ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 132.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on August 30, 2023, 02:14:16 AM

Pakistan can definitely win today because Pakistan is stronger than Nepal team. Babar Azam, Rizwan, Imam-ul-Haq, Faqar Zaman are the best players of Pakistan team but compared to them, Nepal team has no strong players. And I bet for Pakistan I definitely want Pakistan to win today. Pakistan team's bowling point is stronger than Nepal's so in any aspect Pakistan is ahead today. If both the teams can defend the wicket till the end, it will surely give the visitors a game full of competition.

Don't use terms such as "definitely" while dealing with the Pakistani team. They are perhaps the most inconsistent among the full member nations. If it was India or Sri Lanka, then I would have said that there is zero chance for a win by Nepal. But then we are dealing with Pakistan. 99% chance that they would win, but since Pakistan is the opponent, there is a 1% chance that Nepal would win. Don't forget the first match against Afghanistan, where they got bowled out for 201 (and that too against a second-string Afghan side).

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Quote from: elevates on August 29, 2023, 06:43:36 AM

Only few hours left for the first match of this tournament to start! How many of you are excited to watch the first match? I am as the first match would be played in Pakistan. Amids all the controversies the first match between Pakistan and Nepal would be an entertaining match for the Pakistani spectators. In any case I am expecting Pakistan to win. Don't know whether they mess up such an easy game, as history and unpredictability has been part of the Pakistani team.

Pakistan can definitely win today because Pakistan is stronger than Nepal team. Babar Azam, Rizwan, Imam-ul-Haq, Faqar Zaman are the best players of Pakistan team but compared to them, Nepal team has no strong players. And I bet for Pakistan I definitely want Pakistan to win today. Pakistan team's bowling point is stronger than Nepal's so in any aspect Pakistan is ahead today. If both the teams can defend the wicket till the end, it will surely give the visitors a game full of competition.

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Quote from: WatChe on August 29, 2023, 11:04:19 PM

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Nepal will face Pakistan in the first match of the Asia Cup today. Nepal has finally qualified to play in the main stage of the Asia Cup by competing well. I was really impressed with the attendance in the match where Nepal qualified for the main stage of the Asia Cup. The entire stadium was full of people and the under-construction buildings and plants around the stadium were full of people, that is, the people of Nepal gave Nepali cricket a different kind of love that day. We might expect similar support from Nepal in the first match against Pakistan as well. Whether in the stadium or in front of the TV, everyone will support their team well. It's not about winning against Pakistan, I think it's a big achievement for Nepal to qualify for the main stage of the Asia Cup and have India and Pakistan as opponents.

If you see performance of Nepal in recent months they are doing really good. The difference between Nepal and teams like UAE and Oman is that Nepal has domestic setup of cricket while Gulf teams are entirely composed of expats. Nepal performance is going up and once they make it to top ten ODI or test teams it will be possible for them to retain there position. It will take time but I am sure Nepal has capacity to be in top ten teams.

Besides qualifying for Nepal's Test matches, being among the top 10 in the ODI format and doing well enough in T20 cricket, they can do all this in a short period of time because their country and their people support their game of cricket a lot and because of the domestic league, every year they Gets some good quality players. If Nepal spends time and money on cricket then their time and money will not go in vain as Nepalese cricketers are talented enough. Sandeep Lamichhane is a talented cricketer who has experience playing in big tournaments like IPL. If Nepal can organize regular bilateral series then this team will move up in the ranking.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on August 29, 2023, 08:36:24 PM

Nepal will face Pakistan in the first match of the Asia Cup today. Nepal has finally qualified to play in the main stage of the Asia Cup by competing well. I was really impressed with the attendance in the match where Nepal qualified for the main stage of the Asia Cup. The entire stadium was full of people and the under-construction buildings and plants around the stadium were full of people, that is, the people of Nepal gave Nepali cricket a different kind of love that day. We might expect similar support from Nepal in the first match against Pakistan as well. Whether in the stadium or in front of the TV, everyone will support their team well. It's not about winning against Pakistan, I think it's a big achievement for Nepal to qualify for the main stage of the Asia Cup and have India and Pakistan as opponents.

If you see performance of Nepal in recent months they are doing really good. The difference between Nepal and teams like UAE and Oman is that Nepal has domestic setup of cricket while Gulf teams are entirely composed of expats. Nepal performance is going up and once they make it to top ten ODI or test teams it will be possible for them to retain there position. It will take time but I am sure Nepal has capacity to be in top ten teams.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on August 29, 2023, 08:36:24 PM

Nepal will face Pakistan in the first match of the Asia Cup today. Nepal has finally qualified to play in the main stage of the Asia Cup by competing well. I was really impressed with the attendance in the match where Nepal qualified for the main stage of the Asia Cup. The entire stadium was full of people and the under-construction buildings and plants around the stadium were full of people, that is, the people of Nepal gave Nepali cricket a different kind of love that day. We might expect similar support from Nepal in the first match against Pakistan as well. Whether in the stadium or in front of the TV, everyone will support their team well. It's not about winning against Pakistan, I think it's a big achievement for Nepal to qualify for the main stage of the Asia Cup and have India and Pakistan as opponents.

Yes.. It was a rain affected match, and Nepal was able to win only because there was a reserve day. More than ten thousand people were in attendance at the Tribhuvan University International Cricket Ground. There were a total of 10 teams participating in the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup, and out of this only the top team was supposed to qualify. Nepal defeated United Arab Emirates in the final match and thereby secured qualification to the main tournament. The final was very one-sided with UAE getting bowled out for just 117 runs.

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Nepal will face Pakistan in the first match of the Asia Cup today. Nepal has finally qualified to play in the main stage of the Asia Cup by competing well. I was really impressed with the attendance in the match where Nepal qualified for the main stage of the Asia Cup. The entire stadium was full of people and the under-construction buildings and plants around the stadium were full of people, that is, the people of Nepal gave Nepali cricket a different kind of love that day. We might expect similar support from Nepal in the first match against Pakistan as well. Whether in the stadium or in front of the TV, everyone will support their team well. It's not about winning against Pakistan, I think it's a big achievement for Nepal to qualify for the main stage of the Asia Cup and have India and Pakistan as opponents.

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Quote from: elevates on August 29, 2023, 06:43:36 AM

Only few hours left for the first match of this tournament to start! How many of you are excited to watch the first match? I am as the first match would be played in Pakistan. Amids all the controversies the first match between Pakistan and Nepal would be an entertaining match for the Pakistani spectators. In any case I am expecting Pakistan to win. Don't know whether they mess up such an easy game, as history and unpredictability has been part of the Pakistani team.

After watching little news channel and social media sites I am feeling there is no excitement in Pakistan about this event because things are going from bad to worse due to domestic issues so most chances we will have not good fans in grounds as well but if they allow free entry then we can expect good number of fans with first match between Pakistan vs Nepal mostly know how things will be gone in this match even Pakistan is unpredictable side with having history of many shocking results most chances there will be not upset in this match with they just won series against Afghanistan which was better team then Nepal.

But, maybe we will have some excitement in next game which will play between India vs Pakistan in Kandy even things are not favorable for the Pakistan but still some fans can go through for this match I am feeling comfortable as ACC decided to host this event in Sri Lanka because if we have this in Pakistan then surely things could be not as we needed for this event.

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I don't understand one thing about Asia Cup schedule, there is super 4 match schedule at Lahore on 6 Sep 2023 between A1 vs B2. Now if India was at number 1 position in group A then will they travel to Pakistan for this game or I am missing something? There are 4 matches to be played in Pakistan and all teams less India will visit Pakistan for group stage matches. Its a smart move from PCB that despite shifting Asia Cup to SL they still manage to host all countries at least once.

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Quote from: elevates on August 29, 2023, 06:43:36 AM

Only few hours left for the first match of this tournament to start! How many of you are excited to watch the first match? I am as the first match would be played in Pakistan. Amids all the controversies the first match between Pakistan and Nepal would be an entertaining match for the Pakistani spectators. In any case I am expecting Pakistan to win. Don't know whether they mess up such an easy game, as history and unpredictability has been part of the Pakistani team.

Can't speak for others but I'm more excited about the Asia Cup. Because Asian superpower teams like Pakistan,India will play here. Yes, the first match will be an entertaining match for Pakistan. It will not be wrong to say that Pakistan's victory in this match is 90%. Nepal team is the first participant in this year's Asia Cup and they will never want to lose the first match in their first edition. But they have a strong team like Pakistan in front of them. It remains to be seen how Nepal will handle them. Sometimes the smaller team beats the bigger team. Pakistan will not make any mistakes to give Nepal any chance to win the match. Pakistan will definitely play with this in mind in their next match against India so they won't give Nepal any chance to win.

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Only few hours left for the first match of this tournament to start! How many of you are excited to watch the first match? I am as the first match would be played in Pakistan. Amids all the controversies the first match between Pakistan and Nepal would be an entertaining match for the Pakistani spectators. In any case I am expecting Pakistan to win. Don't know whether they mess up such an easy game, as history and unpredictability has been part of the Pakistani team.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on August 28, 2023, 10:36:37 PM

The first match of Asia Cup will be played between Pakistan vs Nepal, the match will start at Multan Cricket Stadium in Pakistan. Between the two teams we know Pakistan is in better form in this Asia Cup so we can say that Pakistan can win this match against Nepal. The first match of the group will be played tomorrow and we will see a good game between the two teams. If I see betting avoidance where there are many differences between Pakistani and Nepali accordingly I can say that betting for Pakistan is possible to win.

Asia Cup 2023 is going to be auspiciously inaugurated with Pakistan vs Nepal match. Yesterday's match was going to be a very easy one for Pakistan. The most interesting match between Pakistan India and Nepal in the group is the match between India and Pakistan. The results of the group that Nepal Pakistan and India are in can be said with certainty. India and Pakistan are sure to qualify for the next round. As per the current equation, Nepal cannot win any match against India and Pakistan. The Asia Cup would have been much more interesting from the start if the opening match of the Asia Cup tournament was between Pakistan and India.

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Quote from: Bureau on August 29, 2023, 02:13:48 AM

Undoubtedly Pakistan is a much better team than Nepal. Playing on their home ground will be another advantage for Pakistan. I hate to say this, but it is worthless to compare Nepal with Pakistan and I still do not know why Nepal was selected for the Asia Cup tournament. The last time that Nepal played with an international team was with Zimbabwe in this year. Unfortunately, they lost by 8 wickets, considering that match it would be a cakewalk for Pakistan tomorrow.

Don't forget Pakistan team is too good in giving surprises. They lost to new teams like Bangladesh and Ireland in ODI WC 1999 and 2007 respectively. Recently Pakistan lost to Zimbabwe in T20 WC. So we cant say that Nepal cant beat Pakistan, technically its possible. I am happy to see Nepal joining the International cricket events and they are only one in this region who are left behind in cricket.

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Tomorrow is the first match of the Asia Cup between Pakistan and Nepal. Of course! Pakistan can win easily against Nepal because Pakistan is the no.1 team in ODI cricket and Nepal doesn't have a position in the top 10 in ODI cricket teams. I want to see this Asia Cup trophy in Pakistan's hands.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on August 28, 2023, 10:36:37 PM

The first match of Asia Cup will be played between Pakistan vs Nepal, the match will start at Multan Cricket Stadium in Pakistan. Between the two teams we know Pakistan is in better form in this Asia Cup so we can say that Pakistan can win this match against Nepal. The first match of the group will be played tomorrow and we will see a good game between the two teams. If I see betting avoidance where there are many differences between Pakistani and Nepali accordingly I can say that betting for Pakistan is possible to win.

Undoubtedly Pakistan is a much better team than Nepal. Playing on their home ground will be another advantage for Pakistan. I hate to say this, but it is worthless to compare Nepal with Pakistan and I still do not know why Nepal was selected for the Asia Cup tournament. The last time that Nepal played with an international team was with Zimbabwe in this year. Unfortunately, they lost by 8 wickets, considering that match it would be a cakewalk for Pakistan tomorrow.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on August 28, 2023, 10:23:27 PM

The most important thing for India is that India will be playing on their familiar pitch in the World Cup. The World Cup is going to be held in India. And every pitch is very well known by the Indian players. Due to this, India is considered as the favorite in the upcoming ODI World Cup.

There is no doubt that the Indian team is very strong. Also you said that this could be the last ODI World Cup for several of India's senior players. This is probably the last ODI World Cup for Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma and Jadeja. So they will try their best to win the World Cup. But the way India has played in the last few series, it is not enough to become the champions of the World Cup. The performance of India's batsmen needs to improve. Otherwise, it will not be possible for the team to become world champions.

The problem with playing matches in India is that not just the Indian players, but many of the overseas players are also familiar with the ground and climatic conditions. A lot of foreign players (especially those from countries such as Australia, England, South Africa and West Indies) have been a regular fixture of the Indian Premier League, ever since it was launched in 2008. As a result, foreign players are comfortable with Indian conditions, while the Indian players don't have that advantage while playing in SENA nations.

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The first match of Asia Cup will be played between Pakistan vs Nepal, the match will start at Multan Cricket Stadium in Pakistan. Between the two teams we know Pakistan is in better form in this Asia Cup so we can say that Pakistan can win this match against Nepal. The first match of the group will be played tomorrow and we will see a good game between the two teams. If I see betting avoidance where there are many differences between Pakistani and Nepali accordingly I can say that betting for Pakistan is possible to win.

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There is no doubt that the Indian team is strong. They have a lot of talented players. But this team is not in good form. Team players are not playing well consistently. The performance of India's opening pair in particular has now become very erratic. In the last few series I have not seen good performances from India as expected. Asia Cup is very important for India. Because the Asia Cup can be like a warm up series for India before the next World Cup.

I know that the Indian players are targeting the ODI world cup, because it is a golden opportunity to win a major ICC trophy after so many years. They believe that they can use the home conditions to their advantage. Obviously senior players including Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Ravindra Jadeja and Mohammed Shami would like to get their hands on an ICC trophy before they retire. And this year's world cup represent the most probable pathway. And as you said, Asia Cup will act as a warm up series. Honestly, if they fail to win world cup this time also, then these senior players should retire from limited overs cricket.

The most important thing for India is that India will be playing on their familiar pitch in the World Cup. The World Cup is going to be held in India. And every pitch is very well known by the Indian players. Due to this, India is considered as the favorite in the upcoming ODI World Cup.

There is no doubt that the Indian team is very strong. Also you said that this could be the last ODI World Cup for several of India's senior players. This is probably the last ODI World Cup for Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma and Jadeja. So they will try their best to win the World Cup. But the way India has played in the last few series, it is not enough to become the champions of the World Cup. The performance of India's batsmen needs to improve. Otherwise, it will not be possible for the team to become world champions.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on August 28, 2023, 09:48:18 PM

There is no doubt that the Indian team is strong. They have a lot of talented players. But this team is not in good form. Team players are not playing well consistently. The performance of India's opening pair in particular has now become very erratic. In the last few series I have not seen good performances from India as expected. Asia Cup is very important for India. Because the Asia Cup can be like a warm up series for India before the next World Cup.

I know that the Indian players are targeting the ODI world cup, because it is a golden opportunity to win a major ICC trophy after so many years. They believe that they can use the home conditions to their advantage. Obviously senior players including Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Ravindra Jadeja and Mohammed Shami would like to get their hands on an ICC trophy before they retire. And this year's world cup represent the most probable pathway. And as you said, Asia Cup will act as a warm up series. Honestly, if they fail to win world cup this time also, then these senior players should retire from limited overs cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 28, 2023, 09:26:20 PM

The problem with India is that despite having some of the best players, they never win major tournaments. They perform well during the group phase, and then always go down during the knockout stage. Initially I thought that by removing panauti senior (Kohli) from the captaincy this can be resolved. But even panauti junior (Rohit) has gone the same way. Given this, I would assume that Pakistan has the best chance to win the tournament this time. Sri Lanka has performed well recently, but they are a shadow of what they were two decades ago. Afghanistan and Nepal are there just to make up the numbers.

Yes what you say is 100% true because I have seen India perform very well in group stage but when they come from group stage to get knockout then the best batsmen of the team play badly and finally they can't make knockout stage confirmed. Over the past few years, India have seen such poor performances in the T20 World Cup, ICC ODI World Cup, and Asia Cups. But even though Pakistan played poorly in the group stage, they performed well in the knockout stage and have a record of winning the championship. In this year's Asia Cup, I hold India as a favorite, but if they have no problems in the group stage, how well they can perform in the knockout phase is just a matter of time.

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Pakistan is my favorite team in this year's Asia Cup. And personally I think Pakistan has the best chance to win the Asia Cup. I have watched Pakistan's recent ODI series performances against Afghanistan and New Zealand. They played well. Pakistan won the series 4-1 against New Zealand and 3-0 against Afghanistan. Almost every batsman in the team is capable of batting well now. Pakistan's dependence on Babar Azam and Rizwan has reduced a lot. This is why Pakistan's performance is stable now.

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The problem with India is that despite having some of the best players, they never win major tournaments. They perform well during the group phase, and then always go down during the knockout stage. Initially I thought that by removing panauti senior (Kohli) from the captaincy this can be resolved. But even panauti junior (Rohit) has gone the same way. Given this, I would assume that Pakistan has the best chance to win the tournament this time. Sri Lanka has performed well recently, but they are a shadow of what they were two decades ago. Afghanistan and Nepal are there just to make up the numbers.

There is no doubt that the Indian team is strong. They have a lot of talented players. But this team is not in good form. Team players are not playing well consistently. The performance of India's opening pair in particular has now become very erratic. In the last few series I have not seen good performances from India as expected. Asia Cup is very important for India. Because the Asia Cup can be like a warm up series for India before the next World Cup.

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