Topic: If core bitcoin community moved from Bitcointalk to Reddit then.. - page 2. (Read 566 times)

reddit already has a more advanced "merit system" and it had it for years! it is the voting system that all topics and comments have. it is more advanced because you can both upvote and downvote any post there instead of just upvote (giving merit) and also it has the ability to sort comments based on the most upvoted.

none of this has anything to do with going to reddit instead of bitcointalk though. i don't know what OP is talking about!

It is impossible to integrate all the functionalities of Bitcointalk to Reddit, including the Merit system, Activity, Ranking.etc. Moving to Reddit means that the old users who have been around for a while will lose their seniority.  The trust system will be in shambles. So I don't think that this is ever going to happen. Individual users or small groups may boycott Bitcointalk and move to Reddit, but the majority is going to stay here.

This forum will never just go away for the following reasons :

1. It is a treasure trove of information on Bitcoin
2. It contains original posts and discussions with Satoshi Nakamoto.
3. It is a good source of advertisement income for the stakeholders.
4. It provides for a platform where normal Bitcoin users can receive bitcoin for their contributions
5. It is very helpful resources for newbies.
6. It is a global platform, where people can interact in their own language and with their own people.
7. It is not a scam site.

Why would a brilliant resource like this, just die?  

I don't know why would anyone do that. Reddit isn't as near so good as this forum is. In fact, I think that bitcointalk is the best currently available place for Bitcoin community to share knowledge, information and experiences. Also it's very well moderated, administrated and maintained which is allso very important. So, I don't see any reason at all why would anyone choose reddit over bitcointalk.

Have you seen the number of users in this forum  , am not sure what exactly you mean by if 'core bitcoin community ' move to reddit because reddit and bitcointalk are totally different forum, there are a lot of activities to be engaged in on this forum so whether core bitcoin community move or not this forum will continue to exist and strong.

I think there is a big market that will always stay with Bitcointalk. Of course, there are other platforms where Bitcoin and cryptocurrency are also being talked about and this forum is not claiming exclusivity and in fact we should believe that the more the merrier. In case, people (especially developers) can be leaving this forum I am there can be some who are also coming. Only time can tell if OP's prediction can be coming true.

Actually Bitcointalk is so important, even Altcoins don't dare launch without an official Bitcointalk Announce thread. Next to it, Reddit is irrelevant, it doesn't matter if someone makes or not a subreddit of the specific altcoin.

Even if Bitcointalk was to be moved (perhaps because forum software change) it wouldn't go into Reddit in particular.

How you can think it will happen? Do you take own research?
What makes them think to choose Reddit? Is it better than Bitcointalk for the Bitcoin community?

Core Bitcoin community must consider many things before thinking to move to Reddit.
Bitcointalk already provided all things that Bitcoin communities need and with very easy access.
Moreover, it has been trusted for years and almost no big problems here.
So, I don't see big reasons for the core Bitcoin community to move to Reddit.

I find Reddit a piece of shit. It astonishes me that it's so popular considering how agonisingly unwieldy it is. I find it impossible to find half remembered posts from 12 hours ago sometimes, let alone years.

It feels like one of those things that's tolerated simply because it's been around for so long but if you proposed it today you'd get punched in the tits for the mediocrity of your proposal.

If the community ever really did go full Reddit I'd leave the community to it for good.

"If core bitcoin community moved from Bitcointalk to Reddit then.." it will result to chaos since Reddit cannot handle efficiently the total amount of information from bitcointalk since its creation. Moreover the idea of migrating all existing data from bitcointalk to reddit is ridiculous!

Define 'core Bitcoin community'.

If it means the old school hard core from the earliest of days I think they've gotten bored of here as it got taken over by Google translate morons in search of a pittance.

I can't say the quality of discourse on Reddit is all that much higher but the financial incentive at least isn't there.

The real communication about real work used to happen here, now it'll be on private or more exclusive channels.  

I think this forum will never stop! your approximations about this forum is  totally wrong! this platform is the best platform for know about crypto-currencies world and discussion about world of crypto-currencie.   

There are two separate matters here, that could have a common link between them, or not:

a) Is Bitcointalk less active overtime (i.e. as the article you referenced in the post I am responding to states)?

Well yes, that is pretty much true. The number of net posts created on Bitcointalk has decreased quite a lot since the beginning of 2018 (see https://public.tableau.com/shared/CM5PFFGQ2?:display_count=yes&:origin=viz_share_link), especially due ICO/Bounty coming to a stall with regards of what it was back then. With less ICOs, less bounties, and ATH being a distant mirage, many people have gone amiss from the forum, just in the same way they swarmed in when the tide was rising high. Things seem to be rather stable as of late in terms of monthly created net posts though; not decreasing as of late.

This is not an isolated feature, and since you referred to an article that looked at Google trends, let’s look at it from a broader perspective (i.e. 5 years instead on 1 year and comparing Bitcointalk with Bitcoin):

 
 
The two charts have quite a similarity. That is to say, as expected, sways to and from Bitcointalk are pretty much related to the sways on Bitcoin itself.

Note that Google trends is fine as a reference tool, but subject to some drawbacks:
-   It can, at times, be allegedly manipulated (see Google Trends went crazy for the Btc search).
-   It is based on the relative value of searches of a term vs all searched terms, and does not display absolute values (see re:Google Trends went crazy for the Btc search).


b) Is Bitcoin Community moving over to Reddit?

The stats I referenced (https://subredditstats.com/r/Bitcoin) show (scroll down the stat) that comments per day is receding pretty much over the past few months (except for July 2019 where it was pretty high for some reason). On the other hand, the subscriber cumulative chart shows a nice surge between 137k subscribers in 2019. Bitcointalk in the same period has 157K new accounts (see Statistics of user registrations on Bitcointalk 2017-2019). Granted that many of those Bitcointalk created accounts are twat-a-bot type accounts, but I cannot say what goes on on Reddit to compare this side-effect.

Now whether the r/Bitcoin is really gaining adepts from Bitcointalk, in a clear transfer of “core” contributors is something I do not know, and cannot really see referenced here numerically. Either way, I’m pretty sure both environment have posters and content of all sorts, good and bad, but it would be interesting to get some insights from people that are usual contributors on both r/Bitcoin and Bitcointalk to compare from a perceived quality point of view. For the time being, I have seen no objective proof to that effect.

Just the people who prefer btt

I don't think this is true. Surely, some of the earliest members left the forum, and I guess the majority of people active on the forum are earning money from signature campaigns/bounties or planning to do so. Still, though, even those who are somewhat working here can also be interested in discussing the topics. I, for one, like this forum, because if there's important news, someone will write about it here and offer to discuss. It's interesting to see what people think, what they believe and what they worry about. So in a sense, Bitcointalk has a strong and motivated community.

Your question is way too hypothetical, to answer it you need to know what made "core bitcoin community" move from this forum - was it abuse by administrations or DT, or the quality of conversations became too low, or maybe forum's technology is not up to modern expectations - there can be countless reasons, and they all determine who would be left on this forum.

Developers might not be discussing things here, but that is pretty normal nowdays. Usually those discussions go in their separate areas, such as a mailing list or a freenode dev channel. Some of them are here and even have global moderator status...

Incidentally i NEVER go to reddit for Bitcoin matters, tho i have an account and probably subscribed r/bitcoin or whatever. I don't think reddit is suitable for developing talk.

Bitcointalk dead? tell your "friend" to come and see...

there is no decline. i think some people sometimes over exaggerate things when it comes to this forum. like any other public forum, this place grew and that growth attracted all kinds of people. from people who were genuinely interested in bitcoin and learning more to trolls who are here to spam. the "earning" part might sometimes lead to more spammers but they usually are purged from the forum.

when you only focus on the spammers and negative part, of course it seems like there is a decline! but why not focus on the positive? as much as there is a growth in spammers, there is a growth in the number of experts that are around here with positive discussions too.

While some have left, I don't think everything is exclusively as you say, in fact, the forum has increased its quality since the merit system was implemented and this without taking into account that the forum has been since the beginning of Bitcoin and the Since the first publication of Satoshi, I know that some want to be protagonists, many forums and social networks that make the competition may arise, but the bitcointalk forum represents the story and that story is active, if some are gone, surely Take a look and review the topics here, you cannot replace the irreplaceable.

I can see on reddit only bch fans