Topic: If there was no government to govern us (humans) - page 6. (Read 1181 times)

I don't think their  have been a time people live in this world without a goverment,  it might not be the kind of government we have this time.  But I think their have been leadership existing for a very long time,  I think the world will be a dangerous place to live without government or leadership.  Just take example,  when you go to places, like the ghetto area where government don't really care about. Everyone living their wants to be their own government.

One of the argument of scholars is that human nature is naturally evil.  When you have a child, you always need to teach the child to be good to do good.  However, you cannot teach a child to be bad, the child will naturally learn to break the law on his/her own.  Hence, without any law that will guide us, human will just do their own biddings and let their desires be unleashed without limits.  These can cause conflict, chaos, (or worse), extinction.

With a government and laws, there will be crimes and when there are no crimes everything is allowed. A world like that will see humans be worse than savages. The world would still be in a stone age because nobody would be thinking about inventing anything when they can be killed the next minute and their wives or children be taken as slaves or whatever.

Murder wouldn't be a crime, rape won't be a crime. The whole world would be in chaos because it would be a literal kill-or-be-killed situation. Anarchy never works anywhere.
See how fucked up the world is, so much killing and crimes being committed, now imagine there were no laws and government to fight these criminals, there would be no point giving birth to children in a world like that. So it's just not possible.

What you have are trying to ask is something which is not possible as there would always be some governance or rules which will laid on by a leader, elderly family members or even head of tribe but not necessarily in th form of government else the world will be messed up place of everyone decides to do whatever they think is right as there has to be alignment on do's and don'ts as even those rarest tribes who have no access or idea about technology have a leader and commands to follow. Without governance everything will fall like stack of cards.

Well, I would be ignorant towards your opinion @Miles2006. I Know the government has a governance role of conductive role in the societies so as to implement laws that would guide the people and cautions everyone towards their behaviors while others emotions should also respected in other to comfortably live in the societies.
But do we ever thought about how the world or lives had been before the minds got corrupted which calls for the discovery of governments? Because I bet there has been living before governance was formed.

Let's imagine a society without government rule and laws, everyone will be so free to some extend. Sometimes we humans use our freedom carelessly without thinking twice and it can hurt other feelings or rather it can lead to fighting or conflicts, every rule has a purpose and every leader today is set to guide the standard of the society so any society lacking a good government will face crisis and without a government the society cannot move forward.

The reverse question is with the laws so far, how has the human population being better and coexisting peacefully?

I don't know if to us whether laws have helped for a better living or if living in the state of nature like Thomas Hobbes described would have been better. 

So in recent times in the history of human from the first world war to now, war, enemity , boundary tussle, succession, banditry, terrorism and other forms of unrest have not seized to befall the human society yet we have laws and guiding principles that was suppose to make the place peaceful and habitable. So I don't really think government have done much in the opportunity they have to have more organized nature for mankind. Just if they could try more to unite the people but they are already interested parties in different blocs and how will the laws work in the midst of interest.

In clearance of my doubts, I chooses to air my burdens even though they may sound nonsensical to some person's. I believe expressions is also a method of learning.
So, after much lot of us here has said there would be no better World without governance, I believe this mentality is installed as a fact that the rules of governance has already been existing because we were here on earth but otherwise, don't we think this same governance was formed my some individuals? Even those days, how was the State of living?
In the other hand of doubt, how would the world had been without money? Would wouldn't there had been alternative means for exchanges? I guess all these a human inventions meaning there had been living before they were invented.
I not to dispute any opinions here as long as I want to be cleared of doubts, all opinions counts.

The world will be full of confusion and there will be catastrophes happening around the world.

The world we live in is a global village, and not having a governing body(leader) to rule it, will make everyone live without any direction and purpose, which will not help in the growth of society or country.

Having a leader in people's lives means that there is direction and purpose in their lives. Take for instance, animals that have no common sense have a leader, not to mention we humans who are created in the image of God not have a leader. Who then are we to follow or listen to, if everyone decides not to have a leader in their life?

In what way will that be achievable? We are aware that anything is conceivable. However, it will be extremely difficult for this to occur; in a world without leaders or governors, a lot of things will. Everyone will oppose it because they believe that no one will question them or take them into custody even if they report a crime. Let me seek for an example concerning this forum. How will like this forum where all in today, presuming we don't have somebody who is in charge of us and have guided us in the correct direction?

However, it will be unfortunately not support the way things are going today, I don't think they can get much better because everyone will probably do what they want. There will be no more peace in the entire planet if there is no single leadership in this world. Because of this, members of any society, regardless of size, tend to select a leader who can guide them toward avoiding conflict or dispersing the group.

If we consider the concept of a world without a governing body, an analogy can be drawn from the current global political stage. Each state or nation on Earth could be seen as akin to an individual human. These entities interact with each other, forming alliances, establishing trade agreements, and occasionally engaging in conflicts, all without a central authority presiding over all of them.

This bird's eye view of how nations maintain diplomacy, trade, and communication, despite cultural, linguistic, and ideological differences, offers insights into the interactions of these already ungoverned entities.

Have you ever done anything successfully in your life without following basic rules and guidelines? Personally, I never did, and I have never seen anyone doing. I believe human beings seek for self-realization, welfare, peace of mind and spirit, and these goals can't be achieved inside states of chaos, which is characterized by the absence of organization, which implies there aren't rules, although even the chaos is constantly treading a path towards something organized we call order, which is inevitably reached at some point.

One example are the revolutions aimed to destabilize current societies' models to introduce a new set of rules and laws. These revolutions are executed through chaos, absence of moral standards and rules, but their goals isn't to remain on this state of instability forever, rather their goal is to reach a new state of order, where a new model of society will be defined.

And even if you tried to impose a continuous state of chaos, an Anarchy, a major force would suppress your movement at some point by imposing a new order which would have to be followed by everyone, including you, otherwise punishments would be used against the rebels until all of them were disciplined or annihilated. Order is always achieved through force or through moral values, depending how civilized and evolved a society is.

Humans naturally want to conquer their environment so they can get what they need or desire. But, the human's activity in his environment will become a problem to the next person if there are no limitations to the extent they can go just to satisfy their desire. This is where the government comes in to ensure that scarce resources are distributed equitably. We all know that if there are no rules and regulations, one person out of greed will want to gather lots of resources to himself without considering the next person.

The absence of government will also mean absence of laws, rules and regulations. A person can terrorize the next person or the whole town and go scot free because he knows their is no government institution available to punish him. Just imagine a world without laws, chaos will be the order of the day.

We know that even with governments available,  some societies still suffer lawlessness and other criminal vices, it will really be terrible if there were no governments at all to monitor the activities of the people.

There is no perfect way to get your answer without being refer to history. But can you tell us how peaceful we are living now despite having government? You can imagine us living without government and all you could be seeing is anarchy here and there on a daily basis. I will recommend you to read this John Locke book "second treatise of government" and focus on where he discussed about state of nature. After you finish reading, you will probably be grateful that we have government in place now despite it's not functioning properly as required of them but at least, it's better than living without none because nothing like peaceful existence without authority.

Living without a governing body & laws would not be good, it’d lead to difficulties keeping peace & order. Governments & law provide structure that helps regulate societal behaviour, resolve conflicts & protect individual rights. Without these institutions there would be a high risk of chaos, inequality & exploitation. It’s possible to imagine a world where humans could coexist peacefully without a formal governing body but it’s unlikely to be sustainable in the long run. A system of governance helps ensure stability, justice & the well being of society.

It would not be possible, if there was not government tomorrow our civilization would not last a week. The countries around the world would get embraced by chaos and anarchy.
There are already many communities which have it very hard when comes to handling crime and keeping people safe, while having one of the most effective and well funded police a superpower can have, if there is no government then there is no military nor police, criminals will go unpunished and if criminals go unpunished then all of us would need to take care of our own security and safety by our own hands.

Even within Christianity people talk about the government of God after the final day comes, you know, because we as human beings, we need to have some structure of command for us to have our rights and duties clear, even in Christianity that applies to God himself, to govern over all of us.
Utopia is not possible to be reached as you picture it as long as human beings have a gram of selfishness and evil in their hearts.

The world will not be the way it is today if there is no leader that is leading either a family, group, or country at large. It is very unfortunate that you think about this or even ask something like this that you actually know is impossible if there is no leader in place. How does that place normally look? I believe that the place will be uncontrolled. Nobody will talk to another person. Everybody will be doing what they like, whether the bad or the good. Just search for this forum. If there is no leader on these forums today, did you think things will go smoothly? But since there is a leader that tells us what to do and not do, you can see that everything on the forum is well organized and everybody is following the rules that they keep.

Have you ever sat down and imagined how people would behave in the absence of a leader within a group or family? Very unusual, right? The family with the smallest group of people does not farewell when the leader is not present. Leadership is useful for directing people to do what they need to do, rather than a leader who is only concerned with their own self-worth and growing themselves through the sweat of their followers. I am not a fan of injustice in any form, but I do admire leaders and would love to be led, and I will follow whoever I find to be my leader. The truth is that the world wouldn't have been any better place without leaders, everyone would do as they like and no rules set by anyone would be followed or respected.

In fact, I cannot imagine a world without governance, without leadership. How can we even live in this world today without having a leader who is going to lead across all spheres of what we do, whether as a state, as a community, as a family, or even as a nation at large? It would not be possible, or it would be detrimental to development and civilization to live in a world without leadership. That is one aspect. The second aspect, which is very crucial, is that a society without leaders would be a scattered society, and it would be more of a society of predatorship where there would not be peace or order in the affairs of things.

This results in an ungoverned state, which also means that there would be zero tolerance or zero discipline, zero control over affairs. The crux of the matter is that in such a state, there would not be economic activities going on because there would not be any form of administration in place. One thing that I would like you all to understand is that as a public policy analyst, there is what we call development administration. What development administration means is the development of the administration and the administration of development.

That is to say that it is the development of an administration that brings about an administration which fosters developments in society. What that also means is that a society without administration is prone to zero development or lacks developmental strides.

In science, human beings are known as the higher animals, or in other words, Homo sapiens, meaning that we are the most intelligent, the most coordinated, and the most reasoning kind of animals in this world. The only thing that distinguishes us from other animals is our levels of governance because we have the intelligence to join our hands together and build structures that lead to administrations today.

So, the baseline for me is, without the sense of leadership and the structures upon which nations are built, we won't be qualified to be called humans in the first place.

I don't think that such thing will be possible, because human needs governance, and as living creatures there must be a kind of leadership. This is because our creator is a leader and he has his angels around him, and he created us in his own form.

Even in our homes, the father is there to put things in order and provide for the family, while the mother is to make sure that she supports him when he is not around. Same with our big societies and countries. The problem is when we have bad leaders that the people will wish there was no government and laws.