I will never buy a Tesla car - page 3.

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Quote from: ampu on June 15, 2021, 11:25:58 AM

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

There are many other good cars then Tesla on which you can go to far places and they offer much more value.

So why would we need to choose Tesla Huh

If we don't like Elon Musk market manipulation, we should show our protest by not buying his products.

You can choose any brand you wanted to buy but we can't deny that Tesla is one of the best of its kind and its literally cheaper than other company cars in the EV segment. He is not going to get affected if we don't buy cars from him and actually he is even selling his ideas more than his car and he made profits from ideas than his actual selling of cars.

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What's your reasons not buy a car from Tesla company, then you dont like their products or the company itself you can equally go other companies that will give you what you like, but me i will buy, i cant because the attitude of elon musk towards cryptos not to buy what's nice to my test.

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Quote from: ampu on June 15, 2021, 11:25:58 AM

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

There are many other good cars then Tesla on which you can go to far places and they offer much more value.

So why would we need to choose Tesla Huh

If we don't like Elon Musk market manipulation, we should show our protest by not buying his products.

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Quote from: ampu on June 16, 2021, 11:47:05 AM

Wait 30-60 minutes to charge the battery, but the internal combustion engine refuels no more than 4 minutes. If you go to remote places, you can bring a fuel tank. Wouldn't that be more convenient?
Tesla electric cars are trying to reach everywhere, but they can hardly reach remote places.

Maybe, maybe not. Already companies such as goalzero.com have portable power packs the size of car batteries and solar panels that allow everything from USB devices to AC mains and 6V plugs, so it's not too unreasonable to imagine that a car could carry a spare battery and transfer power to the cars' own batteries (or even recharge the batteries via solar panels).

You obviously haven't been to Australia, North (Central and Southern) America, Eastern Europe (the list goes on) where there are wide open spaces and many hours of driving between one dot on the map and the next. Carrying fuel onboard is essential to travel, so carrying spare batteries and solar panels isn't as far fetched as you might imagine.

Hybrid cars already recharge the batteries on the run when the vehicle is coasting / down hill etc - surely Tesla Cars do something similar to extend the drive times between actual recharges?

(and who doesn't want to get out of a car on a long run for a coffee and a stretch of the legs?)

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 16, 2021, 11:02:26 PM

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And I believe with a super charger, you can get almost 200 miles worth of charge in 15 minutes. And it will keep going down with each new model.

You might be,
but Model S and X cars have Panasonic manufactured batteries.
Panasonic specifies a maximum charging current of 2 amperes per cell. Tesla allows charging current to be up to 4 amperes.
As with Panasonic warranty already already null and void. Increasing the amperes even more, (faster charge) shortens Battery life more so.
Not much changing with the new in house produced (gigafactory) "2170" batteries other than physical size. (increasing Ø by 3mm and height by 5

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Quote from: ampu on June 15, 2021, 11:25:58 AM

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

Tesla has thought of that already and has announced ^{(sorry I've lost the link)} that they will start their own recharging stations attached to "Dinner" style restaurants / service stations - essentially Tesla gets you to buy the car, then, while you are "captive" for ~ 30 - 60 minutes, they get a trickle of money from you - might not be much day-to-day, but if they know they can rake in ^{(ball park number out of my head)} $100 per month from 50,000 people, then that starts equating to some big bucks.

Wait 30-60 minutes to charge the battery, but the internal combustion engine refuels no more than 4 minutes. If you go to remote places, you can bring a fuel tank. Wouldn't that be more convenient?
Tesla electric cars are trying to reach everywhere, but they can hardly reach remote places.

I don't think Tesla is targeting people that plan on taking their vehicle to areas that are hundreds of miles away from gas stations or electricity. I can't even think of an area that you would need to fill up an extra gas tank and throw it in your car because your gas tank doesn't hold enough.

And I believe with a super charger, you can get almost 200 miles worth of charge in 15 minutes. And it will keep going down with each new model.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on June 15, 2021, 04:00:24 PM

Quote from: ampu on June 15, 2021, 11:25:58 AM

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

Tesla has thought of that already and has announced ^{(sorry I've lost the link)} that they will start their own recharging stations attached to "Dinner" style restaurants / service stations - essentially Tesla gets you to buy the car, then, while you are "captive" for ~ 30 - 60 minutes, they get a trickle of money from you - might not be much day-to-day, but if they know they can rake in ^{(ball park number out of my head)} $100 per month from 50,000 people, then that starts equating to some big bucks.

Wait 30-60 minutes to charge the battery, but the internal combustion engine refuels no more than 4 minutes. If you go to remote places, you can bring a fuel tank. Wouldn't that be more convenient?
Tesla electric cars are trying to reach everywhere, but they can hardly reach remote places.

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Quote from: countryfree on May 19, 2021, 11:55:10 AM

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The reason I won't buy a Tesla is because in my country the price is very expensive...

Besides that, the maintenance costs are also quite complicated, while I don't have enough time to take care of it. I'd rather stick with my old car and keep hold my Bitcoins than buy a Tesla I'll never need.

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Quote from: ampu on June 15, 2021, 11:25:58 AM

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

Tesla has thought of that already and has announced ^{(sorry I've lost the link)} that they will start their own recharging stations attached to "Dinner" style restaurants / service stations - essentially Tesla gets you to buy the car, then, while you are "captive" for ~ 30 - 60 minutes, they get a trickle of money from you - might not be much day-to-day, but if they know they can rake in ^{(ball park number out of my head)} $100 per month from 50,000 people, then that starts equating to some big bucks.

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Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

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Quote from: BADecker on May 19, 2021, 06:42:16 PM

I will never buy a Tesla car

I'll buy one if I can get it cheap to sell it for a big profit.

Cool

Not even for a profit.
A friend of mine has a Model x d100 or what ever it is and i went for long and short distance drives in the thing and no not for me.

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Quote from: countryfree on June 14, 2021, 06:07:49 PM

I have the feeling that Mr Musk wants to rule BTC.
He gives conditions. I will accept BTC if... Sorry Sir, but if you support BTC, you put no condition to its use.

I guess its customers should do the same, and avoid buying an electric car if there's no green electricity available in their area.

What Musk says holds truth. It's a good thing to push miners for greener electric consumption. And if they do, it's better for all and mostly for the sustainability of bitcoin network.

And I'm planning to buy a tesla car within the next few years. When my petrol vehicle gets old and Tesla launches a cheap but high range hatchback.

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I have the feeling that Mr Musk wants to rule BTC.
He gives conditions. I will accept BTC if... Sorry Sir, but if you support BTC, you put no condition to its use.

I guess its customers should do the same, and avoid buying an electric car if there's no green electricity available in their area.

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Quote from: badger27 on May 25, 2021, 02:26:41 PM

I wuld never buy Tesla car never, cause they are not good. They have poor quality, you can find a lot of videos of this car failure in youtube, for example video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ1tofzX6Bk

How may people die each year in this shitty car cause of company issues with car? And now, when he does this with a crypt, I would never buy a single product from of Musk

His electro shis car make more polutions than any ICE car. If your think electric energy for BTC is not clean, and than of course is not clean also for his shity car. What wuld happen with battery for car after batterys life? probably nothing, and that battery creates pollution when it is produced, when you consume it, and when it dies, the battery will produce pollution

And one picture for Musk

Quote from: https://www.edfenergy.com/for-home/energywise/electric-cars-and-environment#:~:text=Research%20has%20shown%20that%20electric,to%20fuel%20them%20is%20considered.

Research has shown that electric cars are better for the environment. They emit less greenhouse gases and air pollutants over their life than a petrol or diesel car. This is even after the production of the vehicle and the generation of the electricity required to fuel them is considered.

Hmmm is this one of the other's hate speech against musk, cause I'm thinking it is.

Plus tesla is not the only one offering electrically motored vehicles Undecided

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on May 20, 2021, 07:58:11 PM

I'm stupid enough, I guess.

You will receive no argument from me.

People can say Teslas are powered by dirty energy. I get that. People can say Elon is a troll. I get that. People can say they don't like that Tesla has a monopoly on electric cars and want to buy elsewhere, or maybe they even have brand loyalty and want to purchase an electric Ford. Who knows? All I do know, is that you currently can not find a better electric car for retail purchase by a major manufacturer that is better than a Tesla. I can use the word "better" broadly here because Tesla is so far ahead in every way that there is no need to go into any more detail.

Well, for the record, you said:

Quote from: OgNasty on May 20, 2021, 05:12:51 PM

Anyone stupid enough to think there are better and/or less expensive vehicles than a Tesla or thinks other vehicles can do what theirs can, you are vastly uninformed, ignorant, and probably the type of person who is extremely jealous of others...

And it only takes a minute of research to find cars that are less expensive or better.

And then you went on about how awesome the Tesla Cyber Truck is...and once again, only a minute of research shows it's only just started production and won't be available till the end of this year, or later - meaning you were basically just repeating a Tesla pitch for their truck.

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Quote from: countryfree on May 19, 2021, 11:55:10 AM

I'm planning to buy a new car this summer. Not very sure of what I'm going to get, but I have no doubt about what I'm not going to get. I'm not going to get a Tesla. Never. Wouldn't even accept a test drive.

Hey, BTC's falling hard this week, and the guy who started the fall is Elon Musk, Tesla's manager. There's just no way I'm going to spend my money with the guy who's destroying my savings.

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Haha there is one thing that I like about people it's that they take a lot of things personally which could ultimately hurt them at the end. You know instead of never buying Tesla Car a better option for taking Revenge might be to buy Tesla Car for cash and then sell it for BTC. Elon Musk is a confused creature. He himself once tweeted for his own company that Tesla shares look pretty high priced. First of all, I don't really think it would matter to him even if we all as a community swore never to buy Tesla because we are too small to give a significant hit to their revenues anyway. But yes a better thing you can do is to do this same thing on Twitter by tagging him or probably we can trend this. This might catch the attention of the Tesla PR Team.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on May 26, 2021, 07:58:11 PM

Quote from: countryfree on May 26, 2021, 11:51:52 AM

It's surprising that people talk about the cars, but that's not my point. It doesn't matter that the cars are good or bad. My point is that Elon Musk has a big mouth, and that he uses it to play havoc with BTC. Some day he says he supports BTC, that he's a big fan, and merely a few weeks later, he says BTC is dangerous to the planet... As an old BTC investor, I can't accept this. Maybe Musk is rich enough not to care about BTC's price, but I do.

I'm just waiting for the OP or anyone else to outline what exactly mechanical or otherwise is actually wrong with Telsla's Electric cars? (funny that everyone's talk of the owner of the company is probably off-topic, but I digress)

Are the brakes faulty? Not enough miles to the kilowatt? The seats aren't comfy? The radio has too much squelch? Come on @countryfree, tell us what's wrong with the car??

OP was pretty clear that the reason he won't be buying a Tesla has nothing to do with Teslas product, it's the actions of the founder and ceo he has a problem with.

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Right now TESLA is no longer accepting Bitcoin to buy their electric cars. Ordering new products like Cyber Truck will cost you Bitcoin upfront and I see on this forum a member has placed a deposit of more than 5 BTC and by March the amount for the car was just over 1.5 BTC.

Currently, electric cars are a global trend, but not every country supports electric charging stations, so gasoline-powered cars are always a good priority because gas stations are everywhere.

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 26, 2021, 08:47:34 PM

... didn't read Timelord2067's post but felt the need to Troll anyway ...

Next you'll be saying:

"Hopefully that person (EM) will also suspend making their all electric cars until such time as the metals are mined out of the ground with "clean energy", similarly, transported to smelters, and then manufacturing plants via electric vehicles powered from "green energy" and the cars themselves automatically refuse to be recharged by electrons sourced from "dirty energy" sources."

(rolls eyes)

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on May 26, 2021, 07:58:11 PM

I'm just waiting for the OP or anyone else to outline what exactly mechanical or otherwise is actually wrong with Telsla's Electric cars? (funny that everyone's talk of the owner of the company is probably off-topic, but I digress)

How is that off-topic if the OP literally says "no way I'm going to spend my money with the guy who's destroying my savings"?

Quote from: Timelord2067 on May 26, 2021, 07:58:11 PM

Are the brakes faulty? Not enough miles to the kilowatt? The seats aren't comfy? The radio has too much squelch? Come on @countryfree, tell us what's wrong with the car??

The quality is average at best. I've had trim pieces rattle during a Model 3 test drive. Panel gaps are similar to a Mexico-made Nissan Versa. Doesn't look good on a 50-grand car. And one probably needs to be a millennial to buy a car without knobs for volume and climate control because I don't really understand the appeal of tapping on a tablet or trying to guess what magic words you need to say.

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