ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 45.

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Quote from: Bureau on November 01, 2023, 03:42:23 AM

Intresting! New Zealand belives that they will be able to chase the he target. They did the same with Australia but lost by 5 runs. If South Africa gets a good start today they would try to surpass 400 runs. Then it will not be easy for the New Zealand team to chase that big score.

The bowlers would have to get a couple of wickets within the first power play. That will restrict the South African team to not go after something big as a target. Still the Pune pitch is batter friendly it won't be that easy to get wickets unless the batter gives his wicket away.

New Zealand decided to bowl first to give the toss. Both teams are fighting in the semi-final match. South Africa is on 10 points with 5 wins from 6 six matches. New Zealand has 8 points with 4 wins in 6 matches. Great performance South Africa De Cock scored 57 off 75 balls. De Kock and Bandosen formed a great partnership between them. 136 runs one wicket in 26 overs. New Zealand need to improve their bowling line. If South Africa can score 380 runs, it will not be easy for New Zealand. Good luck to both teams. Who will be ahead in their semi-final fight?

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Bangladesh cricket team is going through their worst period now, their performance is going down continuously in every match which is really disappointing for Bangladeshi cricket fans. Bangladesh is failing in every department, batting, bowling, fielding is bad condition of the whole team. Bangladesh cricket team after their poor performance in this World Cup and if their cricket board doesn't start thinking about how to handle this situation then more bad days are waiting for their cricket.

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

After the defeat against the Netherlands, I am sure that the Bangladesh team will not be able to win any more matches in this World Cup. The Bangladesh team is the weakest in this World Cup. The team lost the truck after a good performance against Afghanistan in the first match. We have seen very bad batting from the batsmen of Bangladesh team in every match. And since every pitch is batting friendly. So the team is not able to win any match due to batsmen's bad batting. Especially I will talk about the performance of top order players of Bangladesh. Tamim and Shanto can't do well in any match.

Look like Bangladesh team have some internally issue with the team feel like they are sleeping in world cup. Whaile Pakistan have also victory after 4 consecutive losses Mohammad Wasim bowling performance is amazing also picked 3 important wicktes by giving 32 runs in 8.1 overs. Haris Rauf is expensive at start of bowling but later he picked 2 wickets by giving 36 runs in 8 overs. Pakistan chase down the target of 205 runs in loss of 3 wickets in 32.3 overs. Fakhar Zaman batting performance is outstanding scored 81 runs in just 74 balls miss his well deserved century by 19 runs short.

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Intresting! New Zealand belives that they will be able to chase the he target. They did the same with Australia but lost by 5 runs. If South Africa gets a good start today they would try to surpass 400 runs. Then it will not be easy for the New Zealand team to chase that big score.

The bowlers would have to get a couple of wickets within the first power play. That will restrict the South African team to not go after something big as a target. Still the Pune pitch is batter friendly it won't be that easy to get wickets unless the batter gives his wicket away.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2023, 02:42:06 AM

It is the ultimate irony. South Africa defeated all the stronger teams in this tournament, but their only defeat so far came against the weakest team (at least as far as the ICC rankings are concerned). And no one expected them to lose that match. They were able to restrict Netherlands to just 245 runs (and had them at 140/7 when Logan van Beek got out). For a team that made 428 against Sri Lanka, a target of 246 should have been cakewalk. But what happened next is history. Logan van Beek picked up 3 wickets and Paul van Meekeren, Roelof van der Merwe and Bas de Leede picked 2 each and in the end Proteas were blasted out for just 207 runs.

The team South Africa had won all the team except the team Netherland.It was the strongest win of the Netherland to the top team of the table.So the coming Netherland and Afghanistan match going to be the nail biting.The New Zealand itself won all the game except the game against the India and Australia.The New Zealand and South Africa match will be the most expected for the most of the team around the world.Because the win to the South Africa is not the advantage to them.They already ion the top.The win for the New Zealand will help them to keep in the top four place.So today match was the important for the New Zealand compared to the team South Africa.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2023, 01:51:51 AM

South Africa is in great form, but New Zealand is not. The latter have now lost two consecutive matches. During the initial rounds, they performed much better than what was expected from them, but they went down against India and Australia (perhaps two of the strongest teams in this tournament). And now they are against another strong team in the form of South Africa. The issue here for New Zealand is that it is a must win game for them. If they lose, then there is a good chance that they may not qualify for the semi-finals.

Losing game does not mean you are not in a good form, in none of those two matches NZ were thrashed.

Anyway, toss just happened and NZ choose to bowl first. Let's see if SA puts up huge total again as they are batting first.

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Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

Only Liton Das and Mahmudullah are scoring runs for Bangladesh. There is hardly any contribution from anyone else. And they are losing matches primarily because of their batsmen. The bowlers are doing a decent job, but the batsmen never give them a good enough target to defend. Top order and middle order have been performing pathetically ever since the tournament started. The lower order on the other hand have been adding valuable runs. Once the tournament is over, the selectors need to do a complete revamp of the squad.

I think Bangladesh should focus on their domestic cricket structure; old horses are still their best bet. Their three senior players will be retiring in a few years, and they haven't prepared their replacements yet; we haven't seen a talent worthy of appreciation from Bangladesh in this World Cup. Their bowling is decent, but they should focus on their batting. In this World Cup, only Mahmudullah and Liton are scoring some runs, but they are also not very consistent. Youngsters are not that good when you compare them with other players in the World.
After the retirement of Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiqur, and Mahmudullah, they will be in big trouble because their replacements are not ready. I think they will struggle as Sri Lanka did after the retirement of Sanga, Mahela and Dilshan. It took Sri Lankan cricket many years to make a team worthy of global competition.

Op I agree with you but apart from domestic cricket they need to focus more on batting. Bangladesh bowls fairly well but Bangladesh batting is very poor. First of all, there is a problem in Bangladesh selection. Because Bangladesh cricket president Nazmul Hasan Papon should select players from all over Bangladesh. If the best players from all over Bangladesh are selected and played in the Bangladesh national team without corruption. If they can perform well then they should be given a chance to play in the national team. If the Bangladesh team is organized like this, maybe our Bangladesh team can go further in the future. Bangladesh's batting woes in 2023 World Cup We who are cricket fans would definitely want Bangladesh to return to good form after the batting problems they have faced. 2023 World Cup has become such a situation for Bangladesh that who knows whether Bangladesh will lose the eligibility to play in the upcoming championship.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2023, 02:42:06 AM

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Going by the stats the New Zealand team has won more matches than the South African team in 50 overs matches while playing against each other. This time the South African team is very different they have played an outstanding game of cricket. Except for the one match against the Netherlands where they lost. I am expecting the South African side to win today against the Kiwis. The betting odds do favor the South African team by a small margin, then also I feel they would make a big impact on the points table today. If the Kiwis get defeated then Australia would go up the rank on the point table.

It is the ultimate irony. South Africa defeated all the stronger teams in this tournament, but their only defeat so far came against the weakest team (at least as far as the ICC rankings are concerned). And no one expected them to lose that match. They were able to restrict Netherlands to just 245 runs (and had them at 140/7 when Logan van Beek got out). For a team that made 428 against Sri Lanka, a target of 246 should have been cakewalk. But what happened next is history. Logan van Beek picked up 3 wickets and Paul van Meekeren, Roelof van der Merwe and Bas de Leede picked 2 each and in the end Proteas were blasted out for just 207 runs.

@Sithara007 New Zealand should not underestimate this SA side and they must play their best game if they want to have any chance of winning this match because this new SA won’t allow them to win this game easily. Furthermore I’m torn whom to support between these two team’s and honestly I would not advise wagering on either as it’s extremely difficult to predict as to how they’ll perform today under pressure.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 01, 2023, 02:28:51 AM

Going by the stats the New Zealand team has won more matches than the South African team in 50 overs matches while playing against each other. This time the South African team is very different they have played an outstanding game of cricket. Except for the one match against the Netherlands where they lost. I am expecting the South African side to win today against the Kiwis. The betting odds do favor the South African team by a small margin, then also I feel they would make a big impact on the points table today. If the Kiwis get defeated then Australia would go up the rank on the point table.

It is the ultimate irony. South Africa defeated all the stronger teams in this tournament, but their only defeat so far came against the weakest team (at least as far as the ICC rankings are concerned). And no one expected them to lose that match. They were able to restrict Netherlands to just 245 runs (and had them at 140/7 when Logan van Beek got out). For a team that made 428 against Sri Lanka, a target of 246 should have been cakewalk. But what happened next is history. Logan van Beek picked up 3 wickets and Paul van Meekeren, Roelof van der Merwe and Bas de Leede picked 2 each and in the end Proteas were blasted out for just 207 runs.

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Going by the stats the New Zealand team has won more matches than the South African team in 50 overs matches while playing against each other. This time the South African team is very different they have played an outstanding game of cricket. Except for the one match against the Netherlands where they lost. I am expecting the South African side to win today against the Kiwis. The betting odds do favor the South African team by a small margin, then also I feel they would make a big impact on the points table today. If the Kiwis get defeated then Australia would go up the rank on the point table.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 01, 2023, 12:40:41 AM

Quote from: Cheema02 on October 31, 2023, 11:37:39 PM

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

Only Liton Das and Mahmudullah are scoring runs for Bangladesh. There is hardly any contribution from anyone else. And they are losing matches primarily because of their batsmen. The bowlers are doing a decent job, but the batsmen never give them a good enough target to defend. Top order and middle order have been performing pathetically ever since the tournament started. The lower order on the other hand have been adding valuable runs. Once the tournament is over, the selectors need to do a complete revamp of the squad.

I think Bangladesh should focus on their domestic cricket structure; old horses are still their best bet. Their three senior players will be retiring in a few years, and they haven't prepared their replacements yet; we haven't seen a talent worthy of appreciation from Bangladesh in this World Cup. Their bowling is decent, but they should focus on their batting. In this World Cup, only Mahmudullah and Liton are scoring some runs, but they are also not very consistent. Youngsters are not that good when you compare them with other players in the World.
After the retirement of Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiqur, and Mahmudullah, they will be in big trouble because their replacements are not ready. I think they will struggle as Sri Lanka did after the retirement of Sanga, Mahela and Dilshan. It took Sri Lankan cricket many years to make a team worthy of global competition.

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Quote from: synchronym on November 01, 2023, 01:45:20 AM

Today's South Africa vs New Zealand match will be a high voltage match. That's because South Africa and New Zealand both teams are in great form. Both teams will want to win today because they will secure semi-final by winning. In this South Africa vs New Zealand match I will place New Zealand ahead. We have seen the previous games of New Zealand, New Zealand is batting well. Today if New Zealand gets to bat first then if New Zealand can score 350 runs then New Zealand can win today's match. New Zealand can win if they bowl well and stop the South African batsmen from scoring runs with good bowling. Best wishes to both the teams, let's see which team wins and secures the semi-finals.

South Africa is in great form, but New Zealand is not. The latter have now lost two consecutive matches. During the initial rounds, they performed much better than what was expected from them, but they went down against India and Australia (perhaps two of the strongest teams in this tournament). And now they are against another strong team in the form of South Africa. The issue here for New Zealand is that it is a must win game for them. If they lose, then there is a good chance that they may not qualify for the semi-finals.

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Today's South Africa vs New Zealand match will be a high voltage match. That's because South Africa and New Zealand both teams are in great form. Both teams will want to win today because they will secure semi-final by winning. In this South Africa vs New Zealand match I will place New Zealand ahead. We have seen the previous games of New Zealand, New Zealand is batting well. Today if New Zealand gets to bat first then if New Zealand can score 350 runs then New Zealand can win today's match. New Zealand can win if they bowl well and stop the South African batsmen from scoring runs with good bowling. Best wishes to both the teams, let's see which team wins and secures the semi-finals.

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Quote from: Essential10 on October 31, 2023, 11:58:59 AM

It was Bangladesh's sixth consecutive defeat against Pakistan at the famous Eden Garden ground in Kolkata. At the end of the day if we try to look at the picture of the whole team and how it compares with other teams in the whole World Cup. The games with the rest of the team except Afghanistan were random. The performance of the team in the top five in the Super League is too disappointing for the audience in their home country to accept it. Bangladesh's worst performance in the history of World Cup in this event.

After a win over Bangladesh by seven wickets, Pakistan moves to the fifth spot in the points table with six points and keeps themselves in contention for the semi-final race in this world cup. Fakhar Zaman bags Player of the Match in his comeback game for Pakistan with a brilliant 81 knock. Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan hunt to win the first ever ODI World Cup trophy is over as Bangladesh was knocked out after seven matches in World cup 2023.

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Important match today! New Zealand takes on South Africa at Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium. New Zealand has to win today if they want to see themselves in the semifinals. They lost to Australia in their last match due to poor bowling. Toss would again play an important factor. The betting odds favour South Africa as they have lost only one game in the tournament whereas the New Zealand side has lost two games.

Betting Odds

New Zealand - 2.169
South Africa - 1.722

Can the New Zealand team win against South Africa?

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Quote from: Cheema02 on October 31, 2023, 11:37:39 PM

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

Only Liton Das and Mahmudullah are scoring runs for Bangladesh. There is hardly any contribution from anyone else. And they are losing matches primarily because of their batsmen. The bowlers are doing a decent job, but the batsmen never give them a good enough target to defend. Top order and middle order have been performing pathetically ever since the tournament started. The lower order on the other hand have been adding valuable runs. Once the tournament is over, the selectors need to do a complete revamp of the squad.

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Quote from: Cheema02 on October 31, 2023, 11:37:39 PM

Quote from: ScamViruS on October 31, 2023, 02:21:54 PM

Bangladesh cricket team is going through their worst period now, their performance is going down continuously in every match which is really disappointing for Bangladeshi cricket fans. Bangladesh is failing in every department, batting, bowling, fielding is bad condition of the whole team. Bangladesh cricket team after their poor performance in this World Cup and if their cricket board doesn't start thinking about how to handle this situation then more bad days are waiting for their cricket.

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

After the defeat against the Netherlands, I am sure that the Bangladesh team will not be able to win any more matches in this World Cup. The Bangladesh team is the weakest in this World Cup. The team lost the truck after a good performance against Afghanistan in the first match. We have seen very bad batting from the batsmen of Bangladesh team in every match. And since every pitch is batting friendly. So the team is not able to win any match due to batsmen's bad batting. Especially I will talk about the performance of top order players of Bangladesh. Tamim and Shanto can't do well in any match. Also I don't know why Tawhid Hridoy has been kept in the squad. I have never seen any batting more responsible than him in a single match.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on October 31, 2023, 02:21:54 PM

Bangladesh cricket team is going through their worst period now, their performance is going down continuously in every match which is really disappointing for Bangladeshi cricket fans. Bangladesh is failing in every department, batting, bowling, fielding is bad condition of the whole team. Bangladesh cricket team after their poor performance in this World Cup and if their cricket board doesn't start thinking about how to handle this situation then more bad days are waiting for their cricket.

Bangladesh is playing very poor cricket in this world cup. Bangladesh scored 204 runs all out in 45.1 over. From Bangladesh Mahmudullah batting well scored 56 runs in 70 balls Liton Das also played an important innings of 45 runs in 64 balls, Shakib Al Hasan also scored 43 runs unfortunately miss his half century by 7 runs. Pakistan bowling performance is amazing especially Shaheen Afridi picked 3 wickets by giving 23 runs in 9 overs. Pakistan won this match by 7 wickets a huge victory for Pakistan.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on October 31, 2023, 10:53:59 PM

As a team, New Zealand is a completely balanced team compared to South Africa, but in this World Cup tournament, I think South Africa is performing better than New Zealand. I will not put any team ahead before the match because it is between two teams where there is no chance to put any team ahead. Both South Africa and New Zealand have a lot of experience in the IPL and both teams will definitely try to use that IPL experience to do well in this match. If South Africa wins this match against New Zealand today, they will move to number one in the points table and if New Zealand wins against South Africa today, South Africa will move to number three and New Zealand to number two in the points table.

Even if South Africa lose today, they will remain at no.2 in the points table, I guess. Because they have a much higher NRR when compared to New Zealand (+2.032 for RSA and +1.232 for New Zealand). But that would mean that the top 3 teams (India, New Zealand and South Africa are assured of semi-final slots) as it become impossible for either Pakistan or Afghanistan to overtake them. But if New Zealand loses, then it is very much possible for the middle ranking teams to rise to the 4th position by the end of the group phase.

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Quote from: Littlemini on October 31, 2023, 09:20:48 PM

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Today in the 32nd match of the World Cup, two of the top teams of the tournament will go up against each other. Today's match will be played between New Zealand and South Africa. New Zealand failed to create a high-voltage match against Australia where they lost 2 points, so they will definitely be looking to recover their 2 points against South Africa.

On the other hand, South Africa is in a great form of winning the last three matches in a row so it is difficult for New Zealand to win against South Africa. I can guarantee that today's match will be a lot more interesting as both the teams have some T20 specialist players who are used to batting in T20 style from the beginning and they are definitely looking forward to do something great against the opposition.

One November SA vs NZ will see a great innings. South Africa are second in the points table with 5 wins from 6 matches. And they are coming in with a thrilling win against Pakistan. On the other hand, New Zealand is at the third position in the points table with four wins in six matches. Both teams will try to retain their victory in this match. Is this a match that will be difficult to decide due to the performance of both sides? The team that decides to bowl first can be better. But today South Africa is in some form.

As a team, New Zealand is a completely balanced team compared to South Africa, but in this World Cup tournament, I think South Africa is performing better than New Zealand. I will not put any team ahead before the match because it is between two teams where there is no chance to put any team ahead. Both South Africa and New Zealand have a lot of experience in the IPL and both teams will definitely try to use that IPL experience to do well in this match. If South Africa wins this match against New Zealand today, they will move to number one in the points table and if New Zealand wins against South Africa today, South Africa will move to number three and New Zealand to number two in the points table.

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Quote from: Littlemini on October 31, 2023, 09:20:48 PM

One November SA vs NZ will see a great innings. South Africa are second in the points table with 5 wins from 6 matches. And they are coming in with a thrilling win against Pakistan. On the other hand, New Zealand is at the third position in the points table with four wins in six matches. Both teams will try to retain their victory in this match. Is this a match that will be difficult to decide due to the performance of both sides? The team that decides to bowl first can be better. But today South Africa is in some form.

If they win, South Africa are in the semi-finals (even at this stage, it is 99% certain). But New Zealand needs to be cautious. There are still permutations and combinations that would see New Zealand dropping out of the semi-final stage. It will be interesting to see the results from Pakistan and Afghanistan. If these teams win most of their remaining matches, then things will get difficult for New Zealand. Anyway, today's match is going to take place at the Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium in Pune, where the batsmen will be having a fair advantage.

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