If you don't get the merit, the ranking won't go up? - page 2.

nurilham

sr. member

Activity: 1498

Merit: 443

Quote from: romeitaly on January 03, 2023, 08:47:11 PM

Having merit helps to monitor the users if they post appropriate and useful posts.

Who monitors users' posts?
I never saw any statements that admins or moderators monitor bitcointalk users' posts through their merits.
Anyway, any member can make appropriate or useful posts, even the members who have 0 merits (newbies).

Quote from: romeitaly on January 03, 2023, 08:47:11 PM

Earning a merit also determines how good you are and your growth in the community as time passes by.

Earning merits is good, it indicates that people appreciate our posts. But not every earned merit indicates the quality of posts, people give merit sometimes quite subjective. Each member also has their own standard about an appropriate post to give merits. So, earning merits doesn't always mean the quality of a member, but earning merit should be a part of someone's account rank growth. No change in account level (rank) without earned merits.

Mpamaegbu

legendary

Activity: 2716

Merit: 1225

Once a man, twice a child!

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on January 09, 2023, 10:12:12 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on January 09, 2023, 01:32:04 AM

~snipped~

...so therefore i believe those people who is meriting worthless post or shitpost, cross examine them one after the other you will notice that they are into merit sharing, because no potential forum member will like to give a shitposter or worthless post that have no meaning or not meaningful a merit, either they know each other or it from it's tribe, the methods of giving out merit need to be review because many people is abusing merit system.

You now get the point I'm trying to drive in. So, when this happens we can't say it's because the merited posts have quality. Even, those who give the merit will claim the posts they merited are quality posts. This is why I continue to say it's subjective. Except you've a documented case of merit trading against a user(s), it's really not possible to dictate to them what posts to merit. Even if the merit system is reviewed today as you're calling for it, there will still be other loopholes to exploit. No system of the world is ever perfect.

GeorgeJohn

hero member

Activity: 1498

Merit: 711

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on January 09, 2023, 01:32:04 AM

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...and to earn a merits will be determined by a quality post, with quality post you can be able to earn merit.

This is the part where I disagree with many a user here because I see a lot of shitposts that get merited. Meriting posts isn't wholly a quality thing but subjective. It depends on the judgment and mood of whoever is sending the merit. Again, we can be right to say that certain users find it appealing to merit certain users more than others. The reason is best known to themselves. So, don't conclude that everyone who regularly gets merited are all quality posters.

In normal circumstances and the procedures of merit system, merit is only given to someone whom you find it's response worthy to be emulate, so therefore i believe those people who is meriting worthless post or shitpost, cross examine them one after the other you will notice that they are into merit sharing, because no potential forum member will like to give a shitposter or worthless post that have no meaning or not meaningful a merit, either they know each other or it from it's tribe, the methods of giving out merit need to be review because many people is abusing merit system.

Hyphen(-)

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Activity: 994

Merit: 744

Quote from: Sayakaaja on December 30, 2022, 11:14:15 PM

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Merits and activity are required for advancement in this wonderful forum. Although merit is not a test or outcome of seriousness or intelligence in the forum, it is a reward for contributions made to the forum.

We earn merit from our fellow forum users, and you can give merit if you find a post worthy of merit, which means it is a quality post that speaks a lot about Bitcoin and explains or elaborates on a solution to a specific challenge or question in the forum.

If you have two merits, you will always have one sendable merit to send out, and your own merit will be unaffected.

YOSHIE

legendary

Activity: 2128

Merit: 1775

Quote from: Sayakaaja on December 30, 2022, 11:14:15 PM

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Have you ever been on an airplane, of course you have seen a plane, how big is the plane, how sophisticated is the plane, still, what is mentioned and talked about is the 'pilot' of the plane flying and circling in the air, it's all about the skill and prowess of the pilot.

A few percent maybe you already understand and know what the ranking requirements and merits are from other members who tell you in this thread.
Bottom line: your account is not the main thing, what people want to talk about and see, namely: your skills and knowledge here, if you have extensive knowledge, whether it's about mining, technical, legal, service, Bitcoin and so on related to other information, you are highly respected and valued here, rewards are none other than the merits of other users, automatically your rank can fly freely as high as possible.

Razmirraz

sr. member

Activity: 1316

Merit: 422

Quote from: Uruhara on January 04, 2023, 07:14:07 PM

and what makes us difficult in making quality writing is because of the limited knowledge we have.

Limitations of knowledge can be overcome as long as there is a desire to develop, post quality is needed to increase the number of merits. Merit will be spent on worthy posts, not ones you like. The distribution of merit every day is very large, the forum also has several service threads available to report posts that get merited.
Someone will develop depending on his intention join here, there are those who want to seek knowledge and there are also those who seek money. Prioritize Knowledge, money will be earned when you already understand how the forum works.

GeorgeJohn

hero member

Activity: 1498

Merit: 711

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Quote from: Sayakaaja on December 30, 2022, 11:14:15 PM

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

Merit is the system that's behind everything concerning the growth of everyone in the community, so i believe that anyone that doesn't have merit or earn merit the limitations of it's growth will remain constant, so that is the reason why some people do constantly ensure that they earn merit, while when constantly posting your activities will continue to increase and merits will still remain in one particular point. So merit determine anyone growth in the forum.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Just to get a quick idea of the number of accounts that have managed to Rank-up here since the Merit System was introduced in January 2018, this is the overall view:

See: https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/ddmrddmr/viz/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up

Looking at the above data, the core difficulty resides in moving past the lower two ranks, where numbers tend to get pretty thin.

If we now delimit the view to accounts created since 01/01/2020, this is what things look like:

See: https://public.tableau.com/shared/N8M6S93P5?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

A quick read of the above denotes yet again that mid-to-high ranks are not easy to obtain, yet doable for those that either have or acquire a fair share of knowledge and writing capabilities, which I presume are the core factors alongside time.

Quote from: Uruhara on January 04, 2023, 07:14:07 PM

<…> this is the topic of Mr/Mrs @fillippone <…>

I guess he’s a Mr. … in accordance to what this image of his wrist seems to suggest:

See: #meritislife: how to be notified on a smartband of merits and mentions.

Mpamaegbu

legendary

Activity: 2716

Merit: 1225

Once a man, twice a child!

Quote from: ?? on ??

...and to earn a merits will be determined by a quality post, with quality post you can be able to earn merit.

This is the part where I disagree with many a user here because I see a lot of shitposts that get merited. Meriting posts isn't wholly a quality thing but subjective. It depends on the judgment and mood of whoever is sending the merit. Again, we can be right to say that certain users find it appealing to merit certain users more than others. The reason is best known to themselves. So, don't conclude that everyone who regularly gets merited are all quality posters.

Uruhara

hero member

Activity: 630

Merit: 611

What must be done to be able to quickly rise in rank is motivation and inspiration that will encourage our enthusiasm to learn more and add to knowledge and also work harder.
And when our knowledge has increased, making quality writing is easy. and what makes us difficult in making quality writing is because of the limited knowledge we have.

i recently read an interesting topic and it has grown my motivation in 2023. this is the topic of Mr/Mrs @fillippone. (Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints!). Please visit and find a guide from impressive experience on the topic to create quality writing. i just read it. and it regenerates my enthusiasm to add insight and learn more.

Bhig Daddy

member

Activity: 364

Merit: 13

As per the necessities to rank up, you could use some merit with a different range of it. See other members cited for the necessity. Since you are still a newbie, why not spend some time learning from others here and trying to observe how they get merit? We came from the newbie rank too and had difficulty getting merit, but sooner or later when you did know how does the merit get, you can get yours too. Observe first; don't get under pressure once you think you can share information, even though it may Don't muster the courage to learn due to the merit system.

Cryptomultiplier

full member

Activity: 952

Merit: 232

There's truth to the fact that without merit, the ranking won't go up. Inasmuch as I try to contribute my quota, it is rather intriguing to see how the merit and ranking system works.
I have come to observe however that each post created, if not drafted in the proper manner with links, sources and references inclusive, won't earn merits, instead it gets deleted or moved to a more appropriate board. Also, places to post which assures merit exist, but am still to explore.
In all, it only still proves that earning or getting merits is the sure way to rank up. Prove me wrong otherwise.

joniboini

legendary

Activity: 2170

Merit: 1789

Quote from: Awaklara on January 03, 2023, 11:39:16 PM

Merit is not a benchmark to judge members who are active in forums with good and useful content or posts.

While merit is not always an objective metric to judge whether someone is posting useful and interesting content, it is definitely a good one to filter out spammer. Like it or not, if we try to compare members with a 10 earned merit and 100 earned merit over the span of 120 days, we'll likely see the later post more interesting post.

I think rome is trying to post it from the POV of a campaign manager since they need to choose the best poster for their campaign. If you're just a regular user then there is obviously no incentive to 'monitor' users. That being said, we have multiple tools to check the merit history for each member, so there is obviously a demand for something like that. OP can also follow them if he wants to 'learn' how to make a post that is interesting if his goal is to rank up and participate in an engaging forum discussion.

Razmirraz

sr. member

Activity: 1316

Merit: 422

Everything is clear after you get the first merit that takes you to rank Jr. members. Don't put merit as your main goal, start dedicating yourself to forums with quality posts. Merit will come by itself without you expecting that you can be promoted to a higher rank when the requirements for ranking up are met.
The question above has been thrown in several discussions, the answer remains the same. Some users have provided links that may lead to requirements for ranking up. Study everything that has been written there and use it as a trigger for yourself to make it easier for you to reach new ranks.

Awaklara

hero member

Activity: 1246

Merit: 699

Quote from: romeitaly on January 03, 2023, 08:47:11 PM

Having merit helps to monitor the users if they post appropriate and useful posts. Earning a merit also determines how good you are and your growth in the community as time passes by. Always post appropriate and useful for better rewards.

Why monitor users who earn Merit?
Merit is not a benchmark to judge members who are active in forums with good and useful content or posts.
OP focus, Merit to rank up. no Merit then there will be no rank up. Op already received multiple thread inputs for Merit. and now we just have to see how he progresses with so many suggestions.

romeitaly

full member

Activity: 308

Merit: 108

Quote from: Despairo on December 30, 2022, 11:41:08 PM

Yes.

You can read in this thread where you must have both activity and merit if you want to rank up Merit & new rank requirements.

It doesn't like in the past before 2018 where you can rank up if you only have activity, merit is a way to prevent from spammers and low quality post users. So if you don't get any merit, it mean you're a shitposter.

Having merit helps to monitor the users if they post appropriate and useful posts. Earning a merit also determines how good you are and your growth in the community as time passes by. Always post appropriate and useful for better rewards.

qwertyup23

hero member

Activity: 2268

Merit: 789

Quote from: MiliMil on January 02, 2023, 06:02:54 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on December 31, 2022, 05:14:58 AM

I understand your frustration because you have 112 posts and not yet rank up to JR.Member and still in a newbie rank, I checked your post history some of them deserve merits but unfortunately, they're unnoticed, I merited one of your posts that deserves it and encourage you to keep up creating posts like that, the one I merited, once you get the habit of posting relevant and good posts the merits will come automatically.

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion!

Just like any high-forum rankers, everyone started as a newbie and at the bottom. Even if you do not know much about the cryptocurrency world, then it is still possible for you to climb your way but it does require patience. Instead of focusing on the mindset of ranking up, focus on gaining knowledge and learning from the threads here. As soon as you start understanding the basics and fundamentals, you have now the capacity to contribute slowly and eventually get merits in the forum.

I do agree that even some high rankers are having difficulty gaining merits in the process but at the end of the day, not everything in this forum revolve around merits!

_BlackStar

legendary

Activity: 1064

Merit: 1228

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on January 03, 2023, 04:13:19 PM

This has obviously explained that you haven't read through the rules and the sticky notes on each and every board-- including this one....no you haven't, if you have then you won't be asking a question like this.

It is a fact that a lack of reading habits will lead one to get lost even if it is quite clearly sticky on the main page. OP didn't read or could have easily dismissed it, but now he has nice addition to how to use the forum.

Merit doesn't come suddenly without some extra effort put into making quality posts. Not a single newbie after the implementation of this merit system will rank up if they don't care about the quality of the posts ^{[nothing is magical]} unless some of their friends support their futile efforts. But by reading a lot, understanding the rules and getting good idea for post, they will have a good chance of getting what they want. OP should realize that the merit system is the most successful way of preventing rank up spammers, and that's how it is.

Coyster

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 1302

Quote from: MiliMil on January 02, 2023, 06:02:54 AM

I just created my account today after scrolling through these forums for a few months. I am a newbie who doesn't have the intricate knowledge of cryptocurrency so how can I contribute to topics if I have no knowledge on them? I am going to start researching and reading a lot in the next few days and hopefully get merited. Thanks for your suggestion!

Mind you too that earning merits do not come quite fast for most users, though there are some exceptional users that have Bitcoin/crypto/any unique knowledge even before they ever became a user on this forum, thus earning merits could be easier for such users even in their early days in their forum, but the thing is that most users aren't like that, that is why it is usually a slow and interesting process for most.

Having said that, since you are a newbie don't forget to take your time to learn, if you do not have knowledge to contribute to topics now, then don't, use this time to garner that essential knowledge. You also don't have to hope to get merited, or to post solely to get merited, just garner knowledge and contribute to the forum because you want to discuss/communicate and you'd definitely get merits.

Sandra_hakeem

hero member

Activity: 798

Merit: 1045

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Quote from: Sayakaaja on December 30, 2022, 11:14:15 PM

To be honest, I'm still a beginner here. and I want to ask if our ranking will not go up if we don't have merit?

please explain, and thank you

This has obviously explained that you haven't read through the rules and the sticky notes on each and every board-- including this one....no you haven't, if you have then you won't be asking a question like this.
Merit is very important to achieve a rank in here, AFAIK... You've been seeing alot of peeps with different merit count; that's not just fancied anyways, it's really something anyone should get if you must rank up in here. It's been happening way back; when peeps only needed few or much activity ratio to rank up, it's pretty different now as everyone new in here -- after the merit system had to pass through the same process... Earning merit is a different ball game entirely.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

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