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Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

When you are addicted, your bet amount is way higher than what you can afford to lose, and how often you gamble doesn't count anymore as you can loss a big amount of money in just one bet, especially in sports gambling.

Addicted gambler usually focus on one gambling game which they think they can win, and because it's really challenging, they also challenge themselves putting an amount that would put much excitement that could affect their financial status in life.

I feel there is two kind of addiction in gambling,first one is addicted to the game,so people want to keep playing the addicted game so te bet amount can be smaller since they can play longer by reducing the bet amount and the another addiction is for money this kind of people will act like just you said.

There is no type to that since addiction is addiction, that is no different than other addicted gamblers.

They bet money on it, they always play it, what is the difference? They are losing a lot of money despite them betting small money since they are still gambling and still, they are losing. All I know is that their playtime should be reduced to improve lives.

What they are addictive is something will decide the players mind,IMO.

When an user gets into gambling it is very hard to restrict himself within specific time limits. Better is to make a limit on the spending, and the same needs to be made unlike the winning and losing. This will limit the gamblers stay within the time constrain. However the gambler himself is responsible for his loss. He need to act accordingly having self control.

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Quote from: Janation on August 02, 2019, 01:08:42 AM

Quote from: Thanasis on August 02, 2019, 12:50:44 AM

Quote from: Japinat on August 01, 2019, 10:39:48 PM

Quote from: Thanasis on August 01, 2019, 01:54:40 AM

Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

When you are addicted, your bet amount is way higher than what you can afford to lose, and how often you gamble doesn't count anymore as you can loss a big amount of money in just one bet, especially in sports gambling.

Addicted gambler usually focus on one gambling game which they think they can win, and because it's really challenging, they also challenge themselves putting an amount that would put much excitement that could affect their financial status in life.

I feel there is two kind of addiction in gambling,first one is addicted to the game,so people want to keep playing the addicted game so te bet amount can be smaller since they can play longer by reducing the bet amount and the another addiction is for money this kind of people will act like just you said.

There is no type to that since addiction is addiction, that is no different than other addicted gamblers.

They bet money on it, they always play it, what is the difference? They are losing a lot of money despite them betting small money since they are still gambling and still, they are losing. All I know is that their playtime should be reduced to improve lives.

What they are addictive is something will decide the players mind,IMO.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 01, 2019, 10:39:48 PM

Quote from: Thanasis on August 01, 2019, 01:54:40 AM

Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

When you are addicted, your bet amount is way higher than what you can afford to lose, and how often you gamble doesn't count anymore as you can loss a big amount of money in just one bet, especially in sports gambling.

Addicted gambler usually focus on one gambling game which they think they can win, and because it's really challenging, they also challenge themselves putting an amount that would put much excitement that could affect their financial status in life.

It is really challenging for them and they will feel more pressure as they put a higher amount on their bet. This is the problem with them. They want to challenge themselves and in the end, they will feel regret because of what they did. Yes they are focusing only on one game but they must control themselves and bet a small amount of money.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 01, 2019, 10:39:48 PM

Quote from: Thanasis on August 01, 2019, 01:54:40 AM

Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

When you are addicted, your bet amount is way higher than what you can afford to lose, and how often you gamble doesn't count anymore as you can loss a big amount of money in just one bet, especially in sports gambling.

Addicted gambler usually focus on one gambling game which they think they can win, and because it's really challenging, they also challenge themselves putting an amount that would put much excitement that could affect their financial status in life.

You are right, addictive people will not bother much about how much they are losing, they will bet the higher amount for higher rewards but there focus will be on one game. Because they already know when to exit from the game they desired.

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Quote from: Thanasis on August 02, 2019, 12:50:44 AM

Quote from: Japinat on August 01, 2019, 10:39:48 PM

Quote from: Thanasis on August 01, 2019, 01:54:40 AM

Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

When you are addicted, your bet amount is way higher than what you can afford to lose, and how often you gamble doesn't count anymore as you can loss a big amount of money in just one bet, especially in sports gambling.

Addicted gambler usually focus on one gambling game which they think they can win, and because it's really challenging, they also challenge themselves putting an amount that would put much excitement that could affect their financial status in life.

I feel there is two kind of addiction in gambling,first one is addicted to the game,so people want to keep playing the addicted game so te bet amount can be smaller since they can play longer by reducing the bet amount and the another addiction is for money this kind of people will act like just you said.

There is no type to that since addiction is addiction, that is no different than other addicted gamblers.

They bet money on it, they always play it, what is the difference? They are losing a lot of money despite them betting small money since they are still gambling and still, they are losing. All I know is that their playtime should be reduced to improve lives.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 01, 2019, 10:39:48 PM

Quote from: Thanasis on August 01, 2019, 01:54:40 AM

Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

When you are addicted, your bet amount is way higher than what you can afford to lose, and how often you gamble doesn't count anymore as you can loss a big amount of money in just one bet, especially in sports gambling.

Addicted gambler usually focus on one gambling game which they think they can win, and because it's really challenging, they also challenge themselves putting an amount that would put much excitement that could affect their financial status in life.

I feel there is two kind of addiction in gambling,first one is addicted to the game,so people want to keep playing the addicted game so te bet amount can be smaller since they can play longer by reducing the bet amount and the another addiction is for money this kind of people will act like just you said.

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Personally I have my limits for the number of bets I play within a time frame. After 3 bets, I most likely back off even if I'm winning or losing. You are right when you mentioned that people get greedy and keep Betting when they win bets, making them lose at the end most times. Let's remove greed from the picture and know our limits.

Say it to those greedy stupid gamblers out there Cheesy

. They don't know what are they limits and they will just gamble and gamble and they will only stop if they have no money anymore. I also have limits when I'm gambling. Around 4-5 bets is enough for me and I only spend a small amount on it. I don't want to get addicted into gambling.

Its easy to say those greedy gamblers, but it is hard that they understand it, because they have cross the limitations in gambling and they can't come and stop in limited manners, because they become greedy and have addiction of gambling.

When it comes to greedy gamblers and addicted gambler, they are hard to accept the loss because they cannot realize that in gambling, someone should lose and the other people should win and that is because of luck. They cannot accept to get defeat by another player or by the house because they feel that their luck comes to them and they should win. We should prevent us from becoming like them by anticipating ourselves to lose control, and we try to accept the loss no matter if it's hard to feel.

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Quote from: Thanasis on August 01, 2019, 01:54:40 AM

Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

When you are addicted, your bet amount is way higher than what you can afford to lose, and how often you gamble doesn't count anymore as you can loss a big amount of money in just one bet, especially in sports gambling.

Addicted gambler usually focus on one gambling game which they think they can win, and because it's really challenging, they also challenge themselves putting an amount that would put much excitement that could affect their financial status in life.

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There is something called Risk of Ruin.

Wikipedia has a good article on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_ruin

But the 1st 21words sum it up perfectly

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Risk of ruin is a concept in gambling, insurance, and finance relating to the likelihood of losing all one's investment capital

Here is a calculator for it.
https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/calculator/risk-of-ruin/

If you are going to gamble know your RoR and live by it.

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I don't want to get addicted into gambling.

You won't if you stick with your strategy, however, like I said, spending small amount is not fun at all

It is not going to work out like that

If one is predisposed to addiction (and I think there's not a lot of difference among numerous types of addiction, psychologically), the best a potential addict can do is to simply stay away from gambling altogether. He won't be able to stick to this strategy of small bets just because he doesn't have it in him (so it's better not to risk it). On the other hand, if one can keep on playing using small amounts for some time, he can as well bet larger sums as the risk of developing or contracting an addiction will be minimal

Lol. Let's not kid ourselves. Very few people can consistently bet with small amounts. The more you make bets, the more you'll be compelled to up your wagers. That's how gambling works even before addiction sets in. The fact that you're already gambling on a vonsustent basis, even with little amount, means you're not having an easy time avoiding the act itself.

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Quote from: Vaculin on August 01, 2019, 01:15:34 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 09:46:39 PM

I don't want to get addicted into gambling.

You won't if you stick with your strategy, however, like I said, spending small amount is not fun at all

It is not going to work out like that

If one is predisposed to addiction (and I think there's not a lot of difference among numerous types of addiction, psychologically), the best a potential addict can do is to simply stay away from gambling altogether. He won't be able to stick to this strategy of small bets just because he doesn't have it in him (so it's better not to risk it). On the other hand, if one can keep on playing using small amounts for some time, he can as well bet larger sums as the risk of developing or contracting an addiction will be minimal

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Quote from: Vaculin on August 01, 2019, 01:15:34 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 09:46:39 PM

I only spend a small amount on it.

Spending a small amount in gambling will surely not make you addicted, however, if I'm in your shoes, I would not feel the thrill with a small bet only.
I do changes my betting amount, sometimes I loss big and feed bad of course but I accepted that it's part of the game.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 09:46:39 PM

I don't want to get addicted into gambling.

You won't if you stick with your strategy, however, like I said, spending small amount is not fun at all.

But how long we are gambling decide whether we are addicted or not no matter of the bet amount is small or high because it where is depends on the financial status of the each person. Keep playing the same game again and again also can be addictive so keep changing the games and also the bet amount to make ourself refresh and not get addicted to that.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 09:46:39 PM

I only spend a small amount on it.

Spending a small amount in gambling will surely not make you addicted, however, if I'm in your shoes, I would not feel the thrill with a small bet only.
I do changes my betting amount, sometimes I loss big and feed bad of course but I accepted that it's part of the game.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 09:46:39 PM

I don't want to get addicted into gambling.

You won't if you stick with your strategy, however, like I said, spending small amount is not fun at all.

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Quote from: dataispower on July 30, 2019, 06:34:36 PM

Personally I have my limits for the number of bets I play within a time frame. After 3 bets, I most likely back off even if I'm winning or losing. You are right when you mentioned that people get greedy and keep Betting when they win bets, making them lose at the end most times. Let's remove greed from the picture and know our limits.

Say it to those greedy stupid gamblers out there Cheesy

. They don't know what are they limits and they will just gamble and gamble and they will only stop if they have no money anymore. I also have limits when I'm gambling. Around 4-5 bets is enough for me and I only spend a small amount on it. I don't want to get addicted into gambling.

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If you don't want to go bankrupt then accept you losses on gambling it will help you to stop chasing the lost amount and help you to go back home with some money left on your wallet.

Having confidence on something which you don't really influence anything sucks you.

I think this is not always true. One thing I have seen in gambling is that there is no manual that guides on how to and how not to play. What works for one person might not work for another. For instance, there are people who never accept defeats and yet have never gone bankrupt in gambling. They have a desired goal they wish to achieve and loosing will not stop them, so they continue to play till they succeed in recovering loses and as well meeting up to their target.

Though this might not work for others but still doesn’t make it a bad thing. The best advice for every player is to learn to avoid been greedy regardless of the method used in playing. I think this is my own opinion on this.

Those people were just lucky, it is very common that players bring anecdotes of people they knew that take huge risks and yet they have never gone bankrupt, but remember this if your risk of bankruptcy is anything other than zero and you keep playing there is a 100% chance that you will lose everything, it is just a matter of time, that is just a mathematical fact, even if you had a strategy that could obtain profits consistently from a casino you could still go bankrupt.

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Quote from: redsun114 on July 30, 2019, 09:57:05 AM

Quote from: akram143 on July 29, 2019, 09:24:12 AM

If you don't want to go bankrupt then accept you losses on gambling it will help you to stop chasing the lost amount and help you to go back home with some money left on your wallet.

Having confidence on something which you don't really influence anything sucks you.

I think this is not always true. One thing I have seen in gambling is that there is no manual that guides on how to and how not to play. What works for one person might not work for another. For instance, there are people who never accept defeats and yet have never gone bankrupt in gambling. They have a desired goal they wish to achieve and loosing will not stop them, so they continue to play till they succeed in recovering loses and as well meeting up to their target.

Though this might not work for others but still doesn’t make it a bad thing. The best advice for every player is to learn to avoid been greedy regardless of the method used in playing. I think this is my own opinion on this.

There is a manual but you probably have not accepted it as one and you have mentioned it already, that is avoiding been greedy. This supersedes all rules. I believe that a gambler that is not greedy will understand when to say no and when to put a stop to a game. That’s the idea of setting limit to playing.

Greedy players would never accept defeat, in short, they always believe in playing till they see that all the money is totally gone and this is what leads to addiction. Gambling is not a game of desperation, the OP has broken it down completely and I absolutely agree with him, no gambler should be desperate or play desperately. Let’s learn to accept defeat and move on, this way, I believe we would be better players.

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Quote from: dataispower on July 30, 2019, 06:34:36 PM

Personally I have my limits for the number of bets I play within a time frame. After 3 bets, I most likely back off even if I'm winning or losing. You are right when you mentioned that people get greedy and keep Betting when they win bets, making them lose at the end most times. Let's remove greed from the picture and know our limits.

Indeed. Emotions can make you reckless on the bigger winning or losing streaks. The same for the bet sizes, people tend to raise there bets to battle losses but most of the time it wont play out.

Your aggressiveness make you lose then after, if you play with emotions most of the time you are losing the chances of winning against the house, as each time you make a bets and keep increasing it instead of sticking with the plan strategy, you need to completely follow your system if you wanted to win, there's always a good chance to win when you are playing according to your plans and not allowing emotions to take over.

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Quote from: Shary on July 28, 2019, 05:31:12 AM

if you want to be successful in gambling accept the defeat first, and the game is all yours

Well, it looks more like you can't be successful in gambling

At least, as long as we are talking about games of chance, i.e. not poker and similar games where skill matters as much as pure luck (if not more). Long story short, if by success you mean earning profits (i.e. not having fun or anything to that tune), gambling is the last thing you should stick to

And it doesn't really matter whether you accept defeat or not. What matters is how long you play, and the longer you play, the higher are your chances of losing all. To put it differently, you can win only by chance, and that pretty much means a one-off event (read, hit and run, and never look back). In short, gambling is for entertainment purposes only

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If you don't want to go bankrupt then accept you losses on gambling it will help you to stop chasing the lost amount and help you to go back home with some money left on your wallet.

Having confidence on something which you don't really influence anything sucks you.

Accepting for what your losses on the gambling are the only solution for you and after that, you should stop gambling and take a rest. You can come back in the other time with a refreshed mind that could help you to get a big win although that is not guaranteed. We see many people/gamblers cannot accept the losses and make them get a high tension because of the amount of the money they are losing. But if they cannot accept the losses, they cannot move on from the losses, and that will be the end for them.

Accept defeat or understand the consequences of the risk of gambling, will make you play without burden. many people use this method so that they dare to use large capital to get greater profits. but of course the risk will be far greater. when you lose of course the total loss will be very large, once again this method is only for people who dare to accept defeat, but of course big rewards and big profit will wait for them

Many people does not realize the damage and the loss, until they actually face the loss. They do not take gambling seriously and think that they cannot lose big in gambling. They only realize that they have lost big amount of money in gambling and its too late then to go back and recover the loses. A lost in gambling is a lost forever and in most cases it is impossible to recover from such loses.

Both of you are right, and they never think about how big they lose, they still playing gambling. For some people, the loss is normal, and they will not feel anything bad, but for the other, the loss will make them stop playing gambling. The defeat reminds us of the risk of playing gambling, and we have to think to continue or to stop, and it's not because of if we continue, we will have a chance to win, it is not. No matter how much money you lose, you should accept the defeat so you can decide what you need to do next.

i dont think so . me as a gambler i always think about my losses . losses is on my mind at all times but this does not mean that i wont win or it will cause a badluck to me , infact i still win but its better if we can accept the fact that we could loose so that no hard feelings that will be experience later on . im not aiming for bigger wins but i still accept defeats whether its small or big because im sport .

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Well, it is one of the risks so face it if you want to win big in gambling. The chances of you winning is slightly low compare to losing but still there is a chance. Accepting defeat is one attitude that gamblers doesn't have.

I mean is when they got defeated, they will get their revenge and will invest more money into it and get their losses. This is a wrong move of the gamblers but we can't blame them if that is what they want. Most of the gamblers that did this suffered more loses although there are some who got away with profit so they are lucky if they win.

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