[Ice-Dice.com] Thread closed due to trolls

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Quote from: haightst on November 08, 2013, 08:38:53 PM

David Lee====>"In the chat, I said you could use it for that purpose, but I wouldn't recommend it because we keep a log of all transaction. You completely ignored the second part of my chat.

so you do log iP addys= that was my point!! Cool

GTFO P.I.G.!!!

Alright. I'm about done with you. Fuck off. Please. Take your legal action if you want. I'm waiting.

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David Lee====>"In the chat, I said you could use it for that purpose, but I wouldn't recommend it because we keep a log of all transaction. You completely ignored the second part of my chat.

so you do log iP addys= that was my point!! Cool

GTFO P.I.G.!!!

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Quote from: haightst on November 08, 2013, 06:18:49 PM

Quote from: icedicedavid on November 08, 2013, 04:32:52 PM

Quote from: haightst on November 08, 2013, 09:15:08 AM

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So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.

So do many, many other services. The thing is, when you send bitcoins to those services, it costs them more than that, as they will usually move the coins elsewhere.
There is also a huge danger in charging fees that can be lower than what bitcoind adds: attackers could absolutely ruin the site in a few hours by depositing and withdrawing right away.
Perhaps 0.0003 can be a average safe enough, but still, it's an immediate safety measure, until there are better ways of predicting fees or offsetting them with what the user made for the site.

you are leaving out the fact that David Lee had promoted his site as a DIRTY COIN MIXING SERVICE!!!! Roll Eyes

_?_this presents more problems imho

This is false. We don't recommend using our service as coin mixing at all since we log all transactions.

bullshit it's on the history of your chatbox !!! Or did you delete that?

In the chat, I said you could try to use it for that purpose, but I wouldn't recommend it because we keep a log of all transaction. You completely ignored the second part of my chat.

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Quote from: icedicedavid on November 08, 2013, 04:32:52 PM

Quote from: haightst on November 08, 2013, 09:15:08 AM

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Quote from: moderate on November 08, 2013, 12:33:55 AM

So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.

So do many, many other services. The thing is, when you send bitcoins to those services, it costs them more than that, as they will usually move the coins elsewhere.
There is also a huge danger in charging fees that can be lower than what bitcoind adds: attackers could absolutely ruin the site in a few hours by depositing and withdrawing right away.
Perhaps 0.0003 can be a average safe enough, but still, it's an immediate safety measure, until there are better ways of predicting fees or offsetting them with what the user made for the site.

you are leaving out the fact that David Lee had promoted his site as a DIRTY COIN MIXING SERVICE!!!! Roll Eyes

_?_this presents more problems imho

This is false. We don't recommend using our service as coin mixing at all since we log all transactions.

bullshit it's on the history of your chatbox !!! Or did you delete that?

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Quote from: haightst on November 08, 2013, 09:15:08 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: moderate on November 08, 2013, 12:33:55 AM

So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.

So do many, many other services. The thing is, when you send bitcoins to those services, it costs them more than that, as they will usually move the coins elsewhere.
There is also a huge danger in charging fees that can be lower than what bitcoind adds: attackers could absolutely ruin the site in a few hours by depositing and withdrawing right away.
Perhaps 0.0003 can be a average safe enough, but still, it's an immediate safety measure, until there are better ways of predicting fees or offsetting them with what the user made for the site.

you are leaving out the fact that David Lee had promoted his site as a DIRTY COIN MIXING SERVICE!!!! Roll Eyes

_?_this presents more problems imho

This is false. We don't recommend using our service as coin mixing at all since we log all transactions.

haightst

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Quote from: moderate on November 08, 2013, 12:33:55 AM

So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.

So do many, many other services. The thing is, when you send bitcoins to those services, it costs them more than that, as they will usually move the coins elsewhere.
There is also a huge danger in charging fees that can be lower than what bitcoind adds: attackers could absolutely ruin the site in a few hours by depositing and withdrawing right away.
Perhaps 0.0003 can be a average safe enough, but still, it's an immediate safety measure, until there are better ways of predicting fees or offsetting them with what the user made for the site.

you are leaving out the fact that David Lee had promoted his site as a DIRTY COIN MIXING SERVICE!!!! Roll Eyes

_?_this presents more problems imho

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Quote from: icedicedavid on November 08, 2013, 01:25:17 AM

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Why is such huge lie accepted here ? You say there is 0% investor commission, but in practice you pay only 50% of the profits (2% edge, only 1% edge paid to investors).

Can someone remedy that please ?

This is because the other 50% is paid to referrers who refer players with their referral link.

I've read that too. This doesn't change the fact that you charge 50% commission from the investors. If they left you, you would have no bankroll, and no players, and no one being referred. You are taking 50% from the investors, always, and that is your "0% fee".

I'm sorry that you seemed to be upset by the way we pay our investors. Currently our investors had made about 27BTC in profits and we have paid out almost 30BTC to referrers. Our investors had been happy with their returns and referrers are happy too. In fact, we used to be 1% edge with 10% commission, and it was a large investor who suggested us to change to our current scheme.

We don't charge 50% commission from the investor because the 50% referral bonus paid out to referrers. It would be different if we are to keep that 50% to ourself. Most investors on our site also shares referral links, which means they have the chance to get a portion of that other 50%. it's just split in a way that 50% to investors, 50% to referrers.

we don't believe you, and what's up with raising the cashout fee to .0005? You need to pay me what you owe me or just make moves outta here !! Roll Eyes

Also, Is there a way to download my bets history I wanna show everyone your cheating rolls!!!

We were losing money from cash outs before because many withdraw transactions would cost any where from 0.0001 to 0.0005 because of wallet defragmentation so we had to raise it to 0.0005.

Well.... that is another lie, or you don't know how this fee works. Can you include some of the recent withdrawals with this new supposed fee ? I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself, i.e. most of the transactions don't ever use more than 0.0002. This difference is used to fund those promotions you keep spamming with a new thread every fucking damn time.

Nop not a lie, I was recommended by other bitcoin developers to raise it to 0.0005. here is the thread that I asked for help with.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-do-you-know-how-much-transaction-fee-to-deduct-before-sending-the-payment-315842

Are you idiot or just pretending to not be able to read ? Did you even read your last reply in that post you just gave ? Here it is for you:

Let me try to lower it back to 0.0001 in my bitcoind

So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.

Most of the transaction mutliple KB, because of wallet fragmentation. see this for example: https://blockchain.info/tx/f15964762b001eee7350a4614c6357430bd0779a1b1af94784abcf0e73db2249

plus it was recommended by others to raise it to 0.0005.

You really like to reply with false information. I can only reply with the same correct information: you are not sending transactions with 0.0005 fee, instead you set it to 0.0001 per kb and the remaining amount is taken as a gift for you.

Nothing I said was false. Yes some transactions will be less than 0.0005, and we will net a few cents. It was recommended by other devs to cover the worse case scenario. and we state clearly that we will deduct 0.0005 on withdraw.

you cannot be trusted imho~ i'm glad i'm not the only voice of reason here! Roll Eyes