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legendary
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January 28, 2022, 07:09:00 AM
#90
Looks like another spoiled egotistical maniac on a narcissistic rampage because apparently Biden didn't mention "Tesla" in some speech, so wittle Elon got his wittle feewings hurt Cheesy. I wouldn't doubt the same thing happened with Bitcoin.. someone probably called him a tool or didn't do whatever he wanted, he got butthurt, spit his narcissistic fire attacking with whatever he could, then walked away.

Of course, Biden is a tool too, but I think most people already knew that, as most presidents are.. we don't need a spoiled princess like Elon to tell us. The world needs less billionaires.

Kiss love ya Elon. /sarcasm



Will Elon Musk’s narcissism be his downfall?
donator
Activity: 4760
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January 27, 2022, 09:16:04 PM
#89
After reading Elon’s tweet storm about Joe Biden’s idiocy and brainwashed citizens demanding removal of their freedoms out of fear, I can say that right now I feel like I would never buy a car from any company other than Tesla ever again. If you haven’t read Elon’s tweets yet today, do it immediately. The richest man in the world who many give the title of genius has the opinion that our president is an idiot sock puppet. He’s right about it also. Thank god for Elon Musk. He’s got fuck you money and is saying all the right things. He’s the billionaire we deserve and I’m here to cheer him on.
legendary
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January 25, 2022, 05:13:33 AM
#88
Tesla is an environmentally friendly car that is intended for people who are in an urban environment, namely to reduce air pollution.  For some people, the Tesla is a dream car, but with a relatively expensive price, the Tesla cannot be enjoyed by people who are in the lower middle class.  therefore this car is still said to have minimal demand.

Tesla Model 3 cost about $45k. With modern banking possibilities, I think a lot of people can afford that. That is what usually BMW 3 series, or Audi 4 cost. But the technology in Model 3 is in no way comparable to a car that cost $40-50k. I think people with lower middle class usually dont buy cars, they mostly use public transport.

A car itself is environment friendly, but the energy production to charge it pollutes environment worse than diesel cars.

I would consider Tesla car to be my next car, only if there will be more charging stations in my city, and full charge wont take hours. So far, I am ok with my 3 liter diesel, even if I dont use its full potential in city.
full member
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January 25, 2022, 04:29:25 AM
#87
Blaming crypto's downturn on Elon Musk is ignoring the fact that the market has become oversaturated, no new exciting or important tech developement has happened (it could and will, but it hasn't right now), and we are right on time of a crypto winter as predicted much earlier than Musk ever got into crypto. Nothing in a global economy is down to just one person or one event, it's a number of factors and this is no exeption.

If you have an issue with the price of Tesla, it's design or that it's an electric car, I might not agree, but I understand and it's good to have oppinions, but not buying a Tesla just because Elon caused the downfall of BTC, that just dosen't make any realistic sense.
sr. member
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January 25, 2022, 02:55:51 AM
#86
Tesla is an environmentally friendly car that is intended for people who are in an urban environment, namely to reduce air pollution.  For some people, the Tesla is a dream car, but with a relatively expensive price, the Tesla cannot be enjoyed by people who are in the lower middle class.  therefore this car is still said to have minimal demand.

You must be in a funny part of the world if you increase the dead weight lugging around is environment friendly.
There is nothing environment friendly to have mountains of toxic batteries in years to come.
Nothing environment friendly to convert and convert and back again...
And no it is not environment friendly if you produce electic with coal, nuclear, fields of glass....

You know what is environment friendly, hemp oil or alcohol from fruit trees. Let me tell you hemp is a "green" plant
https://youtu.be/3F5DcjwfMfY
legendary
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January 17, 2022, 09:34:03 AM
#85
I will never buy a Tesla car

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.
Can't subscribe to this really, i have said at some point said not to do some things but as a result of age, new experience or some other factors found myself doing those things i said i wouldn't do. Convictions can change and we all should realise that, some may say never to buy a tesla car but a drive in one, the experience may change your conviction. Some of such convictions that are temporary should be best kept to self to avoid being called a hypocrite if they change tomorrow.
donator
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January 14, 2022, 05:22:19 PM
#84
If you could go ahead and tell everyone else not to buy Teslas either I would very much appreciate it.  I ordered one 2 years ago and will still be waiting years to get it.  No model they make is available for immediate pickup.  You can actually purchase a Tesla and sell it when you get it for a huge profit.  How many other car companies can say their cars gain value when they roll off the showroom floor?  Answer: None.  Teslas are so obviously miles ahead of the competition at this point in the game, it will be impossible for them not to disappoint unless Elon is flying people to Mars in a decade where people are driving underground in tunnels via Cybertrucks...
full member
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January 14, 2022, 10:27:34 AM
#83
Tesla is actually intended for the upper middle class, which incidentally is an environmentally friendly car...

Tesla is NOT an environmentally friendly car, at least not in the US. Maybe in some other countries that get their electricity by more environmentally friendly means, but definitely not in a country that gets 80% of its electricity from coal.
sr. member
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January 12, 2022, 12:30:16 PM
#82
I'm planning to buy a new car this summer. Not very sure of what I'm going to get, but I have no doubt about what I'm not going to get. I'm not going to get a Tesla. Never. Wouldn't even accept a test drive.

Hey, BTC's falling hard this week, and the guy who started the fall is Elon Musk, Tesla's manager. There's just no way I'm going to spend my money with the guy who's destroying my savings.

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Regardless of the damage Elon Musk was done to bitcoin, I believe that these cars contribute to reduce global warming, and besides they are of good quality, I see no reason not to acquire one (apart from the economic one).

Maybe you on medication or some other hallucinating agent, how exactly is increasing the energy needs going from A to B good for global warming? As for quality my friends X100 been for fixes several times and on the last ride with him he complaind that height ajustment no longer works proper, keeps sagging.
newbie
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January 12, 2022, 11:17:21 AM
#81
I'm planning to buy a new car this summer. Not very sure of what I'm going to get, but I have no doubt about what I'm not going to get. I'm not going to get a Tesla. Never. Wouldn't even accept a test drive.

Hey, BTC's falling hard this week, and the guy who started the fall is Elon Musk, Tesla's manager. There's just no way I'm going to spend my money with the guy who's destroying my savings.

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Regardless of the damage Elon Musk was done to bitcoin, I believe that these cars contribute to reduce global warming, and besides they are of good quality, I see no reason not to acquire one (apart from the economic one).
full member
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January 12, 2022, 10:12:25 AM
#80
I agree with your words. But Tesla car is a good electric car at an affordable price.

I never argued that. If you look at my first post on this thread (#54) you'll see I stated I don't like electric cars and I don't have the money. Never said a single word about quality or cost.

To make it more clear: about 80% of the electricity generated in the US is fossil fuel derived, so "in theory", you're saving 20% carbon emissions, at the very best. In reality, once you factor in conversion losses, that number quickly becomes negligible.
On the other hand (affordability wise), the moment you buy an electric car you're assuming the cost of replacement batteries, and they're not cheap. I have personally seen (an acquaintance bought it) an Acura Integra that had gone 279000 miles on nothing but consumables (oil, filters, spark plugs, brakes), just because its previous owner was very rigorous on its maintenance. Try that with an electric car.

And, finally, there are the technology's "other" shortcomings. Lack of charging points, time to charge, danger, and so on. I'm sure most of them (if not all) will be addressed in due time, but they're not there yet. As I said it before, there are other technologies that could be applied today, to existing vehicles, with minimal or no modifications, and have been proven to work from the very beginning.
newbie
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January 11, 2022, 06:12:25 AM
#79

No, sir. Batteries and capacitors are different tech.
Also, for any given quantity of energy, a capacitor will always be much bigger, and heavier, than a battery.

Nobody is talking tech, and if you read my post, you will see I said "batteries are big capacitors".
So, yeah, they're different tech, the operating principle is the same, both are ways to store energy in form of an electric field.

I agree with your words. But Tesla car is a good electric car at an affordable price.
full member
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Merit: 190
January 10, 2022, 11:55:50 AM
#78

No, sir. Batteries and capacitors are different tech.
Also, for any given quantity of energy, a capacitor will always be much bigger, and heavier, than a battery.

Nobody is talking tech, and if you read my post, you will see I said "batteries are big capacitors".
So, yeah, they're different tech, the operating principle is the same, both are ways to store energy in form of an electric field.
newbie
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January 10, 2022, 08:31:30 AM
#77
If you like the Tesla car then go and get it or just buy anything you wanted. Tesla is actually a good electric car at affordable price.
sr. member
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January 10, 2022, 06:01:47 AM
#76
Anyone in electronic for 43 years knows real progress, development and investments has been with capacitors, with market exploding to over half a million types. Batteries on the other hand is dying tech and has not managed to grow beyond some hundred types.
Capacitors is heart and soul of electronics, batteries is in the realms of consumer gadgetry. Batteries is kind of a embarrassment for real electronic guys.
Don't care what you think, i know how very well how much time wasted with detours and hanging on a cable when trying to get something done.

Yeah. Anyone in electronics for A MONTH knows batteries and capacitors are the same thing. A battery is just a very big capacitor.
Also, anyone in electronics knows "progress" is not measured by the number of new technologies found, but by the quality of the technologies.
BTW, capacitors are not the heart of electronics: semiconductors are.

No, sir. Batteries and capacitors are different tech.
Also, for any given quantity of energy, a capacitor will always be much bigger, and heavier, than a battery.
Actually Biden and BernyJB the same.

Capacitor are electical charged, Battery store chemical energy.
Capacitor can have crazy fast charge-discharge cycle, doing it with a Battery gives a nice fire.
Capacitor can be AC (run/start AC motor) or DC, no such thing as a AC Battery.
Capacitor long life span (million plus cycles), Battery much shorter lifespan (less than 1k)
Capacitor energy stored is less then 10 Wh/kg with Batteries is over 100
Capacitor power per kg can be almost 10000 watt, Batterie maxes out at about 3k
Not sure (havn't been 43 years in electronics) but i think there is no such thing as a current regulator for capacitor, its either on or not.
Capacitor is active development, Batterie is more or less dead tech, cheaper better systems of energy storage is available
legendary
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January 09, 2022, 07:29:39 PM
#75
Anyone in electronic for 43 years knows real progress, development and investments has been with capacitors, with market exploding to over half a million types. Batteries on the other hand is dying tech and has not managed to grow beyond some hundred types.
Capacitors is heart and soul of electronics, batteries is in the realms of consumer gadgetry. Batteries is kind of a embarrassment for real electronic guys.
Don't care what you think, i know how very well how much time wasted with detours and hanging on a cable when trying to get something done.

Yeah. Anyone in electronics for A MONTH knows batteries and capacitors are the same thing. A battery is just a very big capacitor.
Also, anyone in electronics knows "progress" is not measured by the number of new technologies found, but by the quality of the technologies.
BTW, capacitors are not the heart of electronics: semiconductors are.

No, sir. Batteries and capacitors are different tech.
Also, for any given quantity of energy, a capacitor will always be much bigger, and heavier, than a battery.
jr. member
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January 07, 2022, 01:11:33 AM
#74
Anyone stupid enough to think there are better and/or less expensive vehicles than a Tesla or thinks other vehicles can do what theirs can, you are vastly uninformed, ignorant, and probably the type of person who is extremely jealous of others...

• Fully loaded Tesla Cybertruck: $80,000
• Fully loaded Rivian R1T: $98,000
• Fully loaded Ford F-150 Lightning: $90,500
• Fully loaded Hummer EV: $112,600

Guess which car is the fastest, has the longest range, is bulletproof, has the largest charging network, can drive itself, is the cheapest and has the best interface?  Ya, not even a comparison.  You'd have to be an absolute moron to think there are cheaper/better vehicles out there.  Not only is that a blatant lie based on jealously and ignorance, no other car can even do what Tesla's Cybertruck can, so in reality there isn't even competition for it.  Nothing compares.  Add in bulletproofing for those other vehicles, additional batteries to match Tesla's range, additional motors to match it's speed, the cost of building out a better charging network, and these cars would easily be 2 or 3 times the price of the Cybertruck...

You guys can buy your vehicles based on your emotions and spread lies about others if you want.  God help you if your car runs into mine though...  Your emotions and fiberglass body might tell a different story about what is "better" when it meets a several thousand pound block of cold rolled steel.

EDIT: When you get into the non-fully loaded options, Tesla shines even more by absolutely destroying the competition on price as well as the other metrics listed.  I was being generous using the fully loaded models...  Imagine what kind of a snowflake pansy you'd have to be to not want a bulletproof truck or think of it as a bad thing.  LOL.  As for the cars, obviously they're so far ahead of what else is available that it isn't even worth making the comparison to other electrics and if you're still buying combustion engine powered vehicles then I've got an old tube television to sell you that you're gonna love.

My GF is buying the Ford Lightning. Wish she'd switch to the Tesla.
legendary
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January 01, 2022, 04:32:34 AM
#73
I'm not going to get a Tesla. Never.

Regardless of your feelings towards Elon Musk, he's definitely got closer than anyone else to putting a lambo on the moon... which is what we're all here for, right?
The closest I've got is riding a bike off a ramp. But maybe one day if I make enough BTC I can realise my dream of driving a golf buggy out of a flying aircraft (with a parachute and other safety equipment, of course, I'm not an idiot).

sr. member
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December 30, 2021, 01:16:47 PM
#72

More bad news, that is the problem with a proven failed and failed again product like EV
https://redrightvideos.com/bad-news-for-biden-and-electric-vehicle-market/
full member
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December 30, 2021, 12:54:23 PM
#71
............ A battery is just a very big capacitor.
......
BTW, capacitors are not the heart of electronics: semiconductors are.
Yeh, sure they are try charging - discharge a batterie multitude times per second and then tell me what happend to the "bigger" capacitor. lol
Alright one of or major part.

Yeah, I'm not gonna waste my time (nor help you derail this thread any further) by giving you an electronics class. If you want to learn, go to school.
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