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November 17, 2023, 01:14:58 AM
I think Turning Points for Spinners Shamsi crucial dismissals of Australian bastmen including Glenn Maxwell for a duck. South Africa Spinners Keshav Maharaj and Tabraiz Shamsi 2-42 in a low scoring game and fast bowlers Coetzee 2 for 47 , causing trouble for Australia middle order bastmen. South Africa's early struggles, recording their lowest 10-over score in 15 years, but the Miller brilliant century, reached the South Africa total to 212. Australia top class bowler performance Wickets for Mitchell Starc 3-34 and Josh Hazlewood 2-12.

Keshav Maharaj was the one who made Australian batsmen struggle. He ended up with figures of 10-0-24-1. He tied down the Aussie batsmen and also picked up the crucial wicket of Travis Head (top-scorer for Australia yesterday). Tabraiz Shamsi picked up two wickets, but he has expensive. And it was perplexing to see Marco Jansen not being used. He only bowled 4.2 overs. So far in this tournament, he was the best bowler for South Africa and it was surprising to see him not being used during yesterday's match. 
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November 16, 2023, 10:45:00 PM
Proteas had one strength in this WC, batting first and outbat their opponent and putting them out of the game convincingly but here comes the knockout and they are back to their usual stuff of choking.

Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
Tabraiz Shamsi and kesev Maharaj struggling hard to save South Africa. But in the end, no one can say whether South Africa will be able to save the last. But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Australia won by 3 wickets against South Africa 215/7 in 2nd semi final, Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins won the match for Australia at last. Now It's an India vs Australia-Final of world cup. South Africa lose yet another semi-final. Travis Head played a excellent knock for Australia 62 off 48 balls. There was fight from both South  Africa and Australia sides, match turning point when tabriz Shamsi took the big wicket of Maxwell but the runs on the board are very short 213 for South Africa to defend.

The South African bowlers made the match competitive despite giving away a  target of just 213 runs. However, Australian  batsmen batted very  well in the first 10 overs. He scored 74 runs in the first 10 overs. Travis Head's innings of 62 off 48 balls kept Australia in control of the match. However, the match became competitive due to  the poor performance  of the middle order. I expected  a more responsible performance from the Australian batsmen. With such a performance, Australia will not be able to do well against India in the final match. To do well in the final, Australia's batsmen need to do better. India is a very strong team. If the batsmen perform so erratically against India, the attempt will be by a big margin to the Australian team.
I think Turning Points for Spinners Shamsi crucial dismissals of Australian bastmen including Glenn Maxwell for a duck. South Africa Spinners Keshav Maharaj and Tabraiz Shamsi 2-42 in a low scoring game and fast bowlers Coetzee 2 for 47 , causing trouble for Australia middle order bastmen. South Africa's early struggles, recording their lowest 10-over score in 15 years, but the Miller brilliant century, reached the South Africa total to 212. Australia top class bowler performance Wickets for Mitchell Starc 3-34 and Josh Hazlewood 2-12.
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November 16, 2023, 10:08:37 PM
So, it is confirmed now that India would be playing against Australia in the finals. Looks like the South African dig their own grave by choosing to bat first. Holding on to a liability like thier captain, who hasn't played a good knock in the tournament. Then the last would be thier management which decided to keep him as a captain.

Australia has a past of snatching the cups in the finals. I hope they don't get another chance. It is like the New Zealand team which has been defeating the Indian team from 2003 until yesterday when they lost. A reminder the New Zealand team has not won the cup and niether have the African team.
Five times South Africa have faced each other in the semi-finals and each time they have lost in the semi-finals. Losing it in the semi-final is not acceptable at all. Why did South Africa perform so badly in the semi-final when they batted first in each game and scored 400 runs while yesterday they started the game with 4 wickets falling for 40 runs. However, I do not want to make any further comments about the degradation of South Africa.
Australia will face India in the final after defeating South Africa in tomorrow's match. However, every team is very important in the final, but if you consider it from that point of view, if the five-time world champions Australia pass the final, they will win the final. But from this side, India will get the advantage of the home ground in their own home ground, so they also have a chance. I can only hope that India will go to the World Cup this time as a neighboring country. I wish India win the World Cup.
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November 16, 2023, 04:45:27 PM
So, it is confirmed now that India would be playing against Australia in the finals. Looks like the South African dig their own grave by choosing to bat first. Holding on to a liability like thier captain, who hasn't played a good knock in the tournament. Then the last would be thier management which decided to keep him as a captain.

Australia has a past of snatching the cups in the finals. I hope they don't get another chance. It is like the New Zealand team which has been defeating the Indian team from 2003 until yesterday when they lost. A reminder the New Zealand team has not won the cup and niether have the African team.
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November 16, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Proteas had one strength in this WC, batting first and outbat their opponent and putting them out of the game convincingly but here comes the knockout and they are back to their usual stuff of choking.

Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
Tabraiz Shamsi and kesev Maharaj struggling hard to save South Africa. But in the end, no one can say whether South Africa will be able to save the last. But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Australia won by 3 wickets against South Africa 215/7 in 2nd semi final, Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins won the match for Australia at last. Now It's an India vs Australia-Final of world cup. South Africa lose yet another semi-final. Travis Head played a excellent knock for Australia 62 off 48 balls. There was fight from both South  Africa and Australia sides, match turning point when tabriz Shamsi took the big wicket of Maxwell but the runs on the board are very short 213 for South Africa to defend.

The South African bowlers made the match competitive despite giving away a  target of just 213 runs. However, Australian  batsmen batted very  well in the first 10 overs. He scored 74 runs in the first 10 overs. Travis Head's innings of 62 off 48 balls kept Australia in control of the match. However, the match became competitive due to  the poor performance  of the middle order. I expected  a more responsible performance from the Australian batsmen. With such a performance, Australia will not be able to do well against India in the final match. To do well in the final, Australia's batsmen need to do better. India is a very strong team. If the batsmen perform so erratically against India, the attempt will be by a big margin to the Australian team.
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November 16, 2023, 01:09:20 PM
Proteas had one strength in this WC, batting first and outbat their opponent and putting them out of the game convincingly but here comes the knockout and they are back to their usual stuff of choking.

Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
Tabraiz Shamsi and kesev Maharaj struggling hard to save South Africa. But in the end, no one can say whether South Africa will be able to save the last. But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Australia won by 3 wickets against South Africa 215/7 in 2nd semi final, Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins won the match for Australia at last. Now It's an India vs Australia-Final of world cup. South Africa lose yet another semi-final. Travis Head played a excellent knock for Australia 62 off 48 balls. There was fight from both South  Africa and Australia sides, match turning point when tabriz Shamsi took the big wicket of Maxwell but the runs on the board are very short 213 for South Africa to defend.

I would say that South Africa tried their best both in their batting and bowling to get out of the crisis but eventually failed in the end. They were 4 wickets quickly down at 24 runs only. The match could have been lost straight from there but David Miller fought back and made 101 runs and eventually helped South Africa some run to bowl with.

Then their (South Africans) bowlers did a great job, took the match to the 47th over, and made every run count for the Australian batsmen, There was no free scoring and it was a great game to watch, a low scoring match but still a thriller to watch. One team has to lose and one team has to win, South Africa was on the losing side but they fought really hard.
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November 16, 2023, 12:53:18 PM
Proteas had one strength in this WC, batting first and outbat their opponent and putting them out of the game convincingly but here comes the knockout and they are back to their usual stuff of choking.

Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
Tabraiz Shamsi and kesev Maharaj struggling hard to save South Africa. But in the end, no one can say whether South Africa will be able to save the last. But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Australia won by 3 wickets against South Africa 215/7 in 2nd semi final, Mitchell Starc and Pat Cummins won the match for Australia at last. Now It's an India vs Australia-Final of world cup. South Africa lose yet another semi-final. Travis Head played a excellent knock for Australia 62 off 48 balls. There was fight from both South  Africa and Australia sides, match turning point when tabriz Shamsi took the big wicket of Maxwell but the runs on the board are very short 213 for South Africa to defend.
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November 16, 2023, 12:40:21 PM
David Miller's individual 101 helped South Africa build resistance to chase down Australia with a target of 213 runs. Had pat cummins not missed the catch in the 45th over, the game could have taken a different turn. In the end, Australia secured the final by winning by 3 wickets. Australia collected 74 runs in the power play for two wickets and this power play run helped Australia to win. This time, Australia vs South Africa met three times in the semi-finals of the World Cup, but South Africa could not win even once. Congratulations to the Australian team for making it to the finals.
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November 16, 2023, 12:15:10 PM
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Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
The match is getting closer, at one moment it looked liked Australia will run away with the match scoring easily and once the spinners started to bowl, the match changed upside down, Australia already lost their 5th wicket and the only positive for Australia is that Steven Smith is still in the crease and they still need 73 runs to win and the match is getting interesting with the way the pitch is behaving Cheesy.

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But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Second semi finals, a bowling wicket and all the batsman are struggling and now the pitch is spinning a lot and not sure everyone expected South Africa to be in the final that easily as they always choke under pressure but now the match is getting interesting because the spinners are troubling the Aussies but they can just chip away easy singles and win the match.
South Africa managed to put a lot of pressure on Australia but unfortunately the amount of runs South Africa scored especially the target of 213 runs is not enough for a semi-final especially against a favorite team like Australia, this small target is not an issue. Moreover, if the pacers succeed in the same way as the spinners are succeeding in today's bowling pitch, something could have been different in this small target of Australia and South Africa today.
No one thought that South Africa would perform badly today.Today South Africa seemed to have played with pressure from the start which saw them bowled out for just 213 against Australia.213 runs is nothing for a team like Australia today Australia will win the match easily and they will face India in the final.South Africa have lost in the semi-finals many times before but their dream of reaching the final was not fulfilled again this time.
At the moment, Australia have collected 175 runs for 6 wickets.South Africa still have a chance to win if they bowl properly.
South Africa has shown a very good performance in this year's Cricket World Cup. But today's match was not expected to lose with Australia like that. Because this match with Australia was not very difficult for them. Australia now need only 20 runs but they still have 10 more in hand.  So it was said that Australia is going to lose South Africa very badly today. After winning today's match, Australia will move behind South Africa to the second position.
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November 16, 2023, 12:03:53 PM
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Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
The match is getting closer, at one moment it looked liked Australia will run away with the match scoring easily and once the spinners started to bowl, the match changed upside down, Australia already lost their 5th wicket and the only positive for Australia is that Steven Smith is still in the crease and they still need 73 runs to win and the match is getting interesting with the way the pitch is behaving Cheesy.

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But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Second semi finals, a bowling wicket and all the batsman are struggling and now the pitch is spinning a lot and not sure everyone expected South Africa to be in the final that easily as they always choke under pressure but now the match is getting interesting because the spinners are troubling the Aussies but they can just chip away easy singles and win the match.
South Africa managed to put a lot of pressure on Australia but unfortunately the amount of runs South Africa scored especially the target of 213 runs is not enough for a semi-final especially against a favorite team like Australia, this small target is not an issue. Moreover, if the pacers succeed in the same way as the spinners are succeeding in today's bowling pitch, something could have been different in this small target of Australia and South Africa today.
No one thought that South Africa would perform badly today.Today South Africa seemed to have played with pressure from the start which saw them bowled out for just 213 against Australia.213 runs is nothing for a team like Australia today Australia will win the match easily and they will face India in the final.South Africa have lost in the semi-finals many times before but their dream of reaching the final was not fulfilled again this time.
At the moment, Australia have collected 175 runs for 6 wickets.South Africa still have a chance to win if they bowl properly.
The current situation of the match is 190 runs of 6. We can see that Australia gonna win.23 runs needed in 66 balls . T Head played a great innings oi 62 runs in 48 balls and S.Smith played 30 runs in 62 balls. Both of they are hight runner of Australia batting innings in this math. Let's see what's hepoen.


Australia maybe selected for final and fight against India in final. Advance congratulations team Australia for final selection. See you in final agents favorite team India.
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November 16, 2023, 11:42:24 AM
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Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
The match is getting closer, at one moment it looked liked Australia will run away with the match scoring easily and once the spinners started to bowl, the match changed upside down, Australia already lost their 5th wicket and the only positive for Australia is that Steven Smith is still in the crease and they still need 73 runs to win and the match is getting interesting with the way the pitch is behaving Cheesy.

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But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Second semi finals, a bowling wicket and all the batsman are struggling and now the pitch is spinning a lot and not sure everyone expected South Africa to be in the final that easily as they always choke under pressure but now the match is getting interesting because the spinners are troubling the Aussies but they can just chip away easy singles and win the match.
South Africa managed to put a lot of pressure on Australia but unfortunately the amount of runs South Africa scored especially the target of 213 runs is not enough for a semi-final especially against a favorite team like Australia, this small target is not an issue. Moreover, if the pacers succeed in the same way as the spinners are succeeding in today's bowling pitch, something could have been different in this small target of Australia and South Africa today.
No one thought that South Africa would perform badly today.Today South Africa seemed to have played with pressure from the start which saw them bowled out for just 213 against Australia.213 runs is nothing for a team like Australia today Australia will win the match easily and they will face India in the final.South Africa have lost in the semi-finals many times before but their dream of reaching the final was not fulfilled again this time.
At the moment, Australia have collected 175 runs for 6 wickets.South Africa still have a chance to win if they bowl properly.
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November 16, 2023, 11:39:33 AM
Also, i don't think discussions about personal achievements are completely fair. The dude has scored more than half of his tons in chasing targets successfully and no other player comes close. The kind of consistency he provides in the ODI format is unmatchable so i believe fans should cut him some slack.

I don't disagree with you either. I know he is one of the best batters of all time. I know about his achievements and what he did. But I guess you got what I pointed out. I was talking about this particular match which is the Semi Final of the World Cup and what I believe is, that this is not the match where some one should play for their personal achievements.

I do not have any problem if he plays with 50-strike rate. I don't have any problem even if he plays with 50 strike rates in the World Cup Final too. But that does not look good when someone pick such match for personal achivement. You might have different point of view.
Well, Indian fans are biased for their cricketing heroes but they are not braindead for sure, i understand you used this as an example but still no matter how big a player is if he's playing with 50 or 70 SR in ODI then he'll face criticism, and for the right reasons. One example is see fans react to Kohli in the T-20 format, he faces criticism over his SR regularly but in the ODI virtually never.

Also, in the cricket field context matters, like in low scoring matches where every batter is shitting bricks. One batter scoring 80 odds runs with 50 SR is pure gold. On the other hand, if it's an absolute road then even 117 runs with 103 SR looks okayish (Kohli), not bad enough to attract any criticism but not as great as 105 runs with 150 SR (Iyer). 

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For a few moments it looked like we'd have some tight finish but now we are back to normalcy.

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Ah 1 more down, can we expect some twist?
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November 16, 2023, 11:15:50 AM
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Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
The match is getting closer, at one moment it looked liked Australia will run away with the match scoring easily and once the spinners started to bowl, the match changed upside down, Australia already lost their 5th wicket and the only positive for Australia is that Steven Smith is still in the crease and they still need 73 runs to win and the match is getting interesting with the way the pitch is behaving Cheesy.

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But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Second semi finals, a bowling wicket and all the batsman are struggling and now the pitch is spinning a lot and not sure everyone expected South Africa to be in the final that easily as they always choke under pressure but now the match is getting interesting because the spinners are troubling the Aussies but they can just chip away easy singles and win the match.
South Africa managed to put a lot of pressure on Australia but unfortunately the amount of runs South Africa scored especially the target of 213 runs is not enough for a semi-final especially against a favorite team like Australia, this small target is not an issue. Moreover, if the pacers succeed in the same way as the spinners are succeeding in today's bowling pitch, something could have been different in this small target of Australia and South Africa today.
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November 16, 2023, 11:12:53 AM
Proteas had one strength in this WC, batting first and outbat their opponent and putting them out of the game convincingly but here comes the knockout and they are back to their usual stuff of choking.

Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
Tabraiz Shamsi and kesev Maharaj struggling hard to save South Africa. But in the end, no one can say whether South Africa will be able to save the last. But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.

The match is almost won by Australia, if you see their team playing so just imagine the final of Australia vs India, and I can bet of thousand dollars that we are unable to see the South Africa vs India final.

Australia's current run rate is five and their required is just 2 runs in an over. Suddenly, Maxwell lost his wicket on one score. People had very hopes with him, now the South African has been charged after this big wicket, it’s a greater than greater wicket for South Africa, the team of South Africa back in the match after this wicket
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November 16, 2023, 11:01:52 AM
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Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
The match is getting closer, at one moment it looked liked Australia will run away with the match scoring easily and once the spinners started to bowl, the match changed upside down, Australia already lost their 5th wicket and the only positive for Australia is that Steven Smith is still in the crease and they still need 73 runs to win and the match is getting interesting with the way the pitch is behaving Cheesy.

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But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
Second semi finals, a bowling wicket and all the batsman are struggling and now the pitch is spinning a lot and not sure everyone expected South Africa to be in the final that easily as they always choke under pressure but now the match is getting interesting because the spinners are troubling the Aussies but they can just chip away easy singles and win the match.
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November 16, 2023, 11:00:14 AM
Proteas had one strength in this WC, batting first and outbat their opponent and putting them out of the game convincingly but here comes the knockout and they are back to their usual stuff of choking.

Dream run and tons of potential but looks like their journey ends tonight and seems to be a one sided victory for Australia, only a miracle or some ridiculous bowling spell could save the SA.
Tabraiz Shamsi and kesev Maharaj struggling hard to save South Africa. But in the end, no one can say whether South Africa will be able to save the last. But everyone expects South Africa to win the semi-final and become the champion with India. But why fate dealt so cruelly with South Africa no one can say.
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November 16, 2023, 10:54:48 AM

Since they could not work on the decision to bat after winning the toss, it is not unusual that many people now consider this decision as a wrong decision. But perhaps they have decided to bat to give them a big target like India gave to New Zealand in the last match. But they completely ruined the plan when they lost 3 of their wickets early. David Miller has given his best for the team under a lot of pressure. Expectation is always high from South African opener Quinton de Kock as the team did not get any support from his bat and the match may have been lost for the South African team. But if they had decided to bat later it might not have been such a picture. As they had strong batting line up.
Actually I think South Africa applied the strategy of their previous match against Australia. In the previous match, they defeated Australia by a huge margin of 134 runs on the Lucknow pitch. But in the field of Eden Garden, they could not do anything good with batting. The run rate could not be raised above 5 but wickets fell quickly even in slow batting. Now who knew that batting first against Australia in this match would not do well, but I don't think batting first and bowling first matter here, the point is their performance was poor today so they are heading for defeat.
Australia need just 80 more runs in 28 overs. Their current run rate is more than double the required run rate. Australia's current run is 133 and their four wickets have fallen. A little earlier Marnus Labuschagne got out with 18 runs off 31 balls. However Australia still have some strong players left Glenn Maxwell comes to the crease let's see how he performs today. At present, Australia should not play big shots and slowly go through the rest of the match with a cool head
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November 16, 2023, 10:30:53 AM
The South African captain won the toss and decided to bat first. But the South African batsmen were disoriented when they came to bat first and the team lost 4 wickets after 40 runs. Then Miller and Klaasen took the lead of the South African team and South Africa scored 212 runs with the bat of these two. Miller scored 101 runs from 116 balls Oklaasen scored 47 runs from 48 balls. Australian bowlers bowled brilliantly to bowl South Africa out for just 212 runs. It will not be difficult for Australia to score 213 runs and they win this match very easily will reach the final. I think Australia team can take one or two wickets to collect 213 runs.
It is crazy to dream of setting a target of 213 against Australia on a wicket where 350 plus runs are in doubt. Australia scored 100+ runs in the first 16 overs and they now need another 90+ runs to win.  
If South Africa lose today, the World Cup final match will be tough in 1 way because if South Africa beat Australia today to reach the final then they would never have been able to fight against India. As Australia will play the final against India, the final match will undoubtedly be a tough one for both the teams. As the outcome of the match is known, there is no point in wasting time watching the game.
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November 16, 2023, 10:22:43 AM
The South African captain won the toss and decided to bat first. But the South African batsmen were disoriented when they came to bat first and the team lost 4 wickets after 40 runs. Then Miller and Klaasen took the lead of the South African team and South Africa scored 212 runs with the bat of these two. Miller scored 101 runs from 116 balls Oklaasen scored 47 runs from 48 balls. Australian bowlers bowled brilliantly to bowl South Africa out for just 212 runs. It will not be difficult for Australia to score 213 runs and they win this match very easily will reach the final. I think Australia team can take one or two wickets to collect 213 runs.
Since they could not work on the decision to bat after winning the toss, it is not unusual that many people now consider this decision as a wrong decision. But perhaps they have decided to bat to give them a big target like India gave to New Zealand in the last match. But they completely ruined the plan when they lost 3 of their wickets early. David Miller has given his best for the team under a lot of pressure. Expectation is always high from South African opener Quinton de Kock as the team did not get any support from his bat and the match may have been lost for the South African team. But if they had decided to bat later it might not have been such a picture. As they had strong batting line up.
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November 16, 2023, 10:12:57 AM
Also, i don't think discussions about personal achievements are completely fair. The dude has scored more than half of his tons in chasing targets successfully and no other player comes close. The kind of consistency he provides in the ODI format is unmatchable so i believe fans should cut him some slack.

I don't disagree with you either. I know he is one of the best batters of all time. I know about his achievements and what he did. But I guess you got what I pointed out. I was talking about this particular match which is the Semi Final of the World Cup and what I believe is, that this is not the match where some one should play for their personal achievements.

I do not have any problem if he plays with 50-strike rate. I don't have any problem even if he plays with 50 strike rates in the World Cup Final too. But that does not look good when someone pick such match for personal achivement. You might have different point of view.
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