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Quote from: |MINER| on March 03, 2024, 03:26:33 AM

Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

No I don't think it's not possible to human lives life peacefully on this earth with out no government or no laws. If there is no government or ruler to control a population then the people will take the law into their own hands which will result in one group killing another group or one person killing another person freely. I think if this happens, the world will be more chaotic. Moreover, in the current situation in which the world has come, it is impossible to think about the future without the government.

I'm not in doubt but do you realize that the chaos, crisis and insecurities we experiences in the World today can either be surged to minimize it not possibly to be put to an end but it's being impossible due to the fact that this same government sets the rules are the ones who also cross carpets the laws. The crisis we faces today's are the architects by the same governments that is supposed to o lear, guide and be there for us taking humans welfares a priority but instead of that, they converts these their duties to more money to their accounts and gaining more powers of authorities while humans are collapsing.
I'm not in doubt that having a government is not necessary but they're deviating from their supposed to be primarily aims while in their leadership positions.

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Quote from: |MINER| on March 03, 2024, 03:26:33 AM

Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

No I don't think it's not possible to human lives life peacefully on this earth with out no government or no laws. If there is no government or ruler to control a population then the people will take the law into their own hands which will result in one group killing another group or one person killing another person freely. I think if this happens, the world will be more chaotic. Moreover, in the current situation in which the world has come, it is impossible to think about the future without the government.

Maybe the world would be more interesting to live on because the government is making life hard for many of us.
There should be law but not government to carry out some unreasonable actions. I think I'm people living in the past most have enjoyed there lifetime compared to us that has government in charge of everything we are going.
The government is not longer helping the start of mind and they are always after collecting tax and making life miserable.

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Quote from: |MINER| on March 03, 2024, 03:26:33 AM

Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

No I don't think it's not possible to human lives life peacefully on this earth with out no government or no laws. If there is no government or ruler to control a population then the people will take the law into their own hands which will result in one group killing another group or one person killing another person freely. I think if this happens, the world will be more chaotic. Moreover, in the current situation in which the world has come, it is impossible to think about the future without the government.

I think Op needs to read about Thomos Hobbes works about the State of Nature how life was solitary, brutish, and short as a result of lawlessness of the then society before the emergence of states serving as the sovereign for the protection of human lives and property.

With how I have seen life become in this present day despite a government in place with all legitimacy of coercion against all acts of lawlessness yet society is still proven to be dangerous then how much more when a State cease to exist. I don't wanna imagine living in such society now.

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

No I don't think it's not possible to human lives life peacefully on this earth with out no government or no laws. If there is no government or ruler to control a population then the people will take the law into their own hands which will result in one group killing another group or one person killing another person freely. I think if this happens, the world will be more chaotic. Moreover, in the current situation in which the world has come, it is impossible to think about the future without the government.

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I have also thought about this countless times, the world would have been such a mess without rules and people who make sure it's been obeyed. Regardless of how corrupt the government and politics are, I'll still be happy that they exist and they are trying their best

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Quote from: Miles2006 on March 02, 2024, 07:18:02 PM

follow the law and standard, I don't care to know who made those laws
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Law is very simple, every Human is equal by law. A equal can never tell another equal what to do without breaking the law.
Law is not something what can be made, it is set in Stone.
Company policy is not law, it is just that, company policy and nothing else.

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 20, 2024, 12:09:21 PM

Quote from: Miles2006 on February 20, 2024, 09:32:35 AM

Let's imagine a society without government rule and laws, everyone will be so free to some extend. Sometimes we humans use our freedom carelessly without thinking twice and it can hurt other feelings or rather it can lead to fighting or conflicts, every rule has a purpose and every leader today is set to guide the standard of the society so any society lacking a good government will face crisis and without a government the society cannot move forward.

Well, I would be ignorant towards your opinion @Miles2006. I Know the government has a governance role of conductive role in the societies so as to implement laws that would guide the people and cautions everyone towards their behaviors while others emotions should also respected in other to comfortably live in the societies.
But do we ever thought about how the world or lives had been before the minds got corrupted which calls for the discovery of governments? Because I bet there has been living before governance was formed.

Government rule or not we ought to follow the law and standard, I don't care to know who made those laws but definitely every society must set a guide and standard. Let's use the forum as an example, the forum has different law and guide and if anyone goes against the law you will have to face a penalty likewise the bodies incharge of making the law like the staffs should be address as the government bodies. When talking about government we don't necessary mean the state and politicians, I get your point op but the society can't do without the government bodies.

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It would be chaos but it's going to be a fun one also, I think humans have the survival instinct of sticking together so I do believe in the possibility that they're going to be eventually forming their own community that has it's own government, that's definitely what's going to happen and even we do enjoy anarchy for awhile, there's definitely people out there that's going to crave the need for government if not the need to have power and influence over a group of people and let them do your bidding, I mean look at it this way, there's no nomad or wandering nations in the modern times because everyone decided to settle and with settlement comes the need for order and order needs to be maintained and the only way that it can be maintained is by having a government, I don't believe that people can do some form of self-governance to check on themselves and police others independently, we need organization.

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Quote from: Tmoonz on February 27, 2024, 09:18:51 AM

Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

No, we can't have a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws, the reason is that many will definitely behave the way they like and there will be no penalties, it is not even an easy thing for humans to live peacefully with a governing body let living without laws and government. So having a governing body reduces crimes and so many illegal activities.

If we can just be relatable and get the clear picture of how flock of sheep can behave when not guided by a shepherd, yes they have freedom to do whatever they like but very prone to being harmed unlike when they have people who watches and direct them for their own benefits and safety, same way we as citizens requires the government to direct the affairs.

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 27, 2024, 12:47:26 PM

Quote from: montaga on February 26, 2024, 03:57:03 AM

Lions will prevail

Why not the aliens?

You mean interdimensional, or you mean someone is flying from some place and than manages to crash here?

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Quote from: montaga on February 26, 2024, 03:57:03 AM

Lions will prevail

The life is already a jungle and tough enough humans of now are more than the lions.
Why not the aliens? It could be fitted with some kind of unbelievable creatures like that because we already have the animals potentials.

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

No, we can't have a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws, the reason is that many will definitely behave the way they like and there will be no penalties, it is not even an easy thing for humans to live peacefully with a governing body let living without laws and government. So having a governing body reduces crimes and so many illegal activities.

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Lions will prevail
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Quote from: Boy_chef on February 24, 2024, 06:59:40 PM

Truth is I have never imagined a world with any governments or structures to govern a group of people. It would be a world without laws, no authority or governing body,that people need to abide by to live. The obvious effect of this lawlessness would be a state of anarchy. Which is associated with chaos. As there would be no system in place to enforce laws and maintain order among individuals. It would be world without discipline. People may live like animals ruled by the desire or appetite whether good or evil

Did you get think the earlier formations or the discovery of government was as a result that the existence of human has no directive and so they needed some bodies to lead them so that everything could being accordance?
Or you don't also think the government was a set of dubious formation not just to rule the people but to oppress them?
It takes only a wisdom leader in a government to diligently carry on its task for the wellness of the societies without being governing according to its own self interest.
To the world today, instead of the government being for the people, the government is now for the man and to whom is in charge of governance.
I am in support that the government as an institution is formed via the constitution but the system has been corrupted so, the government has got no good to offer again instead they are the once masterminding and causing crisis of economy and crisis to lost of lives and properties. Infact, they are useless only that there still existence lives some threats to the misbehavioural humans to be the least concious to lives.

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

I would rather not imagine such a scinarior to be honest. The way human are designed, we cant function well without some sense of direction and chaos, war and killing will be too high if thier is not an authority to guide us. Have you seen a child whose parent had died before he even grew up, and and had no relative to curb his excesses? it's always a divastating journey for him becasue he has no one to literally direct and guide him alright and at some stage he feels that he can do anything that comes to his mind because he is accountable to no one. Even with the leaders and security agencies together with the laws and harsh punishment that surounds us, any slight opportunity people have to do things the way that please the you see a high level of misconduct af you eat to imagine what would happen if we have no leaders in this world to guide us?

Some things are better left as mere imagination.

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

I look at the chaos without control from the legal system, don't just look at the negative issues of the management system because in reality we also see the operation of the executive apparatus to help citizens of a country with a clear and consistent development direction with general change.

The assumption that the OP brought up makes me think about a life where people can get along with each other, but when social prejudices have been built up over time, many problems cannot be changed, but the conflict between us will still exist without law, freedom reaching the threshold of chaos will only bring an atmosphere of conflict.

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

It's impossible for humans to create a world with no government because humans are social animals. Anarchy is impossible because humans understand that no one is strong enough alone and we need to form new connections and create groups in order to gain advantage over others. It's impossible to stop this process of creating groups and defeating each-other, finally, someone has to gain power others, a one particular group, that's how our society and nature works. Otherwise, it's impossible to happen. Anarchy can't last long, that's guaranteed!

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Quote from: AVE5 on February 13, 2024, 02:07:18 AM

At some points, I wonder how the world would be without a governance, I don't care to know about histories of how politics and government has been in existence before these days.
My interest is ... Could we (humans) had lived a peaceful soul here on earth without a governing body and no laws?

A place without a law is a place without a sin. We need to know what we are doing so that we don't end up creating problems for ourselves that is why we keep seeing different laws so that people can keep doing the right thing without going to further claiming that they are not aware of the law. We need to make use of the opportunity we have if we are in a region that do not have too much strict laws by doing the right things and what we ought to do without anyone forcing us to do it.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 23, 2024, 06:14:59 PM

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I totally disagree, we are all born human but some of us may or may not, will or
will not succumb to greed, hatred and jealousy for example, some people will
have greater goals, desires and ambitions than others and some will do whatever it takes
to reach them, others would be content with what they have.

I know the OP didnt want history lessons but I will say that even with governments
and laws us humans throughout time have been killing each other anyway, do you
think it would be better without governments and laws?

Everyone differs from one another, and we don't really know what exactly the intentions behind someone's actions are until we see their true face in situations that tear their mask faces. Governments and so called politicians really made this world shit but at least we have rules and some kind of security if someone commits crimes otherwise the world will be chaos and we will see everyone just fighting with each other for their needs.

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