iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - SECOND CHANCE 76 UNITS AVAILABLE - $6750 - page 2.

Brewins

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Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 06:47:34 PM

Quote from: Brewins on May 02, 2017, 06:39:12 PM

Even me important is the fact that you "trust" the private buyers that you have only known for 2 days with large sums of the communities cash- while no risk to you.

Since your response will likely be you have dealt with them previously, save us some time and post evidence.

Also you said "safer" in your last post- meaning handing over cash to a guy that is giving it to 2 "private guys" is safer than..... Yours sounds VERY safe.

I'll take door number 2

you are an idiot sir.

I am paying the manufacturers direct

You are paying the manufacturer and the miners are being shipped to the "Private People"

Who's the idiot Huh

bittawm

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Quote from: VoskCoin on May 02, 2017, 06:55:27 PM

This group buy is stressing me out lol, I am changing my group buy order back to the Pandaminers, sorry for the trouble in changing.

no worries mate

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This group buy is stressing me out lol, I am changing my group buy order back to the Pandaminers, sorry for the trouble in changing.

bittawm

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Quote from: Brewins on May 02, 2017, 06:39:12 PM

Even me important is the fact that you "trust" the private buyers that you have only known for 2 days with large sums of the communities cash- while no risk to you.

Since your response will likely be you have dealt with them previously, save us some time and post evidence.

Also you said "safer" in your last post- meaning handing over cash to a guy that is giving it to 2 "private guys" is safer than..... Yours sounds VERY safe.

I'll take door number 2

you are an idiot sir.

I am paying the manufacturers direct

Brewins

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Even me important is the fact that you "trust" the private buyers that you have only known for 2 days with large sums of the communities cash- while no risk to you.

Since your response will likely be you have dealt with them previously, save us some time and post evidence.

Also you said "safer" in your last post- meaning handing over cash to a guy that is giving it to 2 "private guys" is safer than..... Yours sounds VERY safe.

I'll take door number 2

Brewins

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Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 06:18:41 PM

Our agreement will be safer than kilos and is guaranteed

kilo is late to the party

our deal has been planned for months

kilo is trying to mash potato something together out of spite.

Really? Why is this thread 2 days old?

bittawm

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Our agreement will be safer than kilos and is guaranteed

kilo is late to the party

our deal has been planned for months

kilo is trying to mash potato something together out of spite.

Eyedol-X

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Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 05:17:39 PM

Quote from: Eyedol-X on May 02, 2017, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 05:00:52 PM

Miners will not be shipped directly to customers as explained, all buyers can have it in writing that there machines will be shipped in timely fashion from the USA reseller.

What payment options are there and does this deal still expire tomorrow?

the deal does expire tomorrow (because contract will be signed done and dusted, I dont think kilo will end up getting any contracts signed in the end) and the payment options are BTC or DASH

Aside from the price difference biggest differences between these two GB's are it appears yours is moving forward even if the allocated amount is not pre-paid for and you're accepting BTC or DASH, the other currently only identifies as accepting wire transfer but has an extra ~72 hours until its expired and details could change.

For me I want the best bang for my buck and for either GB I have to make some tough decisions about how I want to spend my money or crypto. A 35% markup over cost is a significant premium especially when we don't know how much difficulty is going to jump or how many of these miners is going to be delivered during batch 1. Any way you slice it, there is a lot at risk aside from delivery of the miners.

bittawm

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Quote from: Eyedol-X on May 02, 2017, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 05:00:52 PM

Miners will not be shipped directly to customers as explained, all buyers can have it in writing that there machines will be shipped in timely fashion from the USA reseller.

What payment options are there and does this deal still expire tomorrow?

the deal does expire tomorrow (because contract will be signed done and dusted, I dont think kilo will end up getting any contracts signed in the end) and the payment options are BTC or DASH

Eyedol-X

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Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 05:00:52 PM

Miners will not be shipped directly to customers as explained, all buyers can have it in writing that there machines will be shipped in timely fashion from the USA reseller.

What payment options are there and does this deal still expire tomorrow?

bittawm

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Quote from: Brewins on May 02, 2017, 04:02:48 PM

Senor Buttawn is trying to get some free miners as well. Why can't you guys be honest? This has scam written all over it.

If Mindtrip and Fuckrogers had the money they would not be trying to hustle the community for 76 more units. The manufacturer has a contract that says $4998 per unit. IT DOES NOT SAY - $4998 and cheaper for 150-200 units.

Wake up - these guys are hustling you and Buttawn is a fucking scammer.

Can you provide proof that the miners are going to be shipped directly to the customers? My understanding is that they will NOT be shipping that way.

look these guys have secured this deal and if you are not interested then go to kilos thread (which will fail)

how dare you accuse me of being a scammer, that is low.

Miners will not be shipped directly to customers as explained, all buyers can have it in writing that there machines will be shipped in timely fashion from the USA reseller.

Longsnowsm

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You might want to check out Kilo's thread on a "Group Buy" for these. If he can get 50 units sold here on the forum that group buy will happen. And it is all going to be handled via escrow. This process sounds much clearer and much less risk.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ibelink-dm11g-group-buy-cancelled-1898421

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Senor Buttawn is trying to get some free miners as well. Why can't you guys be honest? This has scam written all over it.

If Mindtrip and Fuckrogers had the money they would not be trying to hustle the community for 76 more units. The manufacturer has a contract that says $4998 per unit. IT DOES NOT SAY - $4998 and cheaper for 150-200 units.

Wake up - these guys are hustling you and Buttawn is a fucking scammer.

Can you provide proof that the miners are going to be shipped directly to the customers? My understanding is that they will NOT be shipping that way.

mobilk0

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The site bitbaza requires an advance payment of 50%

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Quote from: mantor84 on May 02, 2017, 03:28:15 PM

I think that groupbuy is going to escalate.
It's getting more and more complicated and I guess in a short time nobody can follow up anymore.

Can anyone confirm that the avg. Hashrate is at 10800MH/s?
In all the pics/clips/videos I found very poor avg. Hashrates only.

At the screenshot from "chup" the iBelink DM11G miner had an avg. Hashrate of only approx. 800MH/s running already 3,5h.
At the first youtube video from the iBelink DM11G the miner doesnt even got above 90MH/s after running already 2h.
Did anyone see that this miner reached the desired Hashrate by running for a period of time? I can't get it.

And why do we have an additional Groupbuy for the iBelink DM11G from kilo17?
Does the manufacturer playing with us or is it that easy to order big amounts of miners?

Everything is so strange... and I thought a Groupbuy gives a bit security and a better risk/reward ratio.

Hope that can be clarified asap

I specifically asked them to point a miner at my address with one miner and received no reply from them

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Quote from: mantor84 on May 02, 2017, 03:28:15 PM

I think that groupbuy is going to escalate.
It's getting more and more complicated and I guess in a short time nobody can follow up anymore.

Can anyone confirm that the avg. Hashrate is at 10800MH/s?
In all the pics/clips/videos I found very poor avg. Hashrates only.

At the screenshot from "chup" the iBelink DM11G miner had an avg. Hashrate of only approx. 800MH/s running already 3,5h.
At the first youtube video from the iBelink DM11G the miner doesnt even got above 90MH/s after running already 2h.
Did anyone see that this miner reached the desired Hashrate by running for a period of time? I can't get it.

And why do we have an additional Groupbuy for the iBelink DM11G from kilo17?
Does the manufacturer playing with us or is it that easy to order big amounts of miners?

Everything is so strange... and I thought a Groupbuy gives a bit security and a better risk/reward ratio.

Hope that can be clarified asap

There are several groups that are buying miners from the first production batch. The terms are the same for all groups, and one of the requirements is 100 units minimum order quantity. That's it.

IOTUSA

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Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 12:01:11 AM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on May 01, 2017, 11:12:01 PM

Quote from: bittawm on May 01, 2017, 10:56:11 PM

the reseller has not paid yet. However they have been invited to view machine and sign contract,

while the order is unpaid it is still being secured by the manufacturer (you can confirm this, just ask Ibelink)

we will not be sending any BTC until we have a signed contract, as of now I have an invite letter from the company and will be sent live updates as our reseller goes to china to complete this deal.

What are the terms once the contract is signed? Payment in full? 50%? When is the contract expected to be signed? And what is the anticipated delivery date for these?

100% upfront to the manufacturer (I know everyone would prefer that)

The manufacturer does not require 100% upfront period. They require 50% upfront and 50% at time of delivery. The smart way to do it is to escrow 50% with a reputable escrow to protect buyers. These are the terms that all teams acquiring 100 units of batch 1 have received.

bittawm

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Btw all,

kilos deal will likely fail, whatever happens this is going through.

bittawm

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Quote from: Eyedol-X on May 02, 2017, 02:55:33 PM

Quote from: bittawm on May 02, 2017, 02:44:07 PM

1. Once the deal is signed they will be officially, publicly identified

2. yes we have Identity verification and other credentials, of which all of the buyers will have before sale is complete

Why the secrecy on the identity? Are they trying to avoid some sort of spotlight or direct targeting since this deal could potentially leave the reseller the beneficiary of 24 miners worth of profit? -- I'm not knocking it, just asking if you can shed some light on this subject.

Thank you for affirming that you personally can provide identity verification of the reseller.

For those reading and for general information I have the next set of questions:

If someone wants to make a purchase, what are the next steps for them?
When these miners ship in +3 months? How will they be contacted? By the manufacturer?
How is payment for shipping arranged and what payment options will there be?

If someone wants to make a purchase, what are the next steps for them?

contact me let me know purchase quantity, Pay me, I pay manufacturer

When these miners ship in +3 months? How will they be contacted? By the manufacturer?

these products will be shipped to our reseller after before july 31st, then they will send direct to buyers

How is payment for shipping arranged and what payment options will there be?

multiple shipping options from USA, freight cost gets either sent to me or the reseller

mantor84

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I think that groupbuy is going to escalate.
It's getting more and more complicated and I guess in a short time nobody can follow up anymore.

Can anyone confirm that the avg. Hashrate is at 10800MH/s?
In all the pics/clips/videos I found very poor avg. Hashrates only.

At the screenshot from "chup" the iBelink DM11G miner had an avg. Hashrate of only approx. 800MH/s running already 3,5h.
At the first youtube video from the iBelink DM11G the miner doesnt even got above 90MH/s after running already 2h.
Did anyone see that this miner reached the desired Hashrate by running for a period of time? I can't get it.

And why do we have an additional Groupbuy for the iBelink DM11G from kilo17?
Does the manufacturer playing with us or is it that easy to order big amounts of miners?

Everything is so strange... and I thought a Groupbuy gives a bit security and a better risk/reward ratio.

Hope that can be clarified asap

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