If I'm Satoshi Nakamoto How do I prove it? - page 2.

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Even if Satoshi sold his entire lot of 1 million coins it would definitely not be enough to "crash" the markets.

I think it would. Satoshi deciding to sell off his Bitcoins would cause a massive hysteria in the crypto community. Headlines would be spun around it:
Has the founder lost faith in his creation?
Has the security of the founder been breached, how safe are your bitcoins then?
Bitcoin; a ship without a captain

The list goes on and on. The government would sponsor propaganda against it and there would be a massive crash. What I would be confident about is that Bitcoin would recover from it.

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Quote from: EFS on February 01, 2024, 11:01:01 PM

I believe Satoshi is long dead, his legacy will forever live.

That's what came in my mind, I believe only a few people who could be Satoshi Nakamoto are not alive anymore. Only one person who's still alive can be Satoshi Nakamoto but he totally rejects that he's Satoshi or he has created Bitcoin and that's why Satoshi won't reappear and anyone who claims 100's of times that he's Satoshi is just an impostor.

I also agree that even if someone signs a message from Satoshi's wallets I would also not trust that person. Satoshi is still alive in our heart and that's the best place for him I guess. Long live Satoshi in our hearts and in our emotions, you're a true genius and only genuine master of cryptography!

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No need to prove, he will appear just like he's disappeared on us through all these years, also why do we need to do this useless thing? Of speculating how he will come back and prove himself, I'm sure that it will come to light when the time is right. Let the old dogs sleep so soundly, I think that whatever purpose we think Satoshi serves, he's going to disagree on that and he's better off as figurehead than a spokesperson at this point, kind of like Jesus or Buddha, they've done their part of giving us the tools, it's now up to us how we will use it to further spread their message, at least that's what I believe this to be the similarity to the current dilemma of who's Satoshi and when will he come back, and wouldn't knowing right now how Satoshi will prove himself as the real deal a bad thing because we don't know if there's a false one that will try their best to pretend that they're that person and the proofs that they learn could be a potential tool for them fool a lot of us.

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First of all Satoshi doesn't need to go back and prove himself.
"Besides opening one of the wallets" no matter what you do I wouldn't believe you are Satoshi. Even if you could sign a message I still wouldn't believe it. You may have his keys but not his identity. I believe Satoshi is long dead, his legacy will forever live.

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Satoshi built Bitcoin for the 🌎, for the people. Look there are over 1 million digital assets and still growing. Even if Satoshi sold his entire lot of 1 million coins it would definitely not be enough to "crash" the markets.

It depends on how he went about selling them. He could certainly crash the price at least temporarily by placing a market sell for 1000s of BTC at a time. The fallout would be greater than your average whale manipulation as these are Satoshi's coins, after all. Everyone would be speculating that maybe he knew something that nobody else did.

Plus the moment his coins are moved, we're all gonna know about it. The price would likely drop before he ever got a chance to sell even 1 BTC.

Barring some major catastrophe - like a hidden backdoor in Bitcoin's cryptography - its true that the market would eventually absorb them and the normal price trajectory would resume, this time minus the unknowns imposed by Satoshi's Stash. It could take years, though. Who knows. With any luck these are dead coins and will never move.

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Quote from: Keawe on January 31, 2024, 07:26:11 PM

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I have come across a thread that this kind of question was asked too and after I read through the comments and opinions of other users, I just agreed with some of their opinion. One user said that Satoshi might be living an ancient lifestyle in a cool house where he doesn't use very modern and fancy tech device but with an old fashion desktop and he is not even concerned about his lost wallet address. He is only happy for the success of his creation. I feel convinced that satoshi is not coming out from where ever he is but even if he does, there could be few things that he will be asked to do to prove he is Satoshi, we can guess what those things are but might not be right about them too but what we must know is that, he was the one that created the technology, so he actually knows what he can do to create a problem.

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Quote from: Keawe on January 31, 2024, 07:26:11 PM

Besides opening one of the wallets.
Aside from just saying I am like Craig Wright.
Would an original Whitepaper doc be sufficient or do you think that there would still be critics? I know there would still be critics, Im just asking what do all of you folks think?
If Satoshi can produce such a document would it harm the value of BTC or increase said value?
I personally don't think it matters much, but I've never been the type to make a big deal of anything. If Satoshi was to come out of the darkness and into the light what would it matter?
Please refrain from any form of free speech that offends anyone on here. Lol BTC

Actually all of us here don't know what's really going onabout Satoshi nakamoto's life if he dead already or he is alive but didn't access this forum or else he is in the forum but still anonymous. There are a lot of questions came out to our mind but one thing for sure if Satoshi will came back here in this forum then Al out questioned will be answered. Anyways there's a chance that Satoshi will came back but we don't know when as we saw what other quoted above.

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Quote from: Keawe on January 31, 2024, 07:26:11 PM

Besides opening one of the wallets.

What do you mean by "besides opening one of the wallets"? Signing a message with one of the private keys is the most effective way to prove ownership and access to those keys.

Quote from: Keawe on January 31, 2024, 07:26:11 PM

Would an original Whitepaper doc be sufficient or do you think that there would still be critics?

Of course there would be skeptics. No one in their right mind would accept such evidence. How would you prove an "original whitepaper doc" anyway?

Quote from: kaka_Shipai on February 01, 2024, 07:38:19 AM

Well, if you are satoshi Nakamoto, then the first thing you can do is to send some donations to some accounts and crash the market, so that the price of Bitcoin can be lower.

That would be just plain stupid, wouldn't it?

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If you're satoshi nakamoto then you already know how to prove it and would never consider doing so as you took extreme precaution in hiding your identity.

A different perspective is that we are all satoshi, so there's really no need for anyone to have to prove anything. Well, unless you're Craig Wright who may seemingly become the only person in the world to be proven not to be satoshi nakamoto. Then besides the typical embarrassment, you also are the only human being who ever existed that cannot say you're satoshi nakamoto. Cheesy

For the rest of us, we are satoshi.

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If someone is Satoshi then he doesn't need to prove that he's Satoshi. Like Elon Musk doesn't needs to prove that he's Elon Musk even if he disappears for 10 years. During that time 100's of people can use Fake AI generated videos by claiming that they're Elon Musk but no one trust them, however when he reappears then he doesn't need to prove that he's the real Elon Musk.

Satoshi disappeared from the scene because that was good for him and for Bitcoin. If he really needed praise and fame then he would never disappear. His main motive was to create a currency that anyone can use without any restrictions and he created that currency, and when he knew that the currency he built got active users then instead of getting followers and fans, he chose to disappear so community can use the project without any fear.

Those who claim to be Satoshi are always fake ones because real Satoshi will never do that. If he needs to reappear then he will reappear and trust me when he gets active then people will consider him mighty. Satoshi is here in the form of Bitcoin just feel his presence because he gave us a coin that's so precious and more valuable than Gold.

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Quote from: kaka_Shipai on February 01, 2024, 07:38:19 AM

Well, if you are satoshi Nakamoto, then the first thing you can do is to send some donations to some accounts and crash the market, so that the price of Bitcoin can be lower. This way everyone will know that the driver of the Satoshi's account is back and everyone will start believing you.

Why would he do such a thing? A sane person can’t do that and he can’t be that type of person. What will he prove by altering the movement of the market. There are other ways he can prove that he is Satoshi without having to intentionally influencing the market price. Signing a message with his PGP key is amongst many others to prove his identity here in the forum. Satoshi doesn’t need to prove himself to the world once he’s back, everything will be so obvious that you don’t need to be told that this is Satoshi.

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Quote from: kaka_Shipai on February 01, 2024, 07:38:19 AM

Well, if you are satoshi Nakamoto, then the first thing you can do is to send some donations to some accounts and crash the market, so that the price of Bitcoin can be lower. This way everyone will know that the driver of the Satoshi's account is back and everyone will start believing you.

This is the last thing a responsible person will do.
According to research, LiteCoin is still suffering from the silly move of Charlie and has lost its rank as Bitcoin Silver till today.
The only way Satoshi can prove himself to be real Satoshi Nakamoto is by writing a Bitcoin signed message from the Exodus wallet not crashing the market.

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If satoshi come back on this forum, then I don't think he needs to activate his main account again. He's not coming back to be known because he's already famous, but if he does come back, maybe there's something that needs to be worked out. We never even know for sure whether satoshi is around us, perhaps some people have interacted with it without realizing that it is satoshi. Who knows?

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If Satoshi was to come out of the darkness and into the light what would it matter?

Experts might catch him and take his DNA so they know who else is in his bloodline, or something else that would likely be detrimental for satoshi.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on February 01, 2024, 08:52:40 AM

It's an easy and easiest problem for Satoshi to prove himself here.
1. Satoshi has an account here: https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Satoshi, By activating the account, 90% of people here already believe that it is Satoshi.
2. Satoshi has access to this Forum in all areas, with him deactivating certain discussion boards and moving, eliminating some of the topics here, everyone here already believes it is Satoshi.
3. By creating several new discussion boards, it will be even more certain that Satoshi is real.

You are missing many points.

Satoshi Namamoto left the forum since 2010 and over the years, the forum head administrator was changed from sirius to theymos. Satoshi Nakamoto no longer has access to forum domain, forum administration and his account was even locked by theymos.

He can come back, can get his account back but must sign a message with his PGP key, to prove that he is actual Satoshi Nakamoto. If he succeeds, theymos will unlock his account and maybe he will become a head administrator again.

Before that, he can not do any of three aformentioned points.

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Quote from: Keawe on January 31, 2024, 07:26:11 PM

If I'm Satoshi Nakamoto How do I prove it?

It's an easy and easiest problem for Satoshi to prove himself here.
1. Satoshi has an account here: https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Satoshi, By activating the account, 90% of people here already believe that it is Satoshi.
2. Satoshi has access to this Forum in all areas, with him deactivating certain discussion boards and moving, eliminating some of the topics here, everyone here already believes it is Satoshi.
3. By creating several new discussion boards, it will be even more certain that Satoshi is real.

It wasn't difficult for Satoshi to prove himself here and it wasn't a difficult thing to do, but I don't think that will happen again, even if it did happen, it would make the world uproar, especially in the crypto market.
Satoshi, actually made himself like Bitcoin, anonymous, rarely remembering his creation.

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Well, if you are satoshi Nakamoto, then the first thing you can do is to send some donations to some accounts and crash the market, so that the price of Bitcoin can be lower. This way everyone will know that the driver of the Satoshi's account is back and everyone will start believing you.

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Let us say for a moment for pure speculation ofcourse, that Satoshi was very young when he created BTC. So young that statistically speaking his brain wasn't even fully developed when he first deployed BTC. The human mind isn't fully developed until the age of 25 for most males.

So what? He wouldn't be the first inventor to invent something revolutionary at a very young age.

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Let us say for a moment for pure speculation ofcourse, that Satoshi was very young when he created BTC. So young that statistically speaking his brain wasn't even fully developed when he first deployed BTC. The human mind isn't fully developed until the age of 25 for most males.

I think you are fantasizing too much about some things that no one can prove anyway. It's completely nonsensical that you claim that Satoshi Nakamoto was genius enough to create Bitcoin, and that he didn't have a sufficiently developed brain to understand that it didn't need to disappear in order for Bitcoin to be what it is today?

You also assume that Satoshi was male, and what if he was actually female?

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Usually, nothing is as it seems, and if the person or persons behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto had a plan (and it is very likely) then the goal of that plan was to convince us of something completely opposite to what is considered the truth today. In his last messages, Satoshi stated anyway that he was leaving Bitcoin in good hands and that he would deal with other things, and he must have done a lot that we certainly cannot attribute to him. However, I don't believe that he has ever made or will make something that will be more successful than Bitcoin.

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Quote from: ABCbits on February 01, 2024, 04:39:22 AM

FYI some people believe real Satoshi wouldn't return and would assume anyone who claim as Satoshi as fake.

We are all Satoshi by using Bitcoin for transactions and satoshi (the smallest unit of Bitcoin) for transaction fee.

Quote from: Keawe on January 31, 2024, 07:26:11 PM

No. But rather than critic, there would be many disbelief and skepticism. faketoshi CSW attempt to forge several document/file (which found out by government) which makes people more careful against such proof.

Craig Wright made many attempts to convince people that he is Satoshi Nakamoto but failed.

Craig Wright as Satoshi Nakamoto: What is The Truth About the Bitcoin Founder?
Craig Wright’s ‘Lies and Deception’ Justify Minimal Damages Claim, UK Judges Say
How Many Wrongs Make a Wright?
Craig Wright's Copyright Claim
Copy of e-files correspondence.

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