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Topic: if you had 200 GH/s which is the most profitable pool? (Read 9754 times)

donator
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you got hacked bitch!
I can recommend joining DeepBit.
This should be the most profitable solution, at least for me.

LOL at least you are honest, bro!
hero member
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Your hashrate doesn't matter, only your strategy which should vary by the payout method.

Btw, Bitclockers is now PPS, no point hopping them.

This is the thread you want:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/current-state-of-pool-hopping-81946

Oh, alright. Thanks for the info.
donator
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Poor impulse control.
I guess this fits in the thread, sorta. So, does hopping with a lower hashrate still give you a little bonus profit? Like say .5 to 1GH hopping deepbit or bitclockers.

Your hashrate doesn't matter, only your strategy which should vary by the payout method.

Btw, Bitclockers is now PPS, no point hopping them.

This is the thread you want:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/current-state-of-pool-hopping-81946
hero member
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I guess this fits in the thread, sorta. So, does hopping with a lower hashrate still give you a little bonus profit? Like say .5 to 1GH hopping deepbit or bitclockers.
legendary
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Hodling since 2011.®
I can recommend joining DeepBit.
This should be the most profitable solution, at least for me.
It looks like 200 Gh/s solo player joined deepbit after all and it's at the 2nd place of deepbit teams ladder.
sr. member
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Keep it Simple. Every Bit Matters.
At 200 Gh/s, your hash rate is so high, you can easily take on entire blocks by yourself. 2 blocks a day would be easy, maybe 3.
That rate is also in the same ball park as many entire pools combined rate, so understandably you would massively effect their network just being there. You'd also be a target, bother good and bad.

So in short, you don't need a pool, so I wouldn't recommend it at all, Solo mining would net you the best results.

The only way entering a pool would be a good idea is if you decided to run your own pool.
Which many a pool operate will tell you takes a bit of work and would become a job in itself, but you'd get noticed for sure with a setup so large.

I personally would not bother with a pool, it's a lot of work and if you have the capacity to mine entire blocks in a good time frame, no point overcomplicating it.

Since this is just a theoretical question, with such a large system I hope you planned to do it with a FPGA or similar system, rather than GPU's.
I wouldn't like to see the electrical bill of something this size, either options would be high, but at least with FPGA's it be considerably smaller.
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Those 120% pools often end up paying you nothing and running off with your money. Does not seem like a good risk vs reward.

How about this Death&T.
If I put my preferred pool in the cgminer config nineteen times and put down a pool with texting like eclipse once. Then set cgminer to balance, only about 5% of the shares would go to them. SMS should still work fine if a miner is shut down. I've thought about trying it, I'm not sure if it would lower the performance though.

Project #2 is run by me and at the worst it is set up so you do not lose more than a days worth of work. We force payout daily to lower our risk and yours.

However p2pool is a great pool and you should go with that. But you did ask what pays the most and that is not p2pool.

Project 2 is a no brainier 105% no matter what, however, p2p + mm with 5 alt currencies should yield more...but their is more work to do than Project 2.

GPUmax is the highest payout but high variance, usually in the positive...

If you care what I would do, then I would use 200+ gh/s to hop with bH and get at least 128%, then add more hashes by whole selling 200gh hashes at 105% and keep 23% which yields 151%.  You will get  5700 BTC a month...and a lot of work...
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guys, again, i am not currently in possession of 200 GH/s.  i do hope to accumulate it over the short to mid term (am currently in research mode, not in purchasing mode), but i'm more interested in the academic comparison of solo vs pool, or p2p vs "normal" pool, at that hashrate, so i can plan accordingly.

If you don't already know how to get the best profits out of 200GH/s then you really should not be thinking of buying that kind of hashrate. There is a good chance that you will never make a profit even with an optimal setup and your first attempt will not be optimal. There are complexities you need to account for that you will only learn with experience.

Personally I'd setup my own pool taking care to eliminate as many SPOFs as possible. A highly distributed setup is good with at least a couple of connections to the internet. cgminer's failover is helpful or you could run bitcoind on every one of your nodes and gateway them though a few internet connected bitcoinds for something truly distributed. Don't forget to merged mine too.


'research mode'?, 'purchasing mode'? This is tie wearing MBA talk. Don't obfuscate your thoughts with such language.
rjk
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1ngldh
what kind of weird person would join a pool versus solo?
Because you can't hop when you are solo mining. You don't want the extra profits?
donator
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Gerald Davis
what kind of weird person would join a pool versus solo?

what kind of weird person solos when there are 0% fee pools?

Looking at your short post history I would guess a troll?
newbie
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what kind of weird person would join a pool versus solo?
donator
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Gerald Davis
Anyone know how much more p2pool gives you vs a free pool?

It depends.  Donations are about ~0.5% but that varies a lot and there is no guarantee of donations in the future.  The p2pool network averages about a 8% internal stale rate.  If hypothetically you internal stale rate was 0% you would earn ~108% of PPS.  That likely is impossible but an internal state rate of 5% (103% PPS) is possible.
sr. member
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Maybe rotation would do the same thing. I tried out the balance method a little while. Cgminer seems to think my hash-rate increased by 20mh, could be a glitch in the way its getting that number though.

Anyone know how much more p2pool gives you vs a free pool?
donator
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Gerald Davis
IIRC Balancing option in cgminer is non-optimal.  Something to do with way it handles LP across multiple pools.  I could be wrong but it is late and I never use balancing option so that is my story and I am sticking with it.

This applies to load balance only not failover.
sr. member
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Those 120% pools often end up paying you nothing and running off with your money. Does not seem like a good risk vs reward.

How about this Death&T.
If I put my preferred pool in the cgminer config nineteen times and put down a pool with texting like eclipse once. Then set cgminer to balance, only about 5% of the shares would go to them. SMS should still work fine if a miner is shut down. I've thought about trying it, I'm not sure if it would lower the performance though.
member
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Chlorine - keeps your pool in top condition
Nobody has the correct answer, which is to start your own pool.

After all, running your own pool doesn't cost you any additional time! ;-)
legendary
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Nobody has the correct answer, which is to start your own pool.

Pools with no hashrate have a hard time launching. If you start a pool with 200GHash/s on day one, you are golden. Then the transactions fees, mining fees, and donations you earn are just gravy. Why pay fees when you can earn fees!
sr. member
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If I had that many cards I would join a pool that sends a text message when a miner is down.

What if someone offered a service like that for p2pool (or any pool) and it cost say 1 bitcent per text?  Would you be interested in paying?  What if it also could provide notification on low hashrate, excessive stales, pool down/pool switched, block found, BTC paid, etc?


I'm sure some people would. Eclipse has free texting, merged mining and dgm. Some pools have better variance but I'm not sure its worth paying for in the long run. Slush's pool would be more tempting with that feature though.
legendary
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If I had that many cards I would join a pool that sends a text message when a miner is down.
This is probably the best suggestion yet.
donator
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Gerald Davis
If I had that many cards I would join a pool that sends a text message when a miner is down.

What if someone offered a service like that for p2pool (or any pool) and it cost say 1 bitcent per text?  Would you be interested in paying?  What if it also could provide notification on low hashrate, excessive stales, pool down/pool switched, block found, BTC paid, etc?

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