CAD?
Also, do you have the messages where he refuses to refund?

Why did you add this feedback in his profile? Update: I see you removed it just now.

It would seem you were happy with the deal. What changed?

Because you reset your password recently, could you sign a message with a BTC address posted several months ago to prove you're still in control of your own account?
I see you reset the password before making this deal so never mind this.

There are tons of people that can confirm who I am. I can sign the address that I sent the coins from tho.

I did not calify where it was USD or CAD.  You are right, it would have been 833$ But I was trying to get above market rate because it was paypal. But he still shorted me around $150 because of the mis understanding.

He did say he was buying for market rate, and he obviously did not pay me anywhere near market rate.


Selling you my BTC for your paypal

market rate.... bitcoinaverage.com
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April 15, 2015, 02:55:07 PM
#3
I'm not at home right now, please give me time to post my proofs before anybody jumps at a conclusion. It will be a few hours. Thanks!
legendary
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April 15, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
#2
Actually your PM's don't prove a scam happened. They show that you agreed to trade "3.85 btc for $900 paypal" without specifying USD or CAD. Because it happened yesterday the rate was about US$215-US$218 so about CA$267? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So I'd expect 3.85 BTC to trade for about US$833 or CA$1027 if you said "market price". $900 doesn't really fit any. Do you have any more PM's showing that you agreed USD and not CAD?
Also, do you have the messages where he refuses to refund?

Why did you add this feedback in his profile? Update: I see you removed it just now.

It would seem you were happy with the deal. What changed?

Because you reset your password recently, could you sign a message with a BTC address posted several months ago to prove you're still in control of your own account?
(I see you reset the password before making this deal so never mind this last sentence)
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April 15, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
#1
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kashish948-152514

What rate are you buying at?

what is this for?

So you want to sell?

back, Yeah so I got hopefully 3.85 BTC to sell

Memphis @ Golden State , Moneyline , Golden State

    3.5 BTC @ 1.1 Confirmed

Should end soon.

What are your payment methods?

I do PayPal at market pricea


Well Ill sell you 3.85 btc for $900 paypal

Please send BTC to
1NBFMLaUanXmT8a3bUnVvTLh1E5TDEGFAb

And give your paypal

SENT

Paypal is kdxri*****@aol.com


I really hope you do not scam me here, and dont forget the trust if this all goes thur!!!

Sent. Thanks a lot!

omg bro. I was freaking out I thought you were scamming me, I was literally crying at my computer screen wondering how I was going to pay my rent


SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME BY LOGGING OUT AFTER I SENT BTC HOLY SHIT DUDE




Lol sorry about the time....I had no internet at the time...

lol. During that 38 minutes I was going through all of your account activity to see if it was compromised lol. Dont forget the trust, I gotta go smoke to save myself from this heart attack you gave me

Yup will give you trust in an hour....please do the same for me and post on my thread.

Thanks Smiley


LONG STORY SHORT.

Kash said was buying at market rates, so I said 3.85 for 900$, He sent 900$ CAD. Which is way below market rates. He said he was buying at bitcoin average.com price.  clearly he is not. He will not refund me coin or give me money

 http://youtu.be/SP1IZOMvVXI

^video of my inbox.outbox.

*Currently waiting on a global mod to confirm the PMs
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