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legendary
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If you have enough Bitcoins to buy a house, you should wait until you can buy that house + keep at least half of your BTC in your wallet. Putting all of your BTC on real state wouldn't be a wise investment. It is crucial that every portfolio keeps some decent amount of BTC for at least 10 years to benefit from the future prince increases.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
It's not a road I'd particularly like to go down but if I did I'd be totally unemotional about it and buy slave boxes where the jobs are.

You don't need to be an asshole to be a landlord (I've been a tenant and a landlord myself many times).

If you want to have reasonable rental income and few hassles then you take the time to vet potential tenants and when you find a good one you look after them (i.e. repair things and keep them happy and don't raise the rent unreasonably).
legendary
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Welt Am Draht

With 0% interest becoming prevalent I don't know if sticking your fiat into an account is still such a good option.
 

True indeed but there were periods when she owned it when accounts were paying 6-7% where she lives. Even now you can still find 1-2% easily enough and I think even that pays more than that house probably did. It's not a road I'd particularly like to go down but if I did I'd be totally unemotional about it and buy slave boxes where the jobs are.
legendary
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Simplest way to secure your future is to buy two (or more) houses.

You rent out the other houses to pay for all your expenses for your primary house (it is not likely that rental return will ever be zero nor is it likely that rental return will be much less than the expenses needed to maintain an equivalent house).

Your only problem with multiple properties will be taxation (as eventually I think all governments are going to tax properties as things like "income tax" are going to become defunct in the future).

So even if you buy multiple houses - keep some BTC for the taxes!




My grandparents owns 3 houses in the province and lease them. So far it's been giving them a passive income aside from their pensions. Also, real estate and houses tend to increase their value over time, so I think we're good right now. It would be awesome if they can pay taxes in bitcoin. Cool
legendary
Activity: 1890
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
After deductions for capital gains, maintenance, asshole tenants and fees from the rental agency I think she would've done just as well or badly as sticking it in an account somewhere.

With 0% interest becoming prevalent I don't know if sticking your fiat into an account is still such a good option.
 
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
My dear old ma had a rental house bought many, many years ago. She went for something 'pretty' when she should've bought a bunch of studios and filled them with heroin addicts.

After deductions for capital gains, maintenance, asshole tenants and fees from the rental agency I think she would've done just as well or badly as sticking it in an account somewhere.
legendary
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Simplest way to secure your future is to buy two (or more) houses.

You rent out the other houses to pay for all your expenses for your primary house (it is not likely that rental return will ever be zero nor is it likely that rental return will be much less than the expenses needed to maintain an equivalent house).

Your only problem with multiple properties will be taxation (as eventually I think all governments are going to tax properties as things like "income tax" are going to become defunct in the future).

So even if you buy multiple houses - keep some BTC for the taxes!


My parents bought a second house after the housing bubble collapsed in 2008 and it seems to have been a very wise financial decision. As long as someone is living within your second property, you are earning a steady income, and if things get rough financially, you can always sell off the second house, or move into it if it is smaller and sell/rent the larger one.
legendary
Activity: 1890
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
Simplest way to secure your future is to buy two (or more) houses.

You rent out the other houses to pay for all your expenses for your primary house (it is not likely that rental return will ever be zero nor is it likely that rental return will be much less than the expenses needed to maintain an equivalent house).

Your only problem with multiple properties will be taxation (as eventually I think all governments are going to tax properties as things like "income tax" are going to become defunct in the future).

So even if you buy multiple houses - keep some BTC for the taxes!
legendary
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If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Ive been thinking if it went into very high figures i could cash out 80-90% of bitcoin and buy a house outright with no mortgage.  Is that even a good idea though? - basically 80% of networth in a house hmmm.  On the other hand i dont want to have a mortgage and im fed up with renting due to landlords, letting agents and lack of control.

Depends if you can maintain an estate after you paid for the house with all your money. Also, if we see bitcoin's price in 5 figures, I don't think you'll even need to convert to fiat.
legendary
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If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Ive been thinking if it went into very high figures i could cash out 80-90% of bitcoin and buy a house outright with no mortgage.  Is that even a good idea though? - basically 80% of networth in a house hmmm.  On the other hand i dont want to have a mortgage and im fed up with renting due to landlords, letting agents and lack of control.

Man when Bitcoin reaches these high value I swear you need to convert into fiat. You will be able to buy a house with Bitcoin!The seller will accept Bitcoin! Wink

Yeah i know but maybe not on this next bull run.  Lets say we hit $3k- $4k in the next few months which could happen i doubt everyone well accept bitcoins for houses. Some people will sure.



Bitcoin has risen $70, or roughly 30% recently, and is still $800 below it's all-time high bubble price. What makes you think that rising another 1500% to 3x the old bubble price is feasible?
hero member
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I think yes, houses are too valuable because of population boom. They will never make you lose money.
There is nothing as "too much houses to get" so I suggest you to buy a house.
legendary
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If someone would to sell for bitcoins and i need a house could be an option, but now i'm not thinking about investing in a house.

i would wait for bitcoin to increase even moreto buy an house, just to not spend everything on this house

1k at very least should do it, it's also depend on what house we are talking about....
hero member
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If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Ive been thinking if it went into very high figures i could cash out 80-90% of bitcoin and buy a house outright with no mortgage.  Is that even a good idea though? - basically 80% of networth in a house hmmm.  On the other hand i dont want to have a mortgage and im fed up with renting due to landlords, letting agents and lack of control.

Man when Bitcoin reaches these high value I swear you need to convert into fiat. You will be able to buy a house with Bitcoin!The seller will accept Bitcoin! Wink

Yeah i know but maybe not on this next bull run.  Lets say we hit $3k- $4k in the next few months which could happen i doubt everyone well accept bitcoins for houses. Some people will sure.



That's too much of a bull run even if we have the halving next year. Everyone would have sold before that comes that the price would come crashing back to where we are now.

@ontopic, why a house? A much better option would be something income generating - like a franchise.

or a trailer. Why spend so much on a house you cant even drive with you. You spend only 10% and buy supedooper trailer. And then you are like on vacations all teh tiem and you can visit many Bitcoin conventions every year.

Yes i have thought of that, there are disadvantages to a trailer though like depreciation and it might be a little more than 10% of what i had planned to spend on a house.   Being flexible is great though and travel.

You should. Buy an apartment in one of the biggest cities if possible and you're set. Unlike a house, you'll always be able to rent or sell it.

In some country apartment not really profitable than a house. Only try to buy apartment if you on big country or capital city.
Anyway, you should buy a house, apartment and if you can, build mini-apartment for rent.

I've lived in both detached houses, flats/apartments and they offer different benefits.  Apartments can come with noise from neighbours but are usually super cheap on bills - heating cheap if you live above ground floor, no maintaining a garden.

Detached houses are great for peace but expensive and time consuming.  Renting one really sucks when you find yourself having to keep the garden in shape and the dam garden isn't even yours ha. 
full member
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It's a good idea if bitcoin goes to that high. You'll be ridding yourself of the stress that comes from a mortgage, and the annoying scheduled payments, you'll be (kind of) free.

But if try to hoard as much as possible right now, so you'll pay less later.
Let's hope bitcoin hits the $1k mark again!

I always pray for that everynight.
At least btc must surpass $1200, so people not got so much loss. from fist 2014 until today.
legendary
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It's a good idea if bitcoin goes to that high. You'll be ridding yourself of the stress that comes from a mortgage, and the annoying scheduled payments, you'll be (kind of) free.

But if try to hoard as much as possible right now, so you'll pay less later.
Let's hope bitcoin hits the $1k mark again!
full member
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You should. Buy an apartment in one of the biggest cities if possible and you're set. Unlike a house, you'll always be able to rent or sell it.

In some country apartment not really profitable than a house. Only try to buy apartment if you on big country or capital city.
Anyway, you should buy a house, apartment and if you can, build mini-apartment for rent.
hero member
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I'd say do whatever you have to do to own a house, living on rent/mortgage is just a huge burden and if price becomes higher and you have a chance to sell your holdings in exchange for a self owned home, then I'd say go for it. And the money you save in future from no mortgage/rent on your head you can start to buy it back slowly.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht

It's a bad idea to have such a large % of your networth in a house.

Another housing bubble burst and you're broke.

It might feel good to own a house, but if your house is like 80%+ of your networth, don't do it.

If it's bought outright that addresses most of the issues. At the very worst you'd have to wait a few years for the ponzi to start again but you'll always have somewhere to live.

Personally I prefer to stay agile and don't really care where I live. I've lived in caves and on friend's floors. If I could afford somewhere with zero mortgage and still had plenty of money to spare that puts you far ahead of the vast amount of the population.
sr. member
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Most of the Bitcoin starters are not rich because they sold the Coins to early Wink
so be aware and keep it up until the PÖrice rises until the 500$ mar Wink

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lama-hunter
legendary
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If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Ive been thinking if it went into very high figures i could cash out 80-90% of bitcoin and buy a house outright with no mortgage.  Is that even a good idea though? - basically 80% of networth in a house hmmm.  On the other hand i dont want to have a mortgage and im fed up with renting due to landlords, letting agents and lack of control.

It's a bad idea to have such a large % of your networth in a house.

Another housing bubble burst and you're broke.

It might feel good to own a house, but if your house is like 80%+ of your networth, don't do it.
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