Topic: Ideas for improving post quality? - page 6. (Read 4887 times)

Are you a bot?

Signature is something that identifies a person, so I would have left it too. Just need to install fewer symbols so that a person does not waste time thinking.

How many users move from Member to Full Member each month? If it's thousands, it'll be a lot of work to vote.

Could topics which have the "no signature" feature enabled get a higher ranking on their respective board, to make up for getting less posts? Or, as an alternative: give these topics a color that stands out on the board.

Instead of a price in BTC, it could be some forum related perk. Maybe a permanent "Voted user of the month December 2017" in your profile?

Signature campaigns already exclude certain sections from payment, it's obvious they wouldn't pay for sections that don't display their signature.

The spammer would just make a longer post that's equally useless and takes longer to read.

I'd like a simple +/- to click on each post, but if this is anonymous, I'm afraid it will be abused from alt-accounts much more than the current trust system.

This is something the signature campaign manager should do. Instead of reviewing every user, how about only reviewing the campaign managers before they can manage a campaign?
I doubt anybody can really manage more than 100 posters simultaneously, which means they shouldn't take on more than they can manage.

Use this as a honey pot: after 6 months, ban everybody who posted there.

Yes. And I would have reported it, but given that you've seen it already, I didn't. Why didn't you delete it? He's banned already.
Here's another wall of random words from the same user. His post quality is exactly what this topic is about, and he doesn't even know it.

Great. More corrupt animal farm pigs considering themselves more equal than others and sticking green merit feathers in each others behinds. Exactly what this corrupt forum needs. [/sarcasm]

This one is the best possible solution, this condition will compel the users to improve their post quality to get promoted and obviously everyone want to rank up here so they will try to earn merit points by improving. And who don't want to win the BTC prize, this will motivate the users to get better everyday.

Is this possible that like merit points every user is rated (kind of feedback) by some highest rank members of the forum(i.e legendary) and only that user would able see his/her stats of rating which the other members have given to him/her. This will be like a feedback, if every user can receive the feedback of their posts quality monthly then then not all but many will try to improve.

Here we have another shitpost, precisely in a post about improving post quality. Do you think if this guy wasn’t wearing a signature, he would have posted here such a shit? I don’t think so.



After reading all comments on this post, one thing is clear to me: something about signatures has to be done. If removing signatures or sig ads globally has been ruled out, some other measures have to be taken, whether it be paying a fee, punishing lazy campaigns and their managers, and/or blacklisting their signatures, as hilariousetc suggested.

Although im still a jr member i also care for the good of the forum,I humbly suggest the following.

-ristrict the forum rules:

how about decreasing the rules from 1st offense to permanent ban for those who  posting a non quality post or copy pasting just to achieve the minimum amount of characters to be done.

-fees for rank ups:

i also suggest this for the farmers who abuses this forum just to earn,the higher the rank the higher the fees to be paid.and the fund that can be accumulated will be use for the next idea

-hire exterminator:

administrators,staffs or moderators are still human and need to rest though its not an easy task being in thier position so i suggest this one.hire exterminator to determine shitposter and non quality poster that only wants to add thier activities.kick or report to moderators .and as long the hired one is trustworthy and devoted to thier work also this cant be done with out idea 2.in this way not only the hired one can profit but also the higher ups who devoted from this org. and i salute for the hard work

hope i can help a little and not lead to mis understanding.

I don't think anyone said they are, but the sad reality of the situation is the forum has been overrun with mostly kids from third world countries who can barely speak English who are 99% only here to try to earn money.


Do you honestly expect users to report every single shitpost when the majority of the forum is shitposting? Most people have better things to do, but people shouldn't have to deal with or witness all the crap in the first place.


People would just abuse it and bot this. It would be easy just to have hundreds of spambots running that made the spam posts and another that instantly reported them. Sadly, whatever system you try to put in place here people will just find a way to game it.

I've read some posts from this thread, i will not summarize or give my opinion about other's opinion though i think that:

• having a fee to register here in the forum isn't fair
• having a minimum character per post isn't helpful
• post quality is a fuzzy thing here
• being from a third world country doesn't mean you are uneducated or some other things they have been called here

So i will give now my ideas to fight shitposting and spamming here in the forum:

• Why not taking advantage of Report to moderator? You can run a contest/campaign/-whatever you wanna call it- rewarding the most accurate people reporting spam/shitpost/-non legal- post. Rewards could be in crypto for the top ten. You could show below activity the Reporting points. You could also have the top worst poster that you could punish somehow.

Chance would be as fine thing.

Thread below was created by theymos two years ago nearly and despite me bringing up the issue in the Staff forum every so often, still absolutely nothing has been done:

Boards that don't contribute to activity


Nothing will likely be done about this either, and in the op he's already essentially shot down some of the main solutions to this. The only one he hasn't is punishing incompetent signature campaign managers by banning their accounts/trashing their threads which a while back he said he wasn't really keen on doing so we may as well get used to the fact that ICOs are going to keep paying people to shit all over the forum and the majority of posts here being two lines of nothingness by South East Asian shitposters by the likes of this guy below:


It's not the only way. They can purchase forums ads, but how convenient, it's not a good idea for you. Of course it isn't when you don't want your cash cow culled. And making people post 100 characters doesn't do anything but make shitposters stretch out posts longer, just like it does with you. Instead of a shitposter posting just 'Pepsi' in a thread called Pepsi vs Coke, they'll just post: "I like Pepsi because it's better than Cola. I like the way it tastes. It's very refreshing and fizzy. Yummy. It's good. I like the taste. Is this 100 characters yet? I hope so". Get my point? You are also a classic two line shitposter who's posts are all exactly two sentences just because for some reason you think two sentences is enough effort to not constitute being spam:



I've just been through your ENTIRE post history here and you haven't once made a post longer than two sentences. And why's that? Because you can't be bothered writing anything else nor do you need to when ICO campaigns will continue to pay you for this rubbish, and you clearly have absolutely no interest in contributing anything of value or substance here other than putting in the minimal amount of effort to earn your money and trying to not get yourself banned in the process. You can't even be bothered to hit the shift key to capitalise the start of your sentences most of the time; you just churn out a response as fast as you possibly can making sure that it's always two sentences. Your first posts here are even worse; just a few word posts in all spammy off topic threads that you clearly made to try rank up. I'm guessing you probably have multiple accounts churning out these two liners as well. Good thing for you admins never bother looking into you sorts of shitposters.

Short replies can be meaningful also. Like this one. It's not about quantity but about quality.

I don't know if the needed code to implement on the forum in order to realize the below ideas is just doable or not , but i'd certainly like if such features existed in order to decrease the number of shitty/one line/bumping/spammy/farming posters .

First , i think that signatures shouldn't apply to all posts done in a single day, in other words if you make X posts per day -> only Y (Y(*) quota of "signature applied" that they'll have to meet EACH DAY to get their posts done and be able to receive their payments (the same required number of posts by all the campaigns for each rank will certainly help define this quota ).

Secondly, impose a gap between every "signature applied" post thus people will have to invest more time to make these posts ( and hopefully they'll learn something since there's knowledge to grab in all forum's corners for those devoted enough .. )  .

(*) -> It'll certainly help against spammers /shit posters since they won't be able to make huge chunks of their needed posts in a single day due to the quota restriction (usually the last day of the sig's round ) , it'll make it easier for sig mangers to spot them , and at the same time it won't prevent people from doing as much posts as they'll want to such as hilariousetc  said :

Quote from: hilariousetc on December 19, 2017, 08:13:41 AM

Well I make more than 20 posts a week and I shouldn't be limited by this.

In consequence :
-> People will be obliged to respect and make the best use out of their "signature applied" quota and needed time between each of those posts .
-> Harder job for alts possessors, and they'll maybe really learn something ! Who knows?
-> Easier post quality checking .

Other features could be applied such as : each topic can only contain ONE "signature applied" post from each user -> spam threads won't be a problem anymore .. ,and whatever other useful features that can make a better place out of this forum   .

Removing signatures idea is not a good thing for me. there are so many people here in the forum that are wearing signatures globally also only the signature is the only one way to program owner to introduce their sales.

it is better to just have a minimum 100 characters posting here. that will solve the problem for me.

Posting is important when you participate in bitcoin campaigns. Make sure the article quality determines success in your campaign. Things to keep in mind when posting:
Write the right topic
Write on time
Ideas or creativity.

No not when their 100$ accounts gets banned for shitposting lol

Just imagine you make 10 accounts for 1000$ and get banned after 2 days for shitposting  

btw. we have 5 pages of discussion now, please add some input please @theymos.

this is what we wanted on this forum, a notication on our account when someone quoted our post, so there will be a decent conversation without wasting time scrolling/moving another page to find out if there's someone quoted/reply our post or not

You're right about me not wanting to pay if $100 was on the line. My campaign is paying me about $300 a month. Giving $100 upfront to be able to potentially get $300 if I keep posting throughout the month, not get a ban, negative trust, and the campaign doesn't shut down, is not the most lucrative deal, although I'm sure some people would go for it.
Enough with me. I said what I said because there are campaigns that pay people over $1000 a month and I'm pretty sure your $100 rule isn't going to hurt those people.
Can you start to see the problem? Set the fee at $20 a month, you'll only discourage members from joining those low paid campaigns. Set it at $100, the campaigns will be forced to increase the rates because people won't be willing to join them.
If you make the fees low, you'll only reduce low ranked spam and increase the market price of high ranks. Make them too high and you'll make the campaigns hero/legendary exclusive and make those accounts worth more on the market.
Setting fees will make the market adapt like it always does. It will make it harder to earn anything if you're completely broke, starting your forum career, are a low ranked member, or a member of a low paying campaign. What about the spam that comes from the accounts that are being leveled up for sale? How high should the fee be to be just for everyone?  

He should definitely hire extra people to take care of the account recovery demands. The queue of people wanting their account back is growing at exponential levels, two people can't take care of an huge community. By not delegating you end up creating a mess.

I don't see where the problem of trust is. The user that losses an account, signs a message from an address that belongs to the hacked or lost account in a post that's unedited or in a closed thread. This is all public for everyone to see, so there's no possibility of scam there, the person either controls the private key or doesn't. The person hired for the job would only need to verify the signature and then give access to the account to through the new requested email. The user recovers his account and stops cluttering the meta section, everyone is happy.

I would like to apply for that job myself. I run a safe node on a linux machine which I could use to verify all the signatures.

fee or not, as long as the spammers can still net a profit from shitposting with their 100 accounts every day, they'll continue to do so. there wouldn't be any incentive here to make better posts, since they'd pay a fee anyways. they'd make a bit less, sure, but that's not what the goal is here.

i realize that for this idea to actually work well in practice, there would have to be a lot of other additions, such as better quality control of users (which could just translate into more staff), which i could see as the biggest issue with this. it's not a great idea, but it's not the worst either. if the issue of users copy pasting posts could be handled in the first place, this idea might seem a bit more viable, but there isnt a sure way of combating that without a script in the site's server checking every submitted post for that (and this would consume way too much resources for it to be practical).

i dont like this idea much personally, but maybe maintaining a staff - approved sig campaign manager list could be an effective measure. this would require both additional work from the staff (and probably occasional, regular monitoring of these approved users) and the staff essentially having a small link to the campaigns, which i suspect is something theymos does not want at all, but it would eliminate most spammers from even  being allowed into campaigns. i realize this isnt a great idea, or one that might even be considered, but im just throwing ideas out there.

more so than post quality, i think one of the major issues that need to be addressed first is the copy pasting; if solved, it could weed out a lot of the shitposters, and possibly make the issue of low post quality easier to solve. we really do need more mods tho.

What about adding voluntary managers to the huge threads with +500 replies, the volunteers  should be able to lock certain threads, move others to trashcan leaving link to existing one, scalate certain accounts to be taken  over a review from the Staff.
I'm sure there are  old and trustwhorty members willing to help in their free time, I have no idea if Staff members get paid or work as volunteers but in any way whatsoever, if you need them to be more active you could give or add some extra BTC as reward.
This may look as simple but isn't at all, at least til staff and volunteers get used to it, this addition : coding some bots to  checking for spams, making private messages to these volunteers to review accounts and decide if scalte or not.

EDIT  : About given ideas I don't like any at all, but I have  simpathy on the idea of charging ICO's but to add other features like  create certain rules to avoid spammers and abusers upon they'r signup, likely creating a new subform only for ICO's, anyway  is simply a suggestion based in my time around.