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legendary
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Baritus wont ever be involved in DGC and its development EVER. (Atleast not while i'm around).

I'm completely agree with You.

Well that is definitely good to hear. I have a lot of respect for ahmedbodi, and I have followed his work on other coins - including Myriad.

I admit I was rather livid when the baritus thing occurred and probably sold my DGC a bit too hastily. For the record I did approve of letting BCX sort the whole issue out, but it seems he is ready to call a truce as well. Having the foundation publish a statement on the matter isn't too much to ask is it?
legendary
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sr. member
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Just hopped on here for the first time this year... I'm pleasantly surprised to see that DGC still has a following. Keep at it man!
sr. member
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agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Suppose I should pack it all up and move along because some devs of other coins told me to; Sounds like solid advice to me Smiley

you're question has always been what would be 'your' next move, and in reference to me that's exactly what I would do, tis not at all advice on what you should do.

and to quit sounds like sound advice, as you stated you can't change the past, so dgc will always be haunted by its past.

Fair enough. I appreciate your input!

and by a past that got on peoples bad side I wasn't talking just Baritus, a few core members of dgc earlier on took to ddos.......hint didn't make some of us so happy did my defence by building a dgc holding war chest Wink

kelsey, would you be willing to join our IRC channel and hash this out with me personally?


Your crew didn't seem to what to hash it out with me on IRC at the time, tried on several occasions, baritus though not directly involved (as far as I know) chose to stay silent on the matter even after pleading with him to rain in his lap dogs.



What?

what? what?

i'm saying I tried to sort it out on chat in the past, but the core group still continued their actions, so I don't see any reason not to continue mine.

You'll be hard pressed to find that same mentality in our community anymore. I invite you to see for yourself Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 578
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Do you know tenebrix, fairbrix? Tonal bitcoin? those were the starter alts..lack of everything left them dead and buried.

Not too up to date on the alt history are you?

Tenebrix and Fairbrix died because I personally exterminated them along with a few of the other early alts that were pieces of shit. In all fairness TBX and FBX were prototype coins and I was asked by the devs to stress them. They were the forerunners of Litecoin.

Back on topic.

The title of the thread is "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step"

There seems to be a real concern by people about Baritus still being involved. Count me in as one of those people and as I am sure Ahmed can tell you, having experienced first hand that I can be a significant barrier to any coin I desire to be.

What would convince me is that if kenel or the DGC Foundation publicly and clearly stated that Baritus is not involved in any manner, never will be and more than likely stole the $30K of DGC, I would consider the matter closed. The last I heard from the DGC Foundation was that Baritus was not involved but was considered a valuable friend and would remain behind the scenes while building his exchange.

So kenel, how about that clarification on Baritus and his involvement in the BS story?


~BCX~

Baritus wont ever be involved in DGC and its development EVER. (Atleast not while i'm around). My own personal opinion (not from the foundation or kenel) is that baritus most likely dumped the DGC himself rather than an employee. (No exchange operator is dumb enough to leave their wallet unsecured on a device which other people have access to).

now doesn't that just leave yet another with a big stash to dump anytime dgc moves forward?

Not really -- our distribution is pretty spread out compared to other coins.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgc/#!rich
sr. member
Activity: 578
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Do you know tenebrix, fairbrix? Tonal bitcoin? those were the starter alts..lack of everything left them dead and buried.

Not too up to date on the alt history are you?

Tenebrix and Fairbrix died because I personally exterminated them along with a few of the other early alts that were pieces of shit. In all fairness TBX and FBX were prototype coins and I was asked by the devs to stress them. They were the forerunners of Litecoin.

Back on topic.

The title of the thread is "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step"

There seems to be a real concern by people about Baritus still being involved. Count me in as one of those people and as I am sure Ahmed can tell you, having experienced first hand that I can be a significant barrier to any coin I desire to be.

What would convince me is that if kenel or the DGC Foundation publicly and clearly stated that Baritus is not involved in any manner, never will be and more than likely stole the $30K of DGC, I would consider the matter closed. The last I heard from the DGC Foundation was that Baritus was not involved but was considered a valuable friend and would remain behind the scenes while building his exchange.

So kenel, how about that clarification on Baritus and his involvement in the BS story?


~BCX~

You're absolutely right that when The Foundation first took over the development of the coin, we had every intention on playing nice. I'm not one to burn bridges.

As time went on, and the code that made up Digitalcoin V2 was dissected, and baritus became ever more distant, I believe the mentality changed a bit.
We're now on V3 with multi-algo and a lot of fun extras (inlcuding a large op_return data in our blockchain which once realized by the public is going to be a major positive for DGC), have been stress tested, and completely rewritten by xawksow and ahmed.

I'll thank him for two things -- 1) Digitalcoin is a great and marketable name. Kudos. 2) Handing over control of the coin to the foundation. Best thing he's done.

As for the DGC being stolen, I don't know. They were donations and his "personal fund". I'm not sure that even if he did dump them that would be considered stealing. I think it's complete bullshit and immoral if he did dump them, and something I would never do myself, but to each his own. It is what it is.

What I think most people are concerned about are the shares of the failed CryptoAve project. If those shares / DGC value were dumped instead of being returned to investors, yes, I believe that would be considered stealing.

Baritus hasn't contributed a single bit of input since we took over development. I haven't seen him around in months aside from the one or two posts on our Digitalcoin forum (which is now privatized for DGC holders only) at the beginning of the month.

So, TLDR:

Baritus is no longer involved in the development of DGC. We initially fully intended to keep him as a 'consultant' for the foundation. The entire situation has changed. We are developed now by xawksow, ahmed, and the rest of our foundation guys. There's a possibility that he dumped his personal fund/donations of DGC....if he did, shame on him, but I'm not his mother nor do I really even care if he did or not.
sr. member
Activity: 473
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Baritus wont ever be involved in DGC and its development EVER. (Atleast not while i'm around).

I'm completely agree with You.
legendary
Activity: 2097
Merit: 1070
now doesn't that just leave yet another with a big stash to dump anytime dgc moves forward?

I don't understand the issue here ?

Are you complaining that some people have lots of coins and might dump them if the price goes up ?
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
Do you know tenebrix, fairbrix? Tonal bitcoin? those were the starter alts..lack of everything left them dead and buried.

Not too up to date on the alt history are you?

Tenebrix and Fairbrix died because I personally exterminated them along with a few of the other early alts that were pieces of shit. In all fairness TBX and FBX were prototype coins and I was asked by the devs to stress them. They were the forerunners of Litecoin.

Back on topic.

The title of the thread is "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step"

There seems to be a real concern by people about Baritus still being involved. Count me in as one of those people and as I am sure Ahmed can tell you, having experienced first hand that I can be a significant barrier to any coin I desire to be.

What would convince me is that if kenel or the DGC Foundation publicly and clearly stated that Baritus is not involved in any manner, never will be and more than likely stole the $30K of DGC, I would consider the matter closed. The last I heard from the DGC Foundation was that Baritus was not involved but was considered a valuable friend and would remain behind the scenes while building his exchange.

So kenel, how about that clarification on Baritus and his involvement in the BS story?


~BCX~

Baritus wont ever be involved in DGC and its development EVER. (Atleast not while i'm around). My own personal opinion (not from the foundation or kenel) is that baritus most likely dumped the DGC himself rather than an employee. (No exchange operator is dumb enough to leave their wallet unsecured on a device which other people have access to).

now doesn't that just leave yet another with a big stash to dump anytime dgc moves forward?
hero member
Activity: 800
Merit: 1000
Do you know tenebrix, fairbrix? Tonal bitcoin? those were the starter alts..lack of everything left them dead and buried.

Not too up to date on the alt history are you?

Tenebrix and Fairbrix died because I personally exterminated them along with a few of the other early alts that were pieces of shit. In all fairness TBX and FBX were prototype coins and I was asked by the devs to stress them. They were the forerunners of Litecoin.

Back on topic.

The title of the thread is "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step"

There seems to be a real concern by people about Baritus still being involved. Count me in as one of those people and as I am sure Ahmed can tell you, having experienced first hand that I can be a significant barrier to any coin I desire to be.

What would convince me is that if kenel or the DGC Foundation publicly and clearly stated that Baritus is not involved in any manner, never will be and more than likely stole the $30K of DGC, I would consider the matter closed. The last I heard from the DGC Foundation was that Baritus was not involved but was considered a valuable friend and would remain behind the scenes while building his exchange.

So kenel, how about that clarification on Baritus and his involvement in the BS story?


~BCX~

Baritus wont ever be involved in DGC and its development EVER. (Atleast not while i'm around). My own personal opinion (not from the foundation or kenel) is that baritus most likely dumped the DGC himself rather than an employee. (No exchange operator is dumb enough to leave their wallet unsecured on a device which other people have access to).
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Suppose I should pack it all up and move along because some devs of other coins told me to; Sounds like solid advice to me Smiley

you're question has always been what would be 'your' next move, and in reference to me that's exactly what I would do, tis not at all advice on what you should do.

and to quit sounds like sound advice, as you stated you can't change the past, so dgc will always be haunted by its past.

Fair enough. I appreciate your input!

and by a past that got on peoples bad side I wasn't talking just Baritus, a few core members of dgc earlier on took to ddos.......hint didn't make some of us so happy did my defence by building a dgc holding war chest Wink

kelsey, would you be willing to join our IRC channel and hash this out with me personally?


Your crew didn't seem to what to hash it out with me on IRC at the time, tried on several occasions, baritus though not directly involved (as far as I know) chose to stay silent on the matter even after pleading with him to rain in his lap dogs.



What?

what? what?

i'm saying I tried to sort it out on chat in the past, but the core group still continued their actions, so I don't see any reason not to continue mine.
sr. member
Activity: 264
Merit: 250
Do you know tenebrix, fairbrix? Tonal bitcoin? those were the starter alts..lack of everything left them dead and buried.

Not too up to date on the alt history are you?

Tenebrix and Fairbrix died because I personally exterminated them along with a few of the other early alts that were pieces of shit. In all fairness TBX and FBX were prototype coins and I was asked by the devs to stress them. They were the forerunners of Litecoin.

~BCX~

Everyone loves your work man ... your record speaks for itself!!
sr. member
Activity: 578
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Is baritus still involved in this coin at all? I guess whether or not I decide to reconsider DGC depends on that.

No.
sr. member
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agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Suppose I should pack it all up and move along because some devs of other coins told me to; Sounds like solid advice to me Smiley

you're question has always been what would be 'your' next move, and in reference to me that's exactly what I would do, tis not at all advice on what you should do.

and to quit sounds like sound advice, as you stated you can't change the past, so dgc will always be haunted by its past.

Fair enough. I appreciate your input!

and by a past that got on peoples bad side I wasn't talking just Baritus, a few core members of dgc earlier on took to ddos.......hint didn't make some of us so happy did my defence by building a dgc holding war chest Wink

kelsey, would you be willing to join our IRC channel and hash this out with me personally?


Your crew didn't seem to what to hash it out with me on IRC at the time, tried on several occasions, baritus though not directly involved (as far as I know) chose to stay silent on the matter even after pleading with him to rain in his lap dogs.



What?
hero member
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not at all. he never will be. That is the precise reason why we decided to go the foundation route with the possibility for everyone to contribute equally.

Ahmed
legendary
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Is baritus still involved in this coin at all? I guess whether or not I decide to reconsider DGC depends on that.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Suppose I should pack it all up and move along because some devs of other coins told me to; Sounds like solid advice to me Smiley

you're question has always been what would be 'your' next move, and in reference to me that's exactly what I would do, tis not at all advice on what you should do.

and to quit sounds like sound advice, as you stated you can't change the past, so dgc will always be haunted by its past.

Fair enough. I appreciate your input!

and by a past that got on peoples bad side I wasn't talking just Baritus, a few core members of dgc earlier on took to ddos.......hint didn't make some of us so happy did my defence by building a dgc holding war chest Wink

kelsey, would you be willing to join our IRC channel and hash this out with me personally?


Your crew didn't seem to what to hash it out with me on IRC at the time, tried on several occasions, baritus though not directly involved (as far as I know) chose to stay silent on the matter even after pleading with him to rain in his lap dogs.

legendary
Activity: 2097
Merit: 1070
Would urge you to reconsider your position on DGC. Good team, good guys, making a lot of progress Smiley

What have you guys accomplished in the past ~2 years I have been out? Cliff notes please.  Cheesy

There were some good folks I met in irc, but I had enough drama for one summer by the time cryptoave tanked.

I'm working on a simple blockchain based PKI system which utilises the DGC blockchain.

There is much work to do on a project like this but everything starts small and in my opinion we have plenty of time.
hero member
Activity: 729
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seeing as there's a lot of attention in this thread, supposing DGC eventually grows to be on par with BTC, would anyone be open to increasing the mint rate along with user adoption?

this isn't really integral but it'd be more grease for the wheels; more people join, they get more coins, they're compelled to spend more = healthier, more active economy.

logically it's senseless as coin units are very granular but it's the thought that counts Smiley
hero member
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Mainly adoption on a number of services. A massively more secure blockchain. Client source which is friendlier to the end user. Based off the 0.9.3 BTC source with a 0.10 upgrade coming soon. (Once i've got more free time and xawksaw's finished the DGC services he's working on). We also now are not controlled by a single dev and as like whats been done here. Taken input from the wider community, those who are and are not invested in DGC. such as yourself which allows everyone a fair way to contribute towards DGC and its future without being held back like what baritus did.

Ahmed
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