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Topic: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - SECOND CHANCE 76 UNITS AVAILABLE - $6750 - page 5. (Read 11075 times)

sr. member
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This should be simple to solve.
The PRIVATE INVERSTORS want to resell these to us so they can get free machines right, i think that is very clear by now.

Show us PROOF that you PAID your contract then i'm sure everyone will jump in and buy.

Now you hold 100 units with the manufactor and don't have funds to pay and wants the community to pay for you so you can get 24 free units is a RIPOFF
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One thing is to buy a product with YOUR money and resell it so you can make profit = LEGIT BUSINESS

another is trying to use everyone's else money because you don't have money and in the end get 24 free units = TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE!!!!!

sr. member
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YouTube.com/VoskCoin
I asked if they could provide me proof of miner so I can show this thread, this was the response received from Qing Zhu via skype

Thank you for your offer. We are busy with our customers at the moment and will close the preorder in a few days. I love to get back to you to address your guy's concern at some point.
hero member
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Agreed, but exactly who is the manufacturer? I cannot find any references to this miner anywhere else other than the Russian site, and im sure he's a re-seller (VAR) at best.
Goes back to my question about where is the OEM web site and contact info?
I don't want to deal with the VAR if I can avoid it.

I agree I couldn't find an ibelink website.. Bittawm said he was in contact with the manufacturer so maybe he will share contact info or at least shed light on this facet?

The info listed in the disclaimer info I have seen seems to indicate the web site for the manufacturer is http://www.dualminer.com/

I don't know for sure, but I saw someone else also linked to them for "contact us".
sr. member
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Agreed, but exactly who is the manufacturer? I cannot find any references to this miner anywhere else other than the Russian site, and im sure he's a re-seller (VAR) at best.
Goes back to my question about where is the OEM web site and contact info?
I don't want to deal with the VAR if I can avoid it.

I agree I couldn't find an ibelink website.. Bittawm said he was in contact with the manufacturer so maybe he will share contact info or at least shed light on this facet?
legendary
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Agreed, but exactly who is the manufacturer? I cannot find any references to this miner anywhere else other than the Russian site, and im sure he's a re-seller (VAR) at best.
Goes back to my question about where is the OEM web site and contact info?
I don't want to deal with the VAR if I can avoid it.
hero member
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Merit: 517
I find it odd that no one has pointed yet to the mfg website. All I have seen is a Russian language video.
Is there anything else to go on here?

Ive contacted them where they emailed  me specs and buying details where they said they only sold 100 units or more. Its real
https://dualminer.3dcartstores.com/crm.asp?action=contactus


When did you contact them and they replied that they are still selling them in units of 100?  I think we were lead to believe that they were all sold out already.  If they are in fact still selling them in blocks of 100 then this new price of $6750 perfectly lines up with what others are saying that someone is looking for others to fund their purchase.

Something just doesn't sound right.  If the manufacturer is still selling blocks of 100 then we should be talking to them directly and arranging this purchase.  The details are just too scarce and seem quite questionable. 

I would love to see specifics here.
legendary
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Merit: 1051
ICO? Not even once.
Let me get this straight;

 - 10800 Mhs X11 miner that only uses 728 watts;
 - at $6750 that comes down to about 23 days to hit ROI at $0.10 kWh as per coinwarz;
 - proof is 1(?) sketchy video;
 - paying to a private group.

After the second point I'm not sure why anyone with half a brain would even consider this. Why would anyone sell such a retardedly profitable miner to anyone instead of printing money themselves?
sr. member
Activity: 489
Merit: 253
I find it odd that no one has pointed yet to the mfg website. All I have seen is a Russian language video.
Is there anything else to go on here?

Ive contacted them where they emailed  me specs and buying details where they said they only sold 100 units or more. Its real
https://dualminer.3dcartstores.com/crm.asp?action=contactus
sr. member
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Merit: 487
YouTube.com/VoskCoin
I have contacted their apparent skype and am seeking further verification of their machine.
legendary
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I am from Russia, at the site http://bitbaza.com/shop/25/desc/ibelinkdm11g the price is $ 7500, but the minimum lot is 10 pieces (
Can you visit and see in person?
newbie
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Count me in for 1 if there is an escrow.
newbie
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I am from Russia, at the site http://bitbaza.com/shop/25/desc/ibelinkdm11g the price is $ 7500, but the minimum lot is 10 pieces (
sr. member
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I find it odd that no one has pointed yet to the mfg website. All I have seen is a Russian language video.
Is there anything else to go on here?

This new video (as of may 1st 2017) of the ibelink miner is partly english: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PJTFU4YRw
legendary
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I find it odd that no one has pointed yet to the mfg website. All I have seen is a Russian language video.
Is there anything else to go on here?
newbie
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I would take 1 piece, if there are any guarantees
sr. member
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member
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private sellers are well trusted forum members

the private sellers will be identified to buyers before sale



They are buckrodgers and Mindtrip.

I will contact iBelink about this thread right now.    DONE

Ok so can Buckrodgers or Mindtrip chime in and confirm this? That in itself seems like the best method of response right now for the community.

Kilo, I appreciate your diligence on getting these answers, I understand your intentions here are in an effort to protect everyone involved.


***Edited***

The community has been made aware.  If you are good with paying $6750 knowing that there is built in cost for others to get free miners, then no need continuing down the path of some massive expose' as you believe there is still value in that price.  

I, for one, will never look at a group buy the same again though.

This is an interesting perspective and if I understand correctly, here is how the math breaks down.

$5000 per miner x 100 miners = $500,000 + ? Shipping costs

$6750 per miner x 76 miners = $513,000

Scenario: So from here I see a potential scenario where someone arranges a private group buy for 100 units that they can't pay for. The facilitate this group buy by marking up the base cost of the miner to a higher dollar amount and only sell enough to cover the total cost of the purchase plus potential shipping costs for the 100 miners, in this scenario that is 76 miners. They then keep the remaining 24 miners for themselves.

I'm not saying that's what is happening here but it seems very questionable.

To be clear: I'm not pointing fingers or accusing anyone involved here. I just see what could be a potential questionable scenario.

If Buckrodgers and/or Mindtrip are indeed the private party facilitating this, can either of you please clarify?

I'm interested in one of these given some outstanding questions are answered; Thanks.

On top of all of this smokescreen we still don't know if these things are currently in manufacturing or if this is vaporware or anything.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 508

private sellers are well trusted forum members

the private sellers will be identified to buyers before sale



They are buckrodgers and Mindtrip.

I will contact iBelink about this thread right now.    DONE

Ok so can Buckrodgers or Mindtrip chime in and confirm this? That in itself seems like the best method of response right now for the community.

Kilo, I appreciate your diligence on getting these answers, I understand your intentions here are in an effort to protect everyone involved.


***Edited***

The community has been made aware.  If you are good with paying $6750 knowing that there is built in cost for others to get free miners, then no need continuing down the path of some massive expose' as you believe there is still value in that price.  

I, for one, will never look at a group buy the same again though.

This is an interesting perspective and if I understand correctly, here is how the math breaks down.

$5000 per miner x 100 miners = $500,000 + ? Shipping costs

$6750 per miner x 76 miners = $513,000

Scenario: So from here I see a potential scenario where someone arranges a private group buy for 100 units that they can't pay for. The facilitate this group buy by marking up the base cost of the miner to a higher dollar amount and only sell enough to cover the total cost of the purchase plus potential shipping costs for the 100 miners, in this scenario that is 76 miners. They then keep the remaining 24 miners for themselves.

I'm not saying that's what is happening here but it seems very questionable.

To be clear: I'm not pointing fingers or accusing anyone involved here. I just see what could be a potential questionable scenario.

If Buckrodgers and/or Mindtrip are indeed the private party facilitating this, can either of you please clarify?

I'm interested in one of these given some outstanding questions are answered; Thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 544
Merit: 250
I still remember back when there was a group buy of the Avalon 6 Bitcoin miner and kilo17 bought enough where the seller BlockC (USA distributer for Avalon 6) let us piggyback on his discounts for more orders for ourselves and the group buy handler (philipma1957) paid directly to BlockC. Went sooo smoothly.

What safety net is there if Bittawm send funds to reseller instead of directly to the manufactuer?
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
This whole thing sounds like a scam to me. I would not send anyone bitcoin without escrow on this deal. Even a "manufacturer". Be careful people.
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