Identifying alts using posted addresses - page 3.

Shimmiry

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Quote from: Vod on April 05, 2020, 02:00:51 AM

I see a lot of scam busters on here doing a great job tracking alt accounts.

How long do you think it will be before people start framing each other by posting addresses that are not theirs?

True, they are going to post an address that they control to get the coin. But if they don't really care about the airdrop (or whatever) they can just use an alt account to post the address of someone they don't like and both accounts are banned.

I guess I should take this opp to say I've never engaged in any activity here that required me to post an address for payment.

As far as I know there are programmers here and maybe they could somehow make a script that could search all users whom are active for 3 to 6 months and what bitcoin addresses are they posting in campaigns. The idea is to get all user posts that has the term "Bitcoin Address" and the 34 characters followed and if those characters (the wallet address) can be found on the forum with another user posted it. I knew it would be a hard program to make but it would be worth it for the management somehow.

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Yeah, it's can happen of many user, especially for newbie account.
All rank can join in bounties, it's why so easy to make new account and post other user address.

Quote from: Vod on April 05, 2020, 02:00:51 AM

True, they are going to post an address that they control to get the coin. But if they don't really care about the airdrop (or whatever) they can just use an alt account to post the address of someone they don't like and both accounts are banned.

I think it's why we have meta board to explain if he was never cheating a campaign or never create alt account.
If he get banned or red trust from DT user, but he didn't make a new thread about his banned account. It's clear he is agree if he cheating in this forum.

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Quote from: Lauda on April 05, 2020, 02:16:47 AM

How is it a hard call if it was almost always correct Huh

This does not make sense to me. You should exercise caution when evaluating, but you should also keep in mind its correctness. The average user being caught this was has no idea what they are doing let alone ways of evading.

I said earlier that I have not done the math yet so I can not come to a conclusion. I am also not invalidating your point of judgement. If my memory is not too bad then I have seen few cases where I could not make a clear call.

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Alternative identifications IMO for this case are:

- The language used, or the style of English (if they have never posted locally).
- Forum boards that they usually discuss (based on posts)
- Airdrop history followed by both accounts (based on post history).
- Original ERC20 balances from both accounts (based on the addresses of other wallets previously used).

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on April 05, 2020, 02:13:41 AM

Quote from: Lauda on April 05, 2020, 02:10:34 AM

In >95% of the cases that people were connected this way, they were actually connected. Are you saying such rates of accuracy are inadequate? Undecided

I never done the math percentage but unless there are some others facts and evidence is obvious then it's a hard call, at least for ms.

How is it a hard call if it was almost always correct Huh

This does not make sense to me. You should exercise caution when evaluating, but you should also keep in mind its correctness. The average user being caught this was has no idea what they are doing let alone ways of evading.

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Quote from: Lauda on April 05, 2020, 02:10:34 AM

In >95% of the cases that people were connected this way, they were actually connected. Are you saying such rates of accuracy are inadequate? Undecided

I never done the math percentage but unless there are some other facts and evidence is obvious then it's a hard call, at least for me.

That spreadsheet example is a good one.

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Quote from: Vod on April 05, 2020, 02:00:51 AM

How long do you think it will be before people start framing each other by posting addresses that are not theirs?

I believe such cases must have already happened. This is less of a problem than you think. If somebody enters some shitcoin bounty with my address, is anybody reasonable going to believe it was me? [1] The same goes for you and others. Most affected members would be other bounty spammers, sig. spammers on various levels. Behavioural analyses makes this less of a problem.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on April 05, 2020, 02:09:11 AM

Quote from: Vod on April 05, 2020, 02:00:51 AM

True, they are going to post an address that they control to get the coin. But if they don't really care about the airdrop (or whatever) they can just use an alt account to post the address of someone they don't like and both accounts are banned.

For this reason we can not say for sure that two or more accounts are connected just because same address posted from those accounts or someone quoted someone else's post which looks they were following up some comments. I have already seen few cases and my standing was pretty much looking to where these ends.

In >95% of the cases that people were connected this way, they were actually connected. Are you saying such rates of accuracy are inadequate? Undecided

[1] There was a case where a long time ago where Yahoo asked me linking me to some spreadsheet, I had no idea what the project was nor did I enter its airdrop.

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Quote from: Vod on April 05, 2020, 02:00:51 AM

True, they are going to post an address that they control to get the coin. But if they don't really care about the airdrop (or whatever) they can just use an alt account to post the address of someone they don't like and both accounts are banned.

For this reason we can not say for sure that two or more accounts are connected just because same address posted from those accounts or someone quoted someone else's post which looks they were following up some comments. I have already seen few cases and my standing was pretty much looking to where these ends.

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I see a lot of scam busters on here doing a great job tracking alt accounts.

How long do you think it will be before people start framing each other by posting addresses that are not theirs?

True, they are going to post an address that they control to get the coin. But if they don't really care about the airdrop (or whatever) they can just use an alt account to post the address of someone they don't like and both accounts are banned.

I guess I should take this opp to say I've never engaged in any activity here that required me to post an address for payment.

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